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WiseButAngrySara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 11:48 AM
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47. One of my dearest friends is the director of an eating disorders clinic in
a large medical center in a metropoliitan city. Interestingly, she had anorexia, AND she had a twin sister, who had no problems at all with eating, nor did her mother. She believes that the trigger for the onset of her disease was when her twin sister was diagnosed with osteosarcoma, requiring amputation. She has interviewed thousands of young women suffering with anorexia and/or bullimia, and believes like I do, that it is largely psychosocial. She believes firmly in the parental role and the role of the media, although does not discount the possiblilty of genetics playing a minor role, nor do I. She told me a few years ago that a history of sexual abuse was very frequently observed in many of these women, and I didn't believe her until I had researched it independently. I met her socially without knowledge of our shared interest in eating disorders; that was just an added bonus to our friendship.

I had anorexia years ago, before it was discussed in the media. I know exactly what triggered my disease. It was my mother's fear of me getting fat. I was 5'6" and weighed 125 pounds (the most I've ever weighed in my life). I was nominated as runner up to 'Most Beautiful' by my high school peers, and was popular enough, so it was never peer pressure. It was my mother's fear of fat and my father's tacit approval
that triggered my anorexia, which lasted for several years. I starved myself to "be ye perfect", and the fasting got easier and easier; one just lost interest in food, and the starvation decreases the hunger pangs. I weighed 90 pounds at my low point, and still thought I was fat. I was so insane, that terror gripped me before I would step on the bathroom scale! I haven't owned a scale in years, and my weight has been steady at 118 pounds for as many years.

Ironically, the fasting increased my spiritual interest. It was my father's concern for me that made me realize that I was not the only one in the universe that believed that they couldn't eat. And that started the healing, reading everything I could on the subject, and at that time Hilda Bruch was the primary author. I have thankfully, been healed for years. My mother has always been thin, as has my sister (whom I've suspected of having an eating disorder herself), and they both restrict their calories, but always hide it by saying that they can eat whatever they want, having lucky metabolism. My sister is repeating the lies of my mother. Thank God I'm out of that sick mind-set. Do I think that this is genetic because my mother and sister seem to have eating disorders of some sort? Not in the slightest. It is vanity, and wanting to live up to sick social norms.

BTW, I have a masters degree in biochemistry and an MD, and am trained in pathology. So, if you think for one minute that I'm in any way ignorant about genetics, you are so wrong.

Be grateful that I disagreed with your post that 50% of eating disorders are genetic. You certainly got more responses that way. Genetic studies are often done to support a preconceived notion about what scientists want to believe.

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  -Study: More than half of risk for developing anorexia is genetic HuckleB  Apr-07-06 08:39 AM   #0 
  - Why do you keep posting about anorexia on the GD page? Are you  WiseButAngrySara   Apr-07-06 08:48 AM   #1 
  - Do you really believe that?  Warpy   Apr-07-06 08:55 AM   #2 
  - Holy Anorexia is the LEAST likely to have a genetic component...and  WiseButAngrySara   Apr-07-06 09:02 AM   #4 
  - Hardly. Saintly women (who proved themselves saintly by  Warpy   Apr-07-06 09:30 AM   #11 
     - I read your article, and it supported my belief. Greeks (like Plato), the  WiseButAngrySara   Apr-07-06 10:20 AM   #19 
  - Maybe it's always been around, but I think there's much more of  raccoon   Apr-07-06 09:05 AM   #6 
     - Please read the links I posted, as well as the one Warpy posted.  HuckleB   Apr-07-06 10:06 AM   #15 
        - Self delete nt  raccoon   Apr-07-06 10:37 AM   #25 
           - .  HuckleB   Apr-07-06 10:40 AM   #26 
  - Perhaps because some people here probably are anorexic  lukasahero   Apr-07-06 09:02 AM   #3 
  - You tell me how you developed anorexia. Most anorexics know that it's  WiseButAngrySara   Apr-07-06 09:19 AM   #10 
  - Funny you make that assumption  lukasahero   Apr-07-06 10:46 AM   #30 
     - "your parents" and "their daughter" and your hostile defense...what would  WiseButAngrySara   Apr-07-06 10:59 AM   #36 
        - It was deliberate  lukasahero   Apr-07-06 11:06 AM   #38 
  - Even in families with strong genetic factors, the environment plays  ShortnFiery   Apr-07-06 12:48 PM   #59 
     - I agree with you entirely  lukasahero   Apr-07-06 12:59 PM   #63 
        - The author of this post has posted numerous articles in GD on anorexia  WiseButAngrySara   Apr-07-06 01:27 PM   #72 
           - Numerous?  HuckleB   Apr-07-06 01:53 PM   #75 
           - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Apr-07-06 02:11 PM   #78 
           - I don't think "blaming" is the right word  KurtNYC   Apr-07-06 02:04 PM   #77 
  - Mental illnesses can have a genetic component  AngryAmish   Apr-07-06 09:04 AM   #5 
  - I disagree with you, I had the disease and now my daughter has it  wisteria   Apr-07-06 09:07 AM   #7 
  - One hears about ladies who "went into a decline"....  Bridget Burke   Apr-07-06 10:24 AM   #21 
     - That's true! I never thought of that...  LostinVA   Apr-07-06 10:48 AM   #33 
        - And in the old days, those ladies were often turned over to doctors....  Bridget Burke   Apr-07-06 11:06 AM   #39 
           - Ick. I know... excessive bleeding killed Lord Byron, and probably  LostinVA   Apr-07-06 11:10 AM   #40 
  - wow. feeling a little angry but insensitive today? eom  freeplessinseattle   Apr-07-06 09:15 AM   #9 
  - Wisdom speaks for truth. If there is a genetic component in eating  WiseButAngrySara   Apr-07-06 09:32 AM   #12 
     - Funny, the evidence available clearly disagrees.  HuckleB   Apr-07-06 10:09 AM   #16 
     - Why can't it be both?  SmokingJacket   Apr-07-06 10:20 AM   #18 
     - I never argued otherwise, but like alcoholism, it has to be a very minor  WiseButAngrySara   Apr-07-06 10:28 AM   #22 
        - It's not a minor component in alcoholism  LostinVA   Apr-07-06 10:45 AM   #29 
        - I would argue that in the context of most alcoholics blaming it on their  WiseButAngrySara   Apr-07-06 12:35 PM   #54 
           - Not if they are an alcoholic. Alcoholism is a disease  LostinVA   Apr-07-06 12:47 PM   #58 
        - That's not medically supported  XemaSab   Apr-07-06 01:36 PM   #73 
     - "Blaming" conditions on genetics so you can ignore them....  Bridget Burke   Apr-07-06 10:44 AM   #28 
        - Exactly.  HuckleB   Apr-07-06 10:49 AM   #34 
  - It is the general discussion page.  HuckleB   Apr-07-06 10:01 AM   #13 
  - One of my dearest friends is the director of an eating disorders clinic in  WiseButAngrySara   Apr-07-06 11:48 AM   #47 
     - Oh brother.  HuckleB   Apr-07-06 12:25 PM   #50 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-07-06 12:33 PM   #52 
           - Sorry, I've been around too long to buy into such game playing...  HuckleB   Apr-07-06 12:36 PM   #55 
              - It most certanly does exist, and you would recognize the medical center.  WiseButAngrySara   Apr-07-06 01:04 PM   #66 
                 - LOL!  HuckleB   Apr-07-06 01:07 PM   #69 
                    - Lady, I just did a search on all of your posts, and the only posts on  WiseButAngrySara   Apr-07-06 01:18 PM   #70 
                       - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-07-06 01:51 PM   #74 
                       - Lady?  HuckleB   Apr-07-06 07:28 PM   #83 
  - Anorexic daughter, family history of depression/anxiety  seleff   Apr-07-06 10:35 AM   #24 
  - See post #47. I not only have a personal distant history of anorexia,  WiseButAngrySara   Apr-07-06 12:25 PM   #49 
     - Thanks for your post and I'm glad to hear that you healed  seleff   Apr-08-06 11:48 AM   #91 
     - Seleff, I'm working on a response to both of your posts, and I will PM  WiseButAngrySara   Apr-09-06 10:58 AM   #92 
     - No competent scientist would value "personal authority" over controlled  spooky3   May-14-06 01:59 PM   #95 
  - Very legit studies have shown it bridges generations  LostinVA   Apr-07-06 10:41 AM   #27 
  - Hasn't it been linked to  mzteris   Apr-07-06 11:30 AM   #43 
     - The comorbidity percentage is quite significant.  HuckleB   Apr-07-06 11:34 AM   #44 
  - So why would it be increasing?  SmokingJacket   Apr-07-06 09:13 AM   #8 
  - No one is denying environmental factors play a part.  HuckleB   Apr-07-06 10:03 AM   #14 
  - Sorry, misread your OP!  SmokingJacket   Apr-07-06 10:15 AM   #17 
  - I think the incidence of anorexia is going down  KurtNYC   Apr-07-06 10:35 AM   #23 
     - It's actually difficult to note...  HuckleB   Apr-07-06 10:46 AM   #31 
     - Googling for studies and using the word "control"  KurtNYC   Apr-07-06 01:04 PM   #67 
     - Your citations jive with our experience  seleff   Apr-07-06 11:04 AM   #37 
     - Well, I have my own theories...  SmokingJacket   Apr-07-06 11:43 AM   #45 
     - I can so relate to this...the perfectionism, the strange ecstatic 'high'  WiseButAngrySara   Apr-07-06 12:44 PM   #56 
     - I'm glad you're modifying your opinion.  Bridget Burke   Apr-07-06 02:45 PM   #80 
     - A very thoughtful post.  HuckleB   Apr-07-06 12:56 PM   #61 
        - Like I said, it's just my own personal theorizing...  SmokingJacket   Apr-07-06 02:14 PM   #79 
           - It's not silly.  HuckleB   Apr-07-06 07:34 PM   #87 
              - Thank you...  SmokingJacket   Apr-07-06 07:59 PM   #88 
     - I think the incidence  diamidue   Apr-07-06 01:02 PM   #65 
        - Re: differences and definitions/criteria  HuckleB   Apr-07-06 01:05 PM   #68 
        - Exactly, I had a distorted body image and a need to feel in control of  wisteria   Apr-07-06 01:59 PM   #76 
  - Thanks for the post and links ....  etherealtruth   Apr-07-06 10:24 AM   #20 
  - I think you got it right.  HuckleB   Apr-07-06 07:31 PM   #86 
  - Then why was anorexia not rampant in the 30's or 40s or 50s??  progressivebydesign   Apr-07-06 10:46 AM   #32 
  - Please read the actual articles...  HuckleB   Apr-07-06 10:51 AM   #35 
  - How do you know it wasn't?  LostinVA   Apr-07-06 11:11 AM   #41 
  - you ever really looked  mzteris   Apr-07-06 12:02 PM   #48 
  - Thin does not mean anorexic  diamidue   Apr-07-06 11:12 AM   #42 
  - So, it's like a genetic OCD basically?  porphyrian   Apr-07-06 11:47 AM   #46 
  - FYI...  HuckleB   Apr-07-06 12:35 PM   #53 
  - Of course they want to find a "genetic basis"...  VelmaD   Apr-07-06 12:29 PM   #51 
  - Wrong.  HuckleB   Apr-07-06 12:45 PM   #57 
  - Thanks! I agree. More money for the pharmaceutical industry. n/t  WiseButAngrySara   Apr-07-06 12:52 PM   #60 
  - Please show us how the pharm industry is trying to make money...  HuckleB   Apr-07-06 12:58 PM   #62 
  - Maybe side effect profiles in depression studies will promote successful o  seleff   Apr-08-06 11:06 AM   #90 
     - Small studies are being done, and have been done.  HuckleB   Apr-10-06 07:58 AM   #94 
  - Yeah, because it's not like big pharma is making any money  lukasahero   Apr-07-06 01:01 PM   #64 
  - Bullshit!  Odin2005   Apr-07-06 01:23 PM   #71 
  - Some books on the psychosocial origin; Genetics has to explain why no men.  WiseButAngrySara   Apr-07-06 04:46 PM   #81 
  - All published before most of the actual research on anorexia occurred.  HuckleB   Apr-07-06 07:30 PM   #84 
  - I knew an anorexic guy.  SmokingJacket   Apr-07-06 08:08 PM   #89 
  - The leader of my eating disorder support group says:  Nikia   Apr-07-06 06:06 PM   #82 
     - Good post.  HuckleB   Apr-07-06 07:30 PM   #85 
     - Very true...  varkam   Apr-09-06 01:46 PM   #93 

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