momto3
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Sat Dec-18-10 07:03 AM
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This would not give the child his/her own inherent immunity to fight the diseases the vaccines are meant to prevent.
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| -In your opinion, generally speaking, are vaccines safe for children? |
ZombieHorde |
Dec-18-10 12:43 AM |
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Other |
KT2000 |
Dec-18-10 01:07 AM |
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The evidence base does not support your claim. |
HuckleB |
Dec-18-10 09:51 AM |
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then don't do that yourself |
KT2000 |
Dec-18-10 12:12 PM |
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Don't do what? |
HuckleB |
Dec-18-10 04:26 PM |
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Generally speaking, it is safe for children to fly in a commercial airliner. |
Speck Tater |
Dec-18-10 01:10 AM |
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Your reversed poll question suggestion is a good one. nt |
ZombieHorde |
Dec-18-10 01:23 AM |
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Even using those as comparisons... |
trotsky |
Dec-18-10 09:13 AM |
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The mother could get the vaccines and nurse the infant |
FreakinDJ |
Dec-18-10 05:23 AM |
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No. |
momto3 |
Dec-18-10 07:03 AM |
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that doesn't provide long lasting immunity |
evirus |
Dec-19-10 12:02 PM |
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Yes - in general. |
momto3 |
Dec-18-10 07:06 AM |
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That's mainly an issue with the flu vaccine. |
HuckleB |
Dec-18-10 11:46 AM |
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Safer than the disease |
stray cat |
Dec-18-10 07:56 AM |
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I am always encouraged by these types of polls. |
trotsky |
Dec-18-10 09:14 AM |
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I'm in agreement |
EvolveOrConvolve |
Dec-18-10 09:19 AM |
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True. |
HuckleB |
Dec-18-10 09:23 AM |
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Again, vaccination rates are not dropping. |
mzmolly |
Dec-18-10 11:06 PM |
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Perhaps a lesson in basic English is in order. |
HuckleB |
Dec-19-10 08:17 AM |
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Perhaps a lesson in common sense is in order? |
mzmolly |
Dec-19-10 01:15 PM |
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In other words, you spent a lot of time on that, and you still couldn't support your claim. |
HuckleB |
Dec-19-10 09:35 PM |
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I fully supported my claim with solid data from the CDC. |
mzmolly |
Dec-19-10 10:24 PM |
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So as long as you stick to one source of information, you think you're covered. |
HuckleB |
Dec-19-10 10:41 PM |
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We're not discussing Africa, we're discussing the US. |
mzmolly |
Dec-19-10 11:39 PM |
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And another red herring. |
HuckleB |
Dec-20-10 09:29 AM |
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You're wrong and I've provided sufficient evidence to this |
mzmolly |
Dec-20-10 01:30 PM |
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And the usual BS. |
HuckleB |
Dec-20-10 02:43 PM |
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No, this is the world YOU promote via your advocacy against |
mzmolly |
Dec-20-10 03:26 PM |
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And Hannah Poling makes an appearance! |
HuckleB |
Dec-20-10 03:35 PM |
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As did Germany when your assertions about US vaccination rates were |
mzmolly |
Dec-20-10 03:40 PM |
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And now you're being dishonest again. |
HuckleB |
Dec-20-10 03:42 PM |
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Bologna. YOU posted a questionable article about Germany when your assertions about a supposed |
mzmolly |
Dec-20-10 03:58 PM |
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As usual, you simply repeat your dishonesty. |
HuckleB |
Dec-20-10 04:01 PM |
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It's not dishonest to call you on your fear based, unsubstantiated antagonism. |
mzmolly |
Dec-20-10 04:06 PM |
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It is dishonest to say I did something I didn't, while saying I didn't do something I had done. |
HuckleB |
Dec-20-10 04:08 PM |
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I've been completely |
mzmolly |
Dec-20-10 04:24 PM |
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And you offer even more dishonesty. |
HuckleB |
Dec-20-10 09:47 PM |
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Or perhaps the people you knee-jerk characterize as anti-vax are not |
mhatrw |
Dec-18-10 01:32 PM |
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Codewords for anti-vax nonsense. |
trotsky |
Dec-18-10 02:55 PM |
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Think of what you are saying. |
mhatrw |
Dec-18-10 07:17 PM |
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No, think of what YOU are saying. |
trotsky |
Dec-19-10 06:10 AM |
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So science and evidence back you that for EVERY vaccine and |
mhatrw |
Dec-20-10 02:24 AM |
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There you go with your strawmen again. |
trotsky |
Dec-20-10 10:14 AM |
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So is it OK to question a couple specific vaccines for a couple specific groups or not?....nt |
mhatrw |
Dec-20-10 10:35 AM |
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If you have any real facts or real concerns, sure. |
trotsky |
Dec-20-10 10:36 AM |
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I have real concerns that Gardasil's benefits are very limited for the US population |
mhatrw |
Dec-20-10 10:56 AM |
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Pap smears detect cancer. Gardasil can prevent it. |
trotsky |
Dec-20-10 11:04 AM |
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LOL. So capitalism is now a conspiracy theory! |
mhatrw |
Dec-20-10 09:11 PM |
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But that's not what you are saying. |
trotsky |
Dec-21-10 06:41 AM |
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Agreed. |
mzmolly |
Dec-18-10 11:11 PM |
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J.B. Handley and the anti-vaccine movement: Gloating over the decline in confidence in vaccines |
HuckleB |
Dec-18-10 09:29 AM |
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Evolutions way of weeding the gullibility gene out of the population. nt |
Speck Tater |
Dec-18-10 10:36 AM |
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Yeah but it'll also take out a bunch of innocent bystanders. |
trotsky |
Dec-18-10 03:32 PM |
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True enough. Unfortunately, mother nature has no morals and is an equal opportunity killer. nt |
Speck Tater |
Dec-18-10 06:59 PM |
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I'll take his quote over Offit's "Formaldehyde does not seem to be a cause of cancer in humans" |
mzmolly |
Dec-18-10 11:19 PM |
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And your usual red herring hits the board. |
HuckleB |
Dec-19-10 09:35 PM |
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As usual your "red herring" claim along with the little "rofl" man |
mzmolly |
Dec-19-10 10:28 PM |
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Sorry to tell the truth. |
HuckleB |
Dec-19-10 10:39 PM |
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You must feel sorry when you tell the truth, given you spend so little |
mzmolly |
Dec-19-10 11:40 PM |
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Now that is one dishonest post. |
HuckleB |
Dec-20-10 09:29 AM |
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Here, have one of these. |
mzmolly |
Dec-20-10 01:43 PM |
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Oh, I did. |
HuckleB |
Dec-20-10 02:44 PM |
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IMHO, generally speaking, vaccines are safe for most children. |
mzmolly |
Dec-18-10 11:04 PM |
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thats not actually useful |
evirus |
Dec-19-10 12:12 PM |
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I didn't menion tailoring the schedule, specifically. I said that I have the ability |
mzmolly |
Dec-19-10 01:18 PM |
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You're not protected |
Dorian Gray |
Dec-19-10 09:29 PM |
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Not protected against what? |
mzmolly |
Dec-19-10 10:21 PM |
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Herd immunity is worthless |
Dorian Gray |
Dec-20-10 10:08 AM |
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You just negated the argument for vaccinating to protect |
mzmolly |
Dec-20-10 01:33 PM |
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So now unvaccinated = sick? |
mhatrw |
Dec-20-10 02:16 AM |
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Of course not... |
Dorian Gray |
Dec-20-10 10:11 AM |
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The flu exists even among the vaccinated. |
mhatrw |
Dec-20-10 10:47 AM |
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Obviously |
Dorian Gray |
Dec-20-10 01:07 PM |
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It is true that the vaccine is not perfect in efficacy. |
HuckleB |
Dec-20-10 01:20 PM |
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I think you should make certain your niece/nehphew are not ill |
mzmolly |
Dec-20-10 01:42 PM |
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Vaccination often provides a false sense of security IMO. |
mzmolly |
Dec-20-10 01:39 PM |
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Vaccine refuseniks are free-riders. |
HuckleB |
Dec-20-10 02:47 PM |
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Why would a "free rider" want to discourage |
mzmolly |
Dec-20-10 04:33 PM |
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In other words, games ARE all you can offer. |
HuckleB |
Dec-21-10 12:29 AM |
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Dec-21-10 08:34 PM |
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Awesome! The ad hominem BS kicks in!!!! |
HuckleB |
Dec-21-10 08:58 PM |
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Myths Fuel Dangerous Decisions to Not Vaccinate Children |
HuckleB |
Dec-20-10 03:55 PM |
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Another unsubstiantiated, questionable article, using partial data and a vaccine patent holder as a |
mzmolly |
Dec-20-10 04:01 PM |
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And another baseless ad hominem attack by a known, dishonest anti-vax proponent. |
HuckleB |
Dec-20-10 04:02 PM |
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The article sources the same data that shows an INCREASE |
mzmolly |
Dec-20-10 04:26 PM |
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Ah, medicaid patients!!!! |
HuckleB |
Dec-20-10 09:48 PM |
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Rates are not down, overall. The CDC isn't wrong, you are. Here's MORE data proving you're FOS. |
mzmolly |
Dec-21-10 08:33 PM |
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"Here's more data!!!!!!!" you say... |
HuckleB |
Dec-21-10 08:57 PM |
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The CBS article refers to the CDC data I provided above, and plucked out a normal |
mzmolly |
Dec-21-10 11:05 PM |
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Yes, you did pluck out selective nonsense to defend your preconceived notions. |
HuckleB |
Dec-21-10 11:16 PM |
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Overall vaccination rates are NOT down, and you are being willfully |
mzmolly |
Dec-21-10 11:43 PM |
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I love it when you keep repeating the same BS. |
HuckleB |
Dec-21-10 11:47 PM |
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I'm merely stating what the CDC data shows. Given you didn't understand previously, I've reiterated. |
mzmolly |
Dec-22-10 12:08 AM |
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As always, you continue with selected quotes and data. |
HuckleB |
Dec-22-10 08:52 AM |
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The quote proves you wrong. The data proves you wrong. |
mzmolly |
Dec-22-10 06:39 PM |
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Not in the real world. |
HuckleB |
Dec-23-10 03:54 AM |
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Much safer than not having them, anyway! |
LeftishBrit |
Dec-22-10 12:29 AM |
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That is putting it gently. -eom- |
HuckleB |
Dec-22-10 08:57 AM |
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That depends upon the specific vaccine and the specific |
mzmolly |
Dec-22-10 06:42 PM |
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The question said 'generally speaking'... |
LeftishBrit |
Dec-23-10 08:09 AM |
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