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Sun Oct-17-10 08:49 PM
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| 83. Increase in autism is due to changes in diagnosis, study claims |
| -More Evidence that Vaccines Don't Cause Autism |
Godhumor |
Sep-14-10 09:22 AM |
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K&R... |
SidDithers |
Sep-14-10 09:24 AM |
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True believers will always ignore science and stick with their |
activa8tr |
Sep-14-10 09:29 AM |
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That is evidence that thimerosal doesn't cause autism. |
rucky |
Sep-14-10 09:36 AM |
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The connection between vaccines and autism: they both occur in human children. |
enki23 |
Sep-14-10 09:42 AM |
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Do you know what studies I'm talking about? |
rucky |
Sep-14-10 09:46 AM |
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Link, synopsis? |
cleanhippie |
Sep-14-10 10:37 AM |
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... |
rucky |
Sep-14-10 12:28 PM |
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I read about the Vitamin D link and found it intriguing as well. |
Lyric |
Sep-14-10 10:10 AM |
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Autism as an autoimmune condition could also explain why vaccines can appear to serve as triggers |
KamaAina |
Sep-14-10 11:30 AM |
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Any kid who drops a toy outdoors, picks it up and stuffs it into his mouth |
Warpy |
Sep-14-10 02:31 PM |
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you can`t persuade the true believers with per reviewed research |
madrchsod |
Sep-14-10 09:47 AM |
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Or the Vaccine Court, apparently, when a case like |
pnwmom |
Sep-14-10 10:14 AM |
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You need to read tha case, becasue it isnt what you think it is..... |
cleanhippie |
Sep-14-10 10:16 AM |
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Her mother had the exact same genetic condition and she isn't autistic. |
pnwmom |
Sep-14-10 11:33 AM |
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I meant to use the word exacerbate, sorry. |
cleanhippie |
Sep-14-10 11:48 AM |
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Reality Check. |
HuckleB |
Sep-14-10 11:08 AM |
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Good stuff! |
cleanhippie |
Sep-14-10 11:15 AM |
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I know that the CBS researcher isn't a shill of the pharma co. |
pnwmom |
Sep-14-10 11:34 AM |
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Nice red herring. |
HuckleB |
Sep-14-10 11:35 AM |
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Two Part Criticism of Sharyl Attkisson's Lack of Journalistic Ethics: |
HuckleB |
Sep-15-10 12:00 PM |
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Self delete n/t |
laconicsax |
Sep-14-10 11:29 PM |
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Except in the rare instances when they do. |
pnwmom |
Sep-14-10 10:10 AM |
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But it didn't. |
cleanhippie |
Sep-14-10 10:15 AM |
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The Court, after reviewing all the evidence, ruled |
pnwmom |
Sep-14-10 10:19 AM |
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No, it did not. |
cleanhippie |
Sep-14-10 10:23 AM |
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You're conflating two separate, unrelated rulings! |
pnwmom |
Sep-14-10 11:37 AM |
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No, I am not! The government did not challenge the case an settled instead. |
cleanhippie |
Sep-14-10 11:42 AM |
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You supplied a link but you clearly didn't READ it. |
pnwmom |
Sep-14-10 11:53 AM |
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That is not the same thing as "caused". |
cleanhippie |
Sep-14-10 11:55 AM |
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If the government was requiring any of us Celiacs to drink beer, |
pnwmom |
Sep-14-10 12:04 PM |
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I think you are overlooking the point I am trying to make. |
cleanhippie |
Sep-14-10 12:08 PM |
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Lawyers are not scientists, period n/t |
eridani |
Sep-14-10 07:07 PM |
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If I'm correct, didn't the child receive all 9 vaccines at once |
LynneSin |
Sep-14-10 10:21 AM |
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I think she did. |
cleanhippie |
Sep-14-10 10:29 AM |
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So what? More stress on her immune system, and this is |
pnwmom |
Sep-14-10 11:42 AM |
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But how was the doctor to have known? |
cleanhippie |
Sep-14-10 01:39 PM |
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Unfortunately, most doctors give them in large batches, |
pnwmom |
Sep-14-10 11:39 AM |
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Here's the full story. |
HuckleB |
Sep-14-10 11:09 AM |
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As if the evidence (or lack of it, if you will) was not already mountainous. |
cleanhippie |
Sep-14-10 10:12 AM |
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Because none of the mountainous evidence can prove |
pnwmom |
Sep-14-10 10:27 AM |
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Its not a stretch |
cleanhippie |
Sep-14-10 10:34 AM |
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+1 |
HuckleB |
Sep-14-10 11:09 AM |
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I agree with part of what you're saying. |
pnwmom |
Sep-14-10 11:29 AM |
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So we are in agreement then? |
cleanhippie |
Sep-14-10 11:45 AM |
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Absolutely. |
HuckleB |
Sep-15-10 05:24 PM |
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In the Hannah Poling case, the court did NOT rule there was a connection... |
cleanhippie |
Sep-14-10 10:25 AM |
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Nonsense! That federal court of appeals was ruling on a general |
pnwmom |
Sep-14-10 10:30 AM |
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"Although this case was settled before trial by the government in 2007" |
cleanhippie |
Sep-14-10 10:36 AM |
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The Government's Vaccine Court was the ultimate arbiter. |
pnwmom |
Sep-14-10 10:45 AM |
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I disagree |
cleanhippie |
Sep-14-10 10:47 AM |
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I don't know what you are reading to give you that understanding, |
pnwmom |
Sep-14-10 11:24 AM |
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Here is the actual case. The government did not challenge the case, but settled instead |
cleanhippie |
Sep-14-10 11:42 AM |
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This message was brought to you by big pharma ...have a nice day and be happy. |
L0oniX |
Sep-14-10 11:11 AM |
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Can you support your claim with facts and evidence? |
cleanhippie |
Sep-14-10 11:12 AM |
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Sep-14-10 11:20 AM |
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So that would be a no, you just decided to post unfounded inflammatory rhetoric? |
cleanhippie |
Sep-14-10 11:46 AM |
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Sep-14-10 07:44 PM |
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BIG PHARMA! |
HuckleB |
Sep-14-10 11:28 AM |
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How come DUers are so cautious about corporations in every other sphere |
pnwmom |
Sep-14-10 11:44 AM |
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There is a difference between caution, and choosing to pretend something is pure evil. |
HuckleB |
Sep-14-10 11:45 AM |
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I don't pretend they are pure evil, and I'm not against |
pnwmom |
Sep-14-10 11:58 AM |
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I'm sorry. |
HuckleB |
Sep-14-10 12:04 PM |
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When was the last time you ever saw big pharma give away anything for the benefit of mankind? |
L0oniX |
Sep-14-10 07:49 PM |
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Nice red herring. |
HuckleB |
Sep-14-10 10:02 PM |
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Sep-14-10 10:09 PM |
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And on to another classic ad hominem attack. |
HuckleB |
Sep-14-10 10:59 PM |
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Yea ...I see that too. I'm like ..since when does pharma care about anything but their bottom line. |
L0oniX |
Sep-14-10 07:42 PM |
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Recommend |
xchrom |
Sep-14-10 11:29 AM |
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Duh |
PBS Poll-435 |
Sep-14-10 11:47 AM |
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Whoops! Can't have anyone in GD knowing vaccines are safe! |
HuckleB |
Sep-14-10 12:14 PM |
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Naw, it's just that the anti-vaxers always turn these into flamefests... |
trotsky |
Sep-14-10 12:36 PM |
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Anti-Vaxer's and Curebee's |
Throckmorton |
Sep-14-10 01:48 PM |
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I am fucking sick of the Curebies. I AM NOT BROKEN. |
Odin2005 |
Sep-14-10 05:30 PM |
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Amen |
Throckmorton |
Sep-15-10 06:28 AM |
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ScienceBasedMedicine.org article about this issue |
alp227 |
Sep-14-10 01:07 PM |
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Which might be pertinent if anyone said that vaccines are THE cause of autism. |
mzmolly |
Sep-15-10 12:07 PM |
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Welcome back! How was that break you took? |
laconicsax |
Sep-15-10 01:19 PM |
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It was short but |
mzmolly |
Sep-15-10 01:21 PM |
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And yet the fiction spreading anti-vaccinationists have convinced many otherwise. |
HuckleB |
Sep-15-10 01:13 PM |
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Making Money Promoting Anti-Vaccine Myths |
HuckleB |
Sep-20-10 05:51 PM |
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Study: Social influence playing role in surging autism diagnoses |
HuckleB |
Oct-17-10 08:47 PM |
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New study – “90% diagnostic accuracy” |
HuckleB |
Oct-17-10 08:48 PM |
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Increase in autism is due to changes in diagnosis, study claims |
HuckleB |
Oct-17-10 08:49 PM |
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