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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 08:36 PM
Response to Reply #40
44. Really?
Edited on Tue Jan-12-10 08:37 PM by HuckleB
So where's the evidence base that proves homeopathy shouldn't be sent to the dustbin of snake oil treatments? And where's the evidence for the great majority of so called "alternative medicine?"

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  -The terrible harm that alternative medicine can do HuckleB  Jan-12-10 07:57 PM   #0 
  - No FDA Oversight; No requirement that there is a real ingredient as stated or just dirt  stray cat   Jan-12-10 07:58 PM   #1 
  - And yet the taxpayers are on the hook to "study" the water.  HuckleB   Jan-12-10 08:08 PM   #6 
     - not for homeopathic remedies  northzax   Jan-12-10 08:21 PM   #26 
        - Spend some time here...  HuckleB   Jan-12-10 08:25 PM   #30 
        - they walk a very fine line  northzax   Jan-12-10 08:32 PM   #39 
           - The point is that money is going to "study" treatments that have very little evidence of benefit.  HuckleB   Jan-12-10 08:35 PM   #43 
              - Oh, I agree.  northzax   Jan-12-10 10:30 PM   #105 
                 - Show me one homeopathic treatment that is not useless as anything but a placebo.  HuckleB   Jan-12-10 11:50 PM   #117 
                    - All of them are remarkably useful for curing a specific condition.  JoeyT   Jan-13-10 11:50 AM   #145 
                       - +1  HuckleB   Jan-13-10 02:50 PM   #175 
        - What can Acupuncture Treat?  HuckleB   Jan-12-10 09:32 PM   #75 
           - Well, they can say 'accupuncture has been shown to treat...'  northzax   Jan-12-10 10:36 PM   #107 
           - No MD would get away with that.  HuckleB   Jan-12-10 11:50 PM   #118 
           - Yep. That is a suspect list.  laughingliberal   Jan-13-10 01:40 AM   #125 
           - exactly  Celebration   Jan-13-10 08:50 AM   #128 
              - Hardly.  HuckleB   Jan-13-10 09:52 AM   #135 
              - +1000  BuddhaGirl   Jan-13-10 09:12 PM   #234 
                 - .  HuckleB   Jan-13-10 09:20 PM   #235 
                    - thanks!  BuddhaGirl   Jan-13-10 09:56 PM   #236 
                       - I'm glad you can convince yourself of that.  HuckleB   Jan-13-10 10:05 PM   #237 
                          - oh my  BuddhaGirl   Jan-13-10 10:39 PM   #238 
                             - $2.5 billion spent, no alternative cures found  HuckleB   Jan-13-10 11:23 PM   #239 
                                - doesn't matter much to me  BuddhaGirl   Jan-14-10 09:50 AM   #249 
                                   - You spend money on placebos.  HuckleB   Jan-14-10 07:57 PM   #252 
                                   - I'd recommend that you not over dramatize  BuddhaGirl   Jan-14-10 10:27 PM   #253 
                                      - A spoonful of sugar is cheaper.  HuckleB   Jan-15-10 10:45 AM   #254 
                                   - Ha! Post 125 blown out of the water  Confusious   Jan-18-10 01:27 AM   #258 
           - Have you ever looked into answering your own questions  omega minimo   Jan-13-10 01:49 PM   #154 
              - Yes.  HuckleB   Jan-13-10 03:34 PM   #193 
  - K&R  slackmaster   Jan-12-10 07:58 PM   #2 
  - Defending everthing "alternative" is as bad as writing off everything "alternative"  Juche   Jan-12-10 08:03 PM   #4 
     - Yes, you're absolutely right about that  slackmaster   Jan-12-10 08:08 PM   #7 
  - Your homeopathic remedy is almost ready!  FLAprogressive   Jan-12-10 08:00 PM   #3 
  - I want that poster!  HuckleB   Jan-12-10 09:45 PM   #93 
  - I normally welcome the anti-science unrec community of DU.  HuckleB   Jan-12-10 08:03 PM   #5 
  - Have you seen the huge numbers of hospital and medical deaths  Better Today   Jan-12-10 08:10 PM   #10 
  - I'm surprised how long it took for this red herring to pop up.  HuckleB   Jan-12-10 08:11 PM   #13 
  - For some issues, alternative medicine works.  Better Today   Jan-12-10 08:23 PM   #28 
     - Placebos are great. (No, I'm not calling marijuana a placebo.)  HuckleB   Jan-12-10 08:30 PM   #37 
     - Everything I used is proven to work as well, maybe not as quickly  Better Today   Jan-12-10 08:39 PM   #45 
        - Please offer us links to the peer-reviewed, double blind trials that prove your claims.  HuckleB   Jan-12-10 08:41 PM   #46 
        - You seem to think that there's incentive in giving any credence  Better Today   Jan-12-10 08:50 PM   #52 
           - Diagnosis is an issue.  HuckleB   Jan-12-10 08:53 PM   #55 
           - I did answer your request. Choose to ignore it if you want. In the end  Better Today   Jan-12-10 09:00 PM   #57 
           - No, you didn't answer it.  HuckleB   Jan-12-10 09:05 PM   #59 
              - Then repeat it, all I see is a demand for peer reviewed articles,  Better Today   Jan-12-10 09:35 PM   #78 
                 - In other words, you can't answer it.  HuckleB   Jan-12-10 09:37 PM   #82 
                    - you are making a claim here  Celebration   Jan-13-10 08:56 AM   #129 
                       - In science based medicine, you prove that the treatment works better than placebo.  HuckleB   Jan-13-10 09:53 AM   #136 
                          - But that is different  Celebration   Jan-13-10 10:39 AM   #140 
                          - Why yes, yes it is. Thank you for pointing that out. As well as "that claim makes no sense at all"  omega minimo   Jan-13-10 02:01 PM   #157 
                          - Nice spin.  HuckleB   Jan-13-10 02:38 PM   #162 
                             - Do you have proof of that?  Celebration   Jan-13-10 02:51 PM   #177 
                                - Are you saying NCCAM hasn't done any studies?  HuckleB   Jan-13-10 02:54 PM   #181 
                                - what is the evidence  Celebration   Jan-13-10 03:17 PM   #186 
                                - So no response other than that?  HuckleB   Jan-13-10 03:24 PM   #189 
                                - First you talk about NCCAM  Celebration   Jan-13-10 03:49 PM   #200 
                                - "and others"  HuckleB   Jan-13-10 03:51 PM   #201 
                                - Just gotta say.  Celebration   Jan-13-10 05:28 PM   #226 
                          - These are just repetitive talking points.  omega minimo   Jan-13-10 02:00 PM   #156 
                             - You proved that you were just arguing against a poster of your own imagination.  HuckleB   Jan-13-10 02:39 PM   #163 
                                - .  omega minimo   Jan-13-10 02:46 PM   #168 
                                   - Must be what you see in your mirror.  HuckleB   Jan-13-10 02:48 PM   #171 
           - "your disrespect based on medicals not doing peer reviews is just plain naive."  omega minimo   Jan-13-10 01:46 PM   #153 
              - No, I'm not.  HuckleB   Jan-13-10 02:49 PM   #173 
           - If you're talking about lemon juice and yogurt  JoeyT   Jan-13-10 11:59 AM   #146 
              - The people who know about alternative medicine  omega minimo   Jan-13-10 01:57 PM   #155 
                 - So you're saying that the placebo effect doesn't exist.  HuckleB   Jan-13-10 02:50 PM   #174 
                 - Another quite common tactic from the alt med crowd.  JoeyT   Jan-13-10 08:32 PM   #233 
                 - Good post.  HuckleB   Jan-13-10 11:53 PM   #241 
                 - I made no such claim. But you did.  omega minimo   Jan-14-10 01:23 AM   #242 
                    - Wow! That is some powerful denial you've got there.  HuckleB   Jan-14-10 05:35 AM   #246 
                    - You don't like what you hear  Confusious   Jan-18-10 01:45 AM   #260 
                 - I prevented a nuclear war  Confusious   Jan-18-10 01:36 AM   #259 
        - When Did Diet And Exercise Become Alternative Medicine?  HuckleB   Jan-15-10 07:42 PM   #255 
     - Wait a minute, you haven't seen a doctor since 1990, but you've diagnosed and are treating yourself  LeftyMom   Jan-13-10 12:44 AM   #123 
  - Have you ever looked at the number of cures  Warpy   Jan-12-10 08:12 PM   #14 
     - +1  HuckleB   Jan-12-10 08:12 PM   #15 
     - No, because that number is entirely unprovable, once a choice  Better Today   Jan-12-10 08:52 PM   #53 
  - All I have to say to the alt med purists who unrec this thread is  Warpy   Jan-12-10 08:10 PM   #12 
  - Shouldn't it be called "placebo medicine," if that's the case?  HuckleB   Jan-12-10 11:56 PM   #120 
  - I helped fix that  ProgressiveProfessor   Jan-12-10 09:00 PM   # 
     - Thanks. And exactly. -eom-  HuckleB   Jan-12-10 09:08 PM   #60 
  - Neither traditional nor alternative medicine is 100% of the answer.  MercutioATC   Jan-12-10 08:09 PM   #8 
  - Unfortunately, too much on the alternative side is being pushed with no evidence base.  HuckleB   Jan-12-10 08:10 PM   #11 
  - That's a result of greed, not a failure of alternative medicine.  MercutioATC   Jan-12-10 08:19 PM   #24 
  - Exactly. Trusting a homeopath without doing your own research  Better Today   Jan-12-10 08:26 PM   #32 
  - That will be some short research.  JoeyT   Jan-13-10 12:03 PM   #147 
     - An overdose on homeopathic remedies is typically called "drowning."  laconicsax   Jan-13-10 06:23 PM   #230 
  - Ah, but if there was more of an evidence base to alternative medicine....  HuckleB   Jan-12-10 08:31 PM   #38 
  - As opposed to modern medicine? (which is the 3rd leading cause of death in the US)  TalkingDog   Jan-13-10 11:35 AM   #143 
     - And yet another poster offers up the usual red herring.  HuckleB   Jan-13-10 11:43 AM   #144 
        - Highly regarded, well verified studies by respected researchers are BS?  TalkingDog   Jan-13-10 02:06 PM   #160 
           - Ever heard of the term context?  HuckleB   Jan-13-10 02:40 PM   #164 
           - You have some brass ones yourself  Confusious   Jan-18-10 01:55 AM   #261 
  - How DARE you  omega minimo   Jan-12-10 08:14 PM   #18 
  - The actual balance comes via the evidence base.  HuckleB   Jan-12-10 08:16 PM   #19 
     - in an online discussion? in the attitude of the participants? in the perspective of the researchers?  omega minimo   Jan-12-10 08:18 PM   #23 
        - And why is that?  HuckleB   Jan-12-10 08:23 PM   #27 
           - Those stories are extreme and involve "quacks" in Africa.  omega minimo   Jan-12-10 08:29 PM   #34 
              - Clinics in Britain pushing homeopathic prevention for Malaria are in Africa?  HuckleB   Jan-12-10 08:33 PM   #41 
  - So what is the value of snake oil these days?  HiFructosePronSyrup   Jan-12-10 08:29 PM   #35 
  - This is flame bait and belongs in the Health forum, anyway. nt  laughingliberal   Jan-12-10 08:09 PM   #9 
  - Funny that you haven't posted the same for the GD thread.  HuckleB   Jan-12-10 08:13 PM   #16 
  - It's just another Straight Story post..... viewed with all the alarm of all his other odd topcis  omega minimo   Jan-12-10 08:16 PM   #20 
  - Ah, yes. Got it. I think.  HuckleB   Jan-12-10 08:18 PM   #22 
  - The first seems to have tanked on its own and I did not see it  laughingliberal   Jan-12-10 08:26 PM   #31 
     - How is it not flame bait?  HuckleB   Jan-12-10 08:42 PM   #47 
        - I believe it illustrates the effect our wars are having on our vets.  laughingliberal   Jan-12-10 09:34 PM   #77 
           - Thank you for using a justification that fits just as well here.  HuckleB   Jan-12-10 09:36 PM   #79 
              - Probably a drop in the bucket compared to what we're spending to destroy the lives of those who  laughingliberal   Jan-12-10 09:39 PM   #84 
                 - That doesn't mean we should ignore the matter.  HuckleB   Jan-12-10 09:40 PM   #86 
                    - I object to the broad brush with which you seem to paint anything  laughingliberal   Jan-12-10 10:27 PM   #104 
                       - You object to science.  HuckleB   Jan-12-10 11:45 PM   #111 
                          - That would be a hard case to make. I've worked at 2 prominent research hospitals and  laughingliberal   Jan-13-10 12:31 AM   #122 
                             - Where you've worked doesn't mean a thing.  HuckleB   Jan-13-10 09:56 AM   #137 
                                - I understand science very well. Scientific discovery is made by studying not by dismissing  laughingliberal   Jan-13-10 10:33 AM   #139 
                                   - And, again, you offer dishonest BS.  HuckleB   Jan-13-10 11:00 AM   #142 
                                      - I seem to recall this being your debate style in other postings of yours  laughingliberal   Jan-13-10 12:29 PM   #149 
                                         - Well put.  omega minimo   Jan-13-10 02:03 PM   #158 
                                         - Oh, the irony!  HuckleB   Jan-13-10 02:42 PM   #166 
                                            - Substantive! nt  laughingliberal   Jan-13-10 03:14 PM   #184 
                                               - More irony!  HuckleB   Jan-13-10 03:16 PM   #185 
                                               - It appears irony is your word for the day. nt  laughingliberal   Jan-13-10 03:21 PM   #188 
                                               - It fits!  HuckleB   Jan-13-10 03:25 PM   #190 
                                               - Another it is so because I said it is so response.  laughingliberal   Jan-13-10 03:30 PM   #192 
                                               - Exactly!  HuckleB   Jan-13-10 03:35 PM   #194 
                                               - We have those little smilies on our computers, too  laughingliberal   Jan-13-10 03:36 PM   #195 
                                               - I'm very happy for you!  HuckleB   Jan-13-10 03:38 PM   #196 
                                         - What's funny is that you accuse me of doing what you are doing.  HuckleB   Jan-13-10 02:42 PM   #165 
                                            - I haven't attacked you, personally, at all  laughingliberal   Jan-13-10 03:20 PM   #187 
                                               - Yes, you have.  HuckleB   Jan-13-10 03:26 PM   #191 
                                                  - Have not  laughingliberal   Jan-13-10 03:44 PM   #198 
                                                  - I began to put in the laughing icon when it became clear that you would never discuss with honesty.  HuckleB   Jan-13-10 03:53 PM   #202 
                                                  - I have only questioned your debate style and your habit of painting all medicine  laughingliberal   Jan-13-10 04:03 PM   #206 
                                                  - Yes, you have repeated that again and again.  HuckleB   Jan-13-10 04:06 PM   #207 
                                                  - Again, just because you call a post nonsense (or dishonest or whatever else) does not make it so nt  laughingliberal   Jan-13-10 04:14 PM   #209 
                                                  - Since you have done nothing to provide any evidence for any claim that you've made...  HuckleB   Jan-13-10 04:17 PM   #211 
                                                  - I think I'm just going to say that my posts and yours are here for all who care to read them and I  laughingliberal   Jan-13-10 04:23 PM   #215 
                                                  - That's nice.  HuckleB   Jan-13-10 04:26 PM   #218 
  - flame bait, indeed  BuddhaGirl   Jan-12-10 09:00 PM   #56 
  - Science is not flame bait, just because that's a convenient excuse to ignore it.  HuckleB   Jan-12-10 09:05 PM   #58 
     - flame away  G_j   Jan-12-10 09:18 PM   #65 
        - Oh, the irony.  HuckleB   Jan-12-10 09:21 PM   #66 
  - sure is nt  G_j   Jan-12-10 09:17 PM   #64 
  - Absolutely correct.  Better Today   Jan-12-10 09:37 PM   #81 
  - A personal testimony. One time I injured my back and started taking  morningglory   Jan-12-10 08:14 PM   #17 
  - It wouldn't be surprising, if you were taking Ibuprofen that frequently.  HuckleB   Jan-12-10 08:17 PM   #21 
  - There are quacks in every profession. These stories are extreme. Doesn't condemn all of  omega minimo   Jan-12-10 08:20 PM   #25 
  - The OP linked to Sense About Science...  HuckleB   Jan-12-10 08:27 PM   #33 
     - "Sans an evidence base" is a false statement  omega minimo   Jan-12-10 08:32 PM   #40 
        - Really?  HuckleB   Jan-12-10 08:36 PM   #44 
        - Bingo! You've hit at the heart of it. This is a once a week thing with this OP.  Better Today   Jan-12-10 09:41 PM   #88 
           - So crap personal attacks are your only response?  HuckleB   Jan-12-10 09:43 PM   #89 
           - I have not attacked you in the least. Nice try though. I have  Better Today   Jan-12-10 09:52 PM   #97 
              - You started with a BS red herring,  HuckleB   Jan-12-10 09:54 PM   #98 
                 - A red herring is a subjective term and certainly not a personal attack,  Better Today   Jan-12-10 09:59 PM   #102 
                 - I said you started with a red herring.  HuckleB   Jan-12-10 11:44 PM   #110 
                 - Bullshit  omega minimo   Jan-12-10 11:09 PM   #108 
                    - You are the one using the same old crap!  HuckleB   Jan-12-10 11:49 PM   #114 
           - it can't even be called  omega minimo   Jan-12-10 11:10 PM   #109 
              - Your posts certainly offer no thought.  HuckleB   Jan-12-10 11:50 PM   #116 
                 - Your game of "If I say it it's so" is as transparent as every other time someone tries it.  omega minimo   Jan-13-10 12:44 AM   #124 
                    - You keep telling yourself that.  HuckleB   Jan-13-10 09:51 AM   #134 
                       - Another false accusation.  omega minimo   Jan-13-10 01:41 PM   #152 
                          - Scienciness is what you're defending!  HuckleB   Jan-13-10 02:43 PM   #167 
                             - Another false statement  omega minimo   Jan-13-10 02:47 PM   #169 
                                - Ah, the old "shill" routine.  HuckleB   Jan-13-10 02:51 PM   #176 
                                   - You choose how you present yourself  omega minimo   Jan-13-10 02:53 PM   #179 
                                      - You do, too!  HuckleB   Jan-13-10 02:55 PM   #182 
                                         - You have chosen  omega minimo   Jan-14-10 01:24 AM   #243 
                                            - That is your excuse for you own behavior.  HuckleB   Jan-14-10 05:05 AM   #244 
                                               - sad  omega minimo   Jan-14-10 11:59 AM   #250 
                                                  - That's hilarious.  HuckleB   Jan-14-10 07:55 PM   #251 
  - Now you know how nutso the unrec squad can be. n/t  LoZoccolo   Jan-12-10 08:24 PM   #29 
  - Unfortunately, I do.  HuckleB   Jan-12-10 08:43 PM   #48 
  - Woo - woo kills. If educated adults who should know better choose hocus pocus bullshit  Maru Kitteh   Jan-12-10 08:30 PM   #36 
  - Absurd  omega minimo   Jan-12-10 08:33 PM   #42 
  - That's more correct than you might have known.  HuckleB   Jan-12-10 08:48 PM   #51 
  - acupuncture cured my severe Carpal tunnel...no problems in 6 years  sam sarrha   Jan-12-10 08:43 PM   #49 
  - Thanks for the anecdote.  HuckleB   Jan-12-10 08:47 PM   #50 
  - It cured my frozen shoulder.  OmmmSweetOmmm   Jan-12-10 09:23 PM   #67 
  - Tried homeopathy: it doesn't work  Mimosa   Jan-12-10 08:53 PM   #54 
  - All I can say to your "peer reviewed science"..  sendero   Jan-12-10 09:09 PM   #61 
  - Your red herring does not justify snake oil.  HuckleB   Jan-12-10 09:13 PM   #63 
  - It's not .  sendero   Jan-12-10 09:26 PM   #72 
  - You didn't read the OP, did you?  HuckleB   Jan-12-10 09:31 PM   #74 
     - You are clearly suffering from cranial rectal inversion..  sendero   Jan-12-10 09:37 PM   #80 
        - And you offer more red herring nonsense.  HuckleB   Jan-12-10 09:38 PM   #83 
        - Once boiled, hair-clippings from martyrs & saints cures gallstones. I'll send you a batch for $29.99  apocalypsehow   Jan-12-10 09:44 PM   #92 
        - Throw in some homeopathic teething gel, and I'm all over it!  HuckleB   Jan-12-10 09:56 PM   #100 
        - If we listened to you  Confusious   Jan-18-10 02:18 AM   #263 
  - Your red herring  Celebration   Jan-13-10 09:06 AM   #132 
     - Keep posting a whole lot of nothing.  HuckleB   Jan-13-10 09:57 AM   #138 
  - Well played. Granted if homeopathy doesn't work, one may have  Better Today   Jan-12-10 09:46 PM   #94 
  - It's actually the usual red herring tossed out by the anti-science crowd at DU.  HuckleB   Jan-12-10 09:49 PM   #95 
     - I'm so flattered that you are enamored enough to follow my every post,  Better Today   Jan-12-10 09:56 PM   #99 
        - You've discredited yourself.  HuckleB   Jan-12-10 09:56 PM   #101 
           - Again, entirely a subjective perspective that doesn't change the facts.  Better Today   Jan-12-10 10:05 PM   #103 
              - You don't care about facts.  HuckleB   Jan-12-10 11:47 PM   #112 
  - Nothing is ALL alternative medicine does  Confusious   Jan-18-10 02:15 AM   #262 
  - Hey, placebos can work great.  bemildred   Jan-12-10 09:12 PM   #62 
  - MDs address the ethics of placebos, while homeopaths and others ignore such matters.  HuckleB   Jan-12-10 09:24 PM   #69 
     - I had a homeopathic MD tell me  Celebration   Jan-13-10 09:05 AM   #131 
        - I'm sure you did.  HuckleB   Jan-13-10 10:50 AM   #141 
  - I had a friend with breast cancer  hollowdweller   Jan-12-10 09:24 PM   #68 
  - That is one heart-wrenching story.  HuckleB   Jan-12-10 09:24 PM   #71 
  - So did I. She found out she had breast cancer and elected to "treat" it with alternative therapies  Hekate   Jan-12-10 09:43 PM   #90 
  - Very sad story...  MineralMan   Jan-13-10 08:49 AM   #127 
  - i don't know huckle, it's truly a tragedy  pitohui   Jan-12-10 09:24 PM   #70 
  - I have no general disagreement with your post.  HuckleB   Jan-12-10 09:28 PM   #73 
  - Kick, Rec. n/t.  apocalypsehow   Jan-12-10 09:33 PM   #76 
  - Most medicine can do harm.  mzmolly   Jan-12-10 09:39 PM   #85 
  - Indeed.  HuckleB   Jan-12-10 09:40 PM   #87 
  - I agree. Consistent, equal regulation.  mzmolly   Jan-12-10 09:49 PM   #96 
  - That's a good point too.  bemildred   Jan-12-10 09:43 PM   #91 
  - http://whatstheharm.net/  woo me with science   Jan-12-10 10:33 PM   #106 
  - Great link!  HuckleB   Jan-12-10 11:48 PM   #113 
  - Foul!  Toucano   Jan-12-10 11:49 PM   #115 
  - The anti-science crowd goes to the alert button so they can kill discussion.  HuckleB   Jan-12-10 11:52 PM   #119 
     - Aside from the fact the OP is blatant flamebait  omega minimo   Jan-13-10 02:06 PM   #159 
        - Prove it.  HuckleB   Jan-13-10 02:37 PM   #161 
           - You've shown it. You're done  omega minimo   Jan-13-10 02:48 PM   #172 
              - You should have stopped before you tried to push your BS.  HuckleB   Jan-13-10 02:52 PM   #178 
                 - You should stop being so obvious about wasting others' time.  omega minimo   Jan-13-10 02:54 PM   #180 
                    - More irony.  HuckleB   Jan-13-10 02:56 PM   #183 
  - Pft, well duh, ya'think? Homeopathy to treat an aggressive malignant brain tumor?  bridgit   Jan-13-10 12:07 AM   #121 
  - A comment about double-blind studies ...  bemildred   Jan-13-10 08:36 AM   #126 
  - exactly  Celebration   Jan-13-10 09:00 AM   #130 
  - That is a great subject.  HuckleB   Jan-13-10 09:50 AM   #133 
     - I won't deny it's a bit of a hijack.  bemildred   Jan-13-10 12:09 PM   #148 
        - This was a subject of much discussion in nursing school  laughingliberal   Jan-13-10 01:10 PM   #151 
        - A fair piece on the topic.  HuckleB   Jan-13-10 04:06 PM   #208 
           - Fair enough, here is one for you:  bemildred   Jan-13-10 05:50 PM   #227 
           - And one more:  bemildred   Jan-13-10 05:55 PM   #229 
              - They're both good studies.  HuckleB   Jan-13-10 06:45 PM   #231 
                 - Thanks.  bemildred   Jan-13-10 06:53 PM   #232 
                    - I just came across this and thought about this discussion.  HuckleB   Jan-14-10 05:24 AM   #245 
                       - "Oral sucrose has an analgesic effect in newborn infants  bemildred   Jan-14-10 08:45 AM   #248 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-13-10 12:48 PM   #150 
  - So...  HuckleB   Jan-13-10 02:47 PM   #170 
  - Homeopathy: A Warning from Africa  HuckleB   Jan-13-10 03:40 PM   #197 
  - David Mitchell and Dara O'Briain on Homeopathy & Psychics  HuckleB   Jan-13-10 03:47 PM   #199 
  - Voice of Reason: Licensing Naturopaths May Be Hazardous to Your Health  HuckleB   Jan-13-10 03:56 PM   #203 
  - Modern shamanismnaturopathy for hypertension  HuckleB   Jan-13-10 03:57 PM   #204 
  - The End of Chiropractic  HuckleB   Jan-13-10 04:03 PM   #205 
  - Those who live in glass houses (on chiropractic)  HuckleB   Jan-13-10 04:16 PM   #210 
  - Adverse Effects of Chiropractic  HuckleB   Jan-13-10 04:18 PM   #212 
  - Acupuncture Does Not Work for Back Pain (study)  HuckleB   Jan-13-10 04:20 PM   #213 
  - Acupuncture for IVF Revisited More Tooth Fairy Science?  HuckleB   Jan-13-10 04:22 PM   #214 
  - Puncturing the Acupuncture Myth  HuckleB   Jan-13-10 04:24 PM   #216 
  - Risks Associated With Complementary And Alternative Medicine (CAM): A Brief Overview  HuckleB   Jan-13-10 04:26 PM   #217 
  - The autism biomed movement: Uncontrolled and unethical experimentation on autistic children  HuckleB   Jan-13-10 04:29 PM   #219 
  - LOL.  bvar22   Jan-13-10 04:36 PM   #220 
  - I thnk I have just the group for you!  HuckleB   Jan-13-10 04:41 PM   #222 
  - That Mitchell and Webb Look: Lifestyle Nutritionists  HuckleB   Jan-13-10 04:36 PM   #221 
  - The GAO Report on Supplement Regulation  HuckleB   Jan-13-10 04:42 PM   #223 
  - ESP for Healthcare Professionals  HuckleB   Jan-13-10 04:46 PM   #224 
  - Through the Looking Glass of Acupuncture Research  HuckleB   Jan-13-10 04:49 PM   #225 
  - Acupuncture Works ... As Placebo  HuckleB   Jan-13-10 05:51 PM   #228 
  - $2.5 billion spent, no alternative cures found  HuckleB   Jan-13-10 11:28 PM   #240 
  - Homeopathic malaria advice 'risks lives'  HuckleB   Jan-14-10 05:36 AM   #247 
  - Lies, Damned Lies, and CAM Statistics  HuckleB   Jan-16-10 01:12 PM   #256 
  - Acupuncture and back pain: some interesting background references  HuckleB   Jan-16-10 01:21 PM   #257 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-19-10 12:43 PM   #264 
 

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