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Celebration Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 08:34 AM
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9. the pain was appled in the same place for all of them
This was proof of concept that placing needles in important acupuncture points changed brainwaves. Seems like you would like research like this. Oh well.

If you don't like it, design your own experiment and pay for it.
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  -Acupuncture is no placebo and does relieve pain, say scientists Celebration  Nov-29-10 11:31 PM   #0 
  - Just like other  safeinOhio   Nov-29-10 11:35 PM   #1 
  - I don't know WTF you're referring to but acupuncture definitely helped treat my  nosmokes   Nov-30-10 12:19 AM   #2 
     - And Advil is probably not safe to take for a long time.  tabatha   Nov-30-10 12:21 AM   #3 
        - What's there to not understand? these aren't scientific treatments.  evirus   Dec-04-10 11:51 PM   #25 
  - Looks like once again, a study that disproves acupuncture is touted as supporting it.  laconicsax   Nov-30-10 01:32 AM   #4 
  - here--from the article  Celebration   Nov-30-10 07:25 AM   #5 
  - That doesn't dispute what laconicsax said at all.  trotsky   Nov-30-10 07:30 AM   #6 
  - ummm  Celebration   Nov-30-10 07:39 AM   #7 
     - Then you admit the study is flawed.  trotsky   Nov-30-10 08:05 AM   #8 
        - the pain was appled in the same place for all of them  Celebration   Nov-30-10 08:34 AM   #9 
           - It's not a matter of me liking the experiment.  trotsky   Nov-30-10 08:38 AM   #10 
  - Yes  Richard D   Nov-30-10 12:02 PM   #13 
     - And where's the study showing that those points have anything to do with the results?  laconicsax   Nov-30-10 03:36 PM   #15 
  - Indeed.  HuckleB   Nov-30-10 08:48 AM   #11 
     - It's more likely that the columnist who wrote the piece in the OP forgot about it.  laconicsax   Nov-30-10 11:19 AM   #12 
        - Indeed.  HuckleB   Nov-30-10 12:06 PM   #14 
        - It's also interesting to note that the study doesn't appear to be slated for publication.  HuckleB   Nov-30-10 03:53 PM   #16 
           - Probably the former, though I won't rule out the latter.  laconicsax   Nov-30-10 07:12 PM   #17 
  - Reinventing the wheel  Warpy   Dec-03-10 08:05 PM   #18 
  - IIRC, it's been shown that random placement yields the same effects.  laconicsax   Dec-03-10 09:23 PM   #19 
  - It's been shown that mere touch leads to the same effect.  HuckleB   Dec-03-10 10:55 PM   #20 
     - Monetary gain is as genuine a purpose as any for alt-med.  laconicsax   Dec-03-10 11:48 PM   #21 
  - My own experience with acupuncture  housewolf   Dec-04-10 02:02 AM   #22 
     - I'm glad you're unswayed by reality. n/t  laconicsax   Dec-04-10 02:04 AM   #23 
     - Post hoc ergo propter hoc.  trotsky   Dec-04-10 09:20 AM   #24 
     - amazing how all of these "anecdotal experiences"  mzteris   Dec-10-10 07:41 PM   #26 
        - It's even more amazing that actual studies don't verify what these anecdotes claim.  HuckleB   Dec-10-10 08:49 PM   #27 
        - hooray for acupuncture!  BuddhaGirl   Dec-10-10 09:50 PM   #28 
        - Astrology with needles  HuckleB   Dec-10-10 10:18 PM   #29 
        - well - this "fantasy" has had great results - so I think we'll stick with it.  mzteris   Dec-11-10 03:15 PM   #31 
           - Enjoy your placebo effect.  HuckleB   Dec-11-10 05:25 PM   #32 
              - My son IS enjoying being PAIN-FREE!  mzteris   Dec-11-10 06:11 PM   #33 
                 - So you claim every time acupuncture is shown, yet again, to have no basis.  HuckleB   Dec-11-10 06:33 PM   #34 
                    - I absolutely have BASIS -  mzteris   Dec-11-10 07:08 PM   #35 
                       - I understand you have a belief.  HuckleB   Dec-12-10 12:59 PM   #36 
                          - it's an incontrovertible fact, huck.  mzteris   Dec-12-10 01:07 PM   #37 
                             - So you say.  HuckleB   Dec-12-10 10:12 PM   #38 
        - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Dec-10-10 10:32 PM   #30 
 

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