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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-10 10:27 AM
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17. Because none of the mountainous evidence can prove
that autism has not been caused by vaccines in specific cases, especially such as Hannah Poling, with her genetic susceptibility.

The research does accept that, in rare cases, vaccines may cause seizures or even life-threatening encephalitis. (And that a few healthy babies, like my sister, can develop encephalitis and die hours after receiving vaccines.)

Why is it such a stretch to accept that that kind of damage to an infant brain could lead to autism symptoms?
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  -More Evidence that Vaccines Don't Cause Autism Godhumor  Sep-14-10 09:22 AM   #0 
  - K&R...  SidDithers   Sep-14-10 09:24 AM   #1 
  - True believers will always ignore science and stick with their  activa8tr   Sep-14-10 09:29 AM   #2 
  - That is evidence that thimerosal doesn't cause autism.  rucky   Sep-14-10 09:36 AM   #3 
  - The connection between vaccines and autism: they both occur in human children.  enki23   Sep-14-10 09:42 AM   #4 
  - Do you know what studies I'm talking about?  rucky   Sep-14-10 09:46 AM   #5 
     - Link, synopsis?  cleanhippie   Sep-14-10 10:37 AM   #22 
        - ...  rucky   Sep-14-10 12:28 PM   #58 
  - I read about the Vitamin D link and found it intriguing as well.  Lyric   Sep-14-10 10:10 AM   #8 
     - Autism as an autoimmune condition could also explain why vaccines can appear to serve as triggers  KamaAina   Sep-14-10 11:30 AM   #36 
        - Any kid who drops a toy outdoors, picks it up and stuffs it into his mouth  Warpy   Sep-14-10 02:31 PM   #63 
  - you can`t persuade the true believers with per reviewed research  madrchsod   Sep-14-10 09:47 AM   #6 
  - Or the Vaccine Court, apparently, when a case like  pnwmom   Sep-14-10 10:14 AM   #10 
     - You need to read tha case, becasue it isnt what you think it is.....  cleanhippie   Sep-14-10 10:16 AM   #12 
     - Her mother had the exact same genetic condition and she isn't autistic.  pnwmom   Sep-14-10 11:33 AM   #37 
        - I meant to use the word exacerbate, sorry.  cleanhippie   Sep-14-10 11:48 AM   #50 
     - Reality Check.  HuckleB   Sep-14-10 11:08 AM   #25 
     - Good stuff!  cleanhippie   Sep-14-10 11:15 AM   #30 
     - I know that the CBS researcher isn't a shill of the pharma co.  pnwmom   Sep-14-10 11:34 AM   #38 
        - Nice red herring.  HuckleB   Sep-14-10 11:35 AM   #39 
        - Two Part Criticism of Sharyl Attkisson's Lack of Journalistic Ethics:  HuckleB   Sep-15-10 12:00 PM   #74 
     - Self delete n/t  laconicsax   Sep-14-10 11:29 PM   #72 
  - Except in the rare instances when they do.  pnwmom   Sep-14-10 10:10 AM   #7 
  - But it didn't.  cleanhippie   Sep-14-10 10:15 AM   #11 
  - The Court, after reviewing all the evidence, ruled  pnwmom   Sep-14-10 10:19 AM   #13 
  - No, it did not.  cleanhippie   Sep-14-10 10:23 AM   #15 
  - You're conflating two separate, unrelated rulings!  pnwmom   Sep-14-10 11:37 AM   #40 
     - No, I am not! The government did not challenge the case an settled instead.  cleanhippie   Sep-14-10 11:42 AM   #43 
        - You supplied a link but you clearly didn't READ it.  pnwmom   Sep-14-10 11:53 AM   #51 
           - That is not the same thing as "caused".  cleanhippie   Sep-14-10 11:55 AM   #52 
              - If the government was requiring any of us Celiacs to drink beer,  pnwmom   Sep-14-10 12:04 PM   #55 
                 - I think you are overlooking the point I am trying to make.  cleanhippie   Sep-14-10 12:08 PM   #56 
  - Lawyers are not scientists, period n/t  eridani   Sep-14-10 07:07 PM   #65 
  - If I'm correct, didn't the child receive all 9 vaccines at once  LynneSin   Sep-14-10 10:21 AM   #14 
     - I think she did.  cleanhippie   Sep-14-10 10:29 AM   #18 
     - So what? More stress on her immune system, and this is  pnwmom   Sep-14-10 11:42 AM   #44 
        - But how was the doctor to have known?  cleanhippie   Sep-14-10 01:39 PM   #61 
     - Unfortunately, most doctors give them in large batches,  pnwmom   Sep-14-10 11:39 AM   #41 
  - Here's the full story.  HuckleB   Sep-14-10 11:09 AM   #26 
  - As if the evidence (or lack of it, if you will) was not already mountainous.  cleanhippie   Sep-14-10 10:12 AM   #9 
  - Because none of the mountainous evidence can prove  pnwmom   Sep-14-10 10:27 AM   #17 
  - Its not a stretch  cleanhippie   Sep-14-10 10:34 AM   #20 
     - +1  HuckleB   Sep-14-10 11:09 AM   #27 
     - I agree with part of what you're saying.  pnwmom   Sep-14-10 11:29 AM   #34 
        - So we are in agreement then?  cleanhippie   Sep-14-10 11:45 AM   #47 
  - Absolutely.  HuckleB   Sep-15-10 05:24 PM   #79 
  - In the Hannah Poling case, the court did NOT rule there was a connection...  cleanhippie   Sep-14-10 10:25 AM   #16 
  - Nonsense! That federal court of appeals was ruling on a general  pnwmom   Sep-14-10 10:30 AM   #19 
     - "Although this case was settled before trial by the government in 2007"  cleanhippie   Sep-14-10 10:36 AM   #21 
        - The Government's Vaccine Court was the ultimate arbiter.  pnwmom   Sep-14-10 10:45 AM   #23 
           - I disagree  cleanhippie   Sep-14-10 10:47 AM   #24 
              - I don't know what you are reading to give you that understanding,  pnwmom   Sep-14-10 11:24 AM   #32 
                 - Here is the actual case. The government did not challenge the case, but settled instead  cleanhippie   Sep-14-10 11:42 AM   #42 
  - This message was brought to you by big pharma ...have a nice day and be happy.  L0oniX   Sep-14-10 11:11 AM   #28 
  - Can you support your claim with facts and evidence?  cleanhippie   Sep-14-10 11:12 AM   #29 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-14-10 11:20 AM   #31 
     - So that would be a no, you just decided to post unfounded inflammatory rhetoric?  cleanhippie   Sep-14-10 11:46 AM   #48 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-14-10 07:44 PM   #67 
  - BIG PHARMA!  HuckleB   Sep-14-10 11:28 AM   #33 
     - How come DUers are so cautious about corporations in every other sphere  pnwmom   Sep-14-10 11:44 AM   #45 
        - There is a difference between caution, and choosing to pretend something is pure evil.  HuckleB   Sep-14-10 11:45 AM   #46 
        - I don't pretend they are pure evil, and I'm not against  pnwmom   Sep-14-10 11:58 AM   #53 
        - I'm sorry.  HuckleB   Sep-14-10 12:04 PM   #54 
        - When was the last time you ever saw big pharma give away anything for the benefit of mankind?  L0oniX   Sep-14-10 07:49 PM   #68 
           - Nice red herring.  HuckleB   Sep-14-10 10:02 PM   #69 
              - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-14-10 10:09 PM   #70 
                 - And on to another classic ad hominem attack.  HuckleB   Sep-14-10 10:59 PM   #71 
        - Yea ...I see that too. I'm like ..since when does pharma care about anything but their bottom line.  L0oniX   Sep-14-10 07:42 PM   #66 
  - Recommend  xchrom   Sep-14-10 11:29 AM   #35 
  - Duh  PBS Poll-435   Sep-14-10 11:47 AM   #49 
  - Whoops! Can't have anyone in GD knowing vaccines are safe!  HuckleB   Sep-14-10 12:14 PM   #57 
  - Naw, it's just that the anti-vaxers always turn these into flamefests...  trotsky   Sep-14-10 12:36 PM   #59 
     - Anti-Vaxer's and Curebee's  Throckmorton   Sep-14-10 01:48 PM   #62 
        - I am fucking sick of the Curebies. I AM NOT BROKEN.  Odin2005   Sep-14-10 05:30 PM   #64 
           - Amen  Throckmorton   Sep-15-10 06:28 AM   #73 
  - ScienceBasedMedicine.org article about this issue  alp227   Sep-14-10 01:07 PM   #60 
  - Which might be pertinent if anyone said that vaccines are THE cause of autism.  mzmolly   Sep-15-10 12:07 PM   #75 
  - Welcome back! How was that break you took?  laconicsax   Sep-15-10 01:19 PM   #77 
     - It was short but  mzmolly   Sep-15-10 01:21 PM   #78 
  - And yet the fiction spreading anti-vaccinationists have convinced many otherwise.  HuckleB   Sep-15-10 01:13 PM   #76 
  - Making Money Promoting Anti-Vaccine Myths  HuckleB   Sep-20-10 05:51 PM   #80 
  - Study: Social influence playing role in surging autism diagnoses  HuckleB   Oct-17-10 08:47 PM   #81 
  - New study – “90% diagnostic accuracy”  HuckleB   Oct-17-10 08:48 PM   #82 
  - Increase in autism is due to changes in diagnosis, study claims  HuckleB   Oct-17-10 08:49 PM   #83 
 

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