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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 11:43 AM
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45. Well, I have my own theories...
In the case of anorexia, the studies are conflicting and difficult to interpret. I think it's safe to say no one is really certain what the hell is going on. People *are* fucked up about food, but perhaps it has been ever thus -- I don't claim to be an expert.

I know it hit me right before I went away to college. It was about a lot of things -- yes, about not wanting to grow up and be sexual, but also about my perfectionism and my anger at my mother. It was as if all of a sudden, my anxieties and my confusion about my identity morphed into a desire to be as thin as possible. Really. I remember actually *deciding* that losing however many pounds would solve all my problems.

And all these years later, I can still remember the wonderful feeling of walking down the street, knowing 1)knowing I hadn't eaten all day, and 2)my body was shrinking at that very moment -- I could feel it happening. It *was* a high -- it was ecstatic. Like a former junky, I miss that feeling sometimes.

I think with some people, once the dieting ball gets rolling, it snowballs, to mix metaphors. But the dieting in the first place -- the hatred of one's body -- comes from the culture.

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  -Study: More than half of risk for developing anorexia is genetic HuckleB  Apr-07-06 08:39 AM   #0 
  - Why do you keep posting about anorexia on the GD page? Are you  WiseButAngrySara   Apr-07-06 08:48 AM   #1 
  - Do you really believe that?  Warpy   Apr-07-06 08:55 AM   #2 
  - Holy Anorexia is the LEAST likely to have a genetic component...and  WiseButAngrySara   Apr-07-06 09:02 AM   #4 
  - Hardly. Saintly women (who proved themselves saintly by  Warpy   Apr-07-06 09:30 AM   #11 
     - I read your article, and it supported my belief. Greeks (like Plato), the  WiseButAngrySara   Apr-07-06 10:20 AM   #19 
  - Maybe it's always been around, but I think there's much more of  raccoon   Apr-07-06 09:05 AM   #6 
     - Please read the links I posted, as well as the one Warpy posted.  HuckleB   Apr-07-06 10:06 AM   #15 
        - Self delete nt  raccoon   Apr-07-06 10:37 AM   #25 
           - .  HuckleB   Apr-07-06 10:40 AM   #26 
  - Perhaps because some people here probably are anorexic  lukasahero   Apr-07-06 09:02 AM   #3 
  - You tell me how you developed anorexia. Most anorexics know that it's  WiseButAngrySara   Apr-07-06 09:19 AM   #10 
  - Funny you make that assumption  lukasahero   Apr-07-06 10:46 AM   #30 
     - "your parents" and "their daughter" and your hostile defense...what would  WiseButAngrySara   Apr-07-06 10:59 AM   #36 
        - It was deliberate  lukasahero   Apr-07-06 11:06 AM   #38 
  - Even in families with strong genetic factors, the environment plays  ShortnFiery   Apr-07-06 12:48 PM   #59 
     - I agree with you entirely  lukasahero   Apr-07-06 12:59 PM   #63 
        - The author of this post has posted numerous articles in GD on anorexia  WiseButAngrySara   Apr-07-06 01:27 PM   #72 
           - Numerous?  HuckleB   Apr-07-06 01:53 PM   #75 
           - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Apr-07-06 02:11 PM   #78 
           - I don't think "blaming" is the right word  KurtNYC   Apr-07-06 02:04 PM   #77 
  - Mental illnesses can have a genetic component  AngryAmish   Apr-07-06 09:04 AM   #5 
  - I disagree with you, I had the disease and now my daughter has it  wisteria   Apr-07-06 09:07 AM   #7 
  - One hears about ladies who "went into a decline"....  Bridget Burke   Apr-07-06 10:24 AM   #21 
     - That's true! I never thought of that...  LostinVA   Apr-07-06 10:48 AM   #33 
        - And in the old days, those ladies were often turned over to doctors....  Bridget Burke   Apr-07-06 11:06 AM   #39 
           - Ick. I know... excessive bleeding killed Lord Byron, and probably  LostinVA   Apr-07-06 11:10 AM   #40 
  - wow. feeling a little angry but insensitive today? eom  freeplessinseattle   Apr-07-06 09:15 AM   #9 
  - Wisdom speaks for truth. If there is a genetic component in eating  WiseButAngrySara   Apr-07-06 09:32 AM   #12 
     - Funny, the evidence available clearly disagrees.  HuckleB   Apr-07-06 10:09 AM   #16 
     - Why can't it be both?  SmokingJacket   Apr-07-06 10:20 AM   #18 
     - I never argued otherwise, but like alcoholism, it has to be a very minor  WiseButAngrySara   Apr-07-06 10:28 AM   #22 
        - It's not a minor component in alcoholism  LostinVA   Apr-07-06 10:45 AM   #29 
        - I would argue that in the context of most alcoholics blaming it on their  WiseButAngrySara   Apr-07-06 12:35 PM   #54 
           - Not if they are an alcoholic. Alcoholism is a disease  LostinVA   Apr-07-06 12:47 PM   #58 
        - That's not medically supported  XemaSab   Apr-07-06 01:36 PM   #73 
     - "Blaming" conditions on genetics so you can ignore them....  Bridget Burke   Apr-07-06 10:44 AM   #28 
        - Exactly.  HuckleB   Apr-07-06 10:49 AM   #34 
  - It is the general discussion page.  HuckleB   Apr-07-06 10:01 AM   #13 
  - One of my dearest friends is the director of an eating disorders clinic in  WiseButAngrySara   Apr-07-06 11:48 AM   #47 
     - Oh brother.  HuckleB   Apr-07-06 12:25 PM   #50 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-07-06 12:33 PM   #52 
           - Sorry, I've been around too long to buy into such game playing...  HuckleB   Apr-07-06 12:36 PM   #55 
              - It most certanly does exist, and you would recognize the medical center.  WiseButAngrySara   Apr-07-06 01:04 PM   #66 
                 - LOL!  HuckleB   Apr-07-06 01:07 PM   #69 
                    - Lady, I just did a search on all of your posts, and the only posts on  WiseButAngrySara   Apr-07-06 01:18 PM   #70 
                       - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-07-06 01:51 PM   #74 
                       - Lady?  HuckleB   Apr-07-06 07:28 PM   #83 
  - Anorexic daughter, family history of depression/anxiety  seleff   Apr-07-06 10:35 AM   #24 
  - See post #47. I not only have a personal distant history of anorexia,  WiseButAngrySara   Apr-07-06 12:25 PM   #49 
     - Thanks for your post and I'm glad to hear that you healed  seleff   Apr-08-06 11:48 AM   #91 
     - Seleff, I'm working on a response to both of your posts, and I will PM  WiseButAngrySara   Apr-09-06 10:58 AM   #92 
     - No competent scientist would value "personal authority" over controlled  spooky3   May-14-06 01:59 PM   #95 
  - Very legit studies have shown it bridges generations  LostinVA   Apr-07-06 10:41 AM   #27 
  - Hasn't it been linked to  mzteris   Apr-07-06 11:30 AM   #43 
     - The comorbidity percentage is quite significant.  HuckleB   Apr-07-06 11:34 AM   #44 
  - So why would it be increasing?  SmokingJacket   Apr-07-06 09:13 AM   #8 
  - No one is denying environmental factors play a part.  HuckleB   Apr-07-06 10:03 AM   #14 
  - Sorry, misread your OP!  SmokingJacket   Apr-07-06 10:15 AM   #17 
  - I think the incidence of anorexia is going down  KurtNYC   Apr-07-06 10:35 AM   #23 
     - It's actually difficult to note...  HuckleB   Apr-07-06 10:46 AM   #31 
     - Googling for studies and using the word "control"  KurtNYC   Apr-07-06 01:04 PM   #67 
     - Your citations jive with our experience  seleff   Apr-07-06 11:04 AM   #37 
     - Well, I have my own theories...  SmokingJacket   Apr-07-06 11:43 AM   #45 
     - I can so relate to this...the perfectionism, the strange ecstatic 'high'  WiseButAngrySara   Apr-07-06 12:44 PM   #56 
     - I'm glad you're modifying your opinion.  Bridget Burke   Apr-07-06 02:45 PM   #80 
     - A very thoughtful post.  HuckleB   Apr-07-06 12:56 PM   #61 
        - Like I said, it's just my own personal theorizing...  SmokingJacket   Apr-07-06 02:14 PM   #79 
           - It's not silly.  HuckleB   Apr-07-06 07:34 PM   #87 
              - Thank you...  SmokingJacket   Apr-07-06 07:59 PM   #88 
     - I think the incidence  diamidue   Apr-07-06 01:02 PM   #65 
        - Re: differences and definitions/criteria  HuckleB   Apr-07-06 01:05 PM   #68 
        - Exactly, I had a distorted body image and a need to feel in control of  wisteria   Apr-07-06 01:59 PM   #76 
  - Thanks for the post and links ....  etherealtruth   Apr-07-06 10:24 AM   #20 
  - I think you got it right.  HuckleB   Apr-07-06 07:31 PM   #86 
  - Then why was anorexia not rampant in the 30's or 40s or 50s??  progressivebydesign   Apr-07-06 10:46 AM   #32 
  - Please read the actual articles...  HuckleB   Apr-07-06 10:51 AM   #35 
  - How do you know it wasn't?  LostinVA   Apr-07-06 11:11 AM   #41 
  - you ever really looked  mzteris   Apr-07-06 12:02 PM   #48 
  - Thin does not mean anorexic  diamidue   Apr-07-06 11:12 AM   #42 
  - So, it's like a genetic OCD basically?  porphyrian   Apr-07-06 11:47 AM   #46 
  - FYI...  HuckleB   Apr-07-06 12:35 PM   #53 
  - Of course they want to find a "genetic basis"...  VelmaD   Apr-07-06 12:29 PM   #51 
  - Wrong.  HuckleB   Apr-07-06 12:45 PM   #57 
  - Thanks! I agree. More money for the pharmaceutical industry. n/t  WiseButAngrySara   Apr-07-06 12:52 PM   #60 
  - Please show us how the pharm industry is trying to make money...  HuckleB   Apr-07-06 12:58 PM   #62 
  - Maybe side effect profiles in depression studies will promote successful o  seleff   Apr-08-06 11:06 AM   #90 
     - Small studies are being done, and have been done.  HuckleB   Apr-10-06 07:58 AM   #94 
  - Yeah, because it's not like big pharma is making any money  lukasahero   Apr-07-06 01:01 PM   #64 
  - Bullshit!  Odin2005   Apr-07-06 01:23 PM   #71 
  - Some books on the psychosocial origin; Genetics has to explain why no men.  WiseButAngrySara   Apr-07-06 04:46 PM   #81 
  - All published before most of the actual research on anorexia occurred.  HuckleB   Apr-07-06 07:30 PM   #84 
  - I knew an anorexic guy.  SmokingJacket   Apr-07-06 08:08 PM   #89 
  - The leader of my eating disorder support group says:  Nikia   Apr-07-06 06:06 PM   #82 
     - Good post.  HuckleB   Apr-07-06 07:30 PM   #85 
     - Very true...  varkam   Apr-09-06 01:46 PM   #93 

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