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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 11:14 AM
Response to Reply #12
68. Lauren, I was mistaken
when I said "MRI". Please see my post below for clarification.

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  -Homeopathic medications are regulated by the FDA Why Syzygy  Jun-20-09 06:35 AM   #0 
  - This is good to hear!  LaurenG   Jun-20-09 06:52 AM   #1 
  - I tried to reach this group,  elleng   Jun-20-09 06:55 AM   #3 
  - You know..  Why Syzygy   Jun-20-09 07:01 AM   #4 
     - I do not think zinc is included in the proper dosage;  elleng   Jun-20-09 08:50 AM   #31 
        - I didn't even realize  Why Syzygy   Jun-20-09 09:21 AM   #35 
  - This is a joke, right?...  SidDithers   Jun-20-09 06:52 AM   #2 
  - Sid, the UK has been using them for years.  LaurenG   Jun-20-09 07:07 AM   #5 
  - Allergy "shots" and immunotherapy...  SidDithers   Jun-20-09 07:24 AM   #7 
  - see below  LaurenG   Jun-20-09 07:46 AM   #13 
  - If you need further review before saying that a pull with no active ingredients is not effective...  chascarrillo   Jun-20-09 07:39 AM   #10 
     - They contain few OR no active ingredients  LaurenG   Jun-20-09 07:45 AM   #12 
        - Detection  Why Syzygy   Jun-20-09 08:00 AM   #15 
        - Oh my...  SidDithers   Jun-20-09 08:12 AM   #19 
        - And how exactly  skepticscott   Jun-20-09 09:14 PM   #92 
           - Because they cured people  Why Syzygy   Jun-21-09 05:56 AM   #94 
              - So you mean  skepticscott   Jun-21-09 06:55 AM   #96 
                 - Lame attempt  Why Syzygy   Jun-21-09 04:26 PM   #98 
                    - Well, if all you can do is cut and paste  skepticscott   Jun-21-09 09:32 PM   #102 
        - Here's an example.  chascarrillo   Jun-20-09 08:36 AM   #28 
        - Exactly...  SidDithers   Jun-20-09 08:41 AM   #30 
        - Loren, another factor relevant (I failed to mention)  Why Syzygy   Jun-20-09 09:13 AM   #34 
        - Lauren, I was mistaken  Why Syzygy   Jun-20-09 11:14 AM   #68 
           - I got ya - no problem and thanks for the interesting information  LaurenG   Jun-20-09 12:00 PM   #84 
  - I'm sure they do.  DeltaLitProf   Jun-20-09 07:19 AM   #6 
  - hmm  BuddhaGirl   Jun-20-09 10:19 AM   #44 
     - No, they're most definately safe...  SidDithers   Jun-20-09 10:24 AM   #45 
     - yes because whole hospitals are operated  BuddhaGirl   Jun-20-09 11:40 AM   #76 
        - Uh, what?  Orrex   Jun-20-09 11:44 AM   #77 
           - Of course they don't use the same treatment for  Why Syzygy   Jun-20-09 11:50 AM   #80 
              - Of course I do, but snark begets snark.  Orrex   Jun-20-09 11:53 AM   #82 
     - Hospitals  Why Syzygy   Jun-20-09 10:29 AM   #48 
  - Everyone should welcome the true homeopathic preparations  Celebration   Jun-20-09 07:30 AM   #8 
  - For some  Why Syzygy   Jun-20-09 07:39 AM   #9 
     - For some unknown reason, woos are fine with dishonesty..nt  SidDithers   Jun-20-09 07:42 AM   #11 
     - You obviously have not ever used a homeopathic remedy and  mother earth   Jun-20-09 07:58 AM   #14 
     - Are you sure you're not confusing homeopathic...  SidDithers   Jun-20-09 08:07 AM   #17 
        - No, I'm not confusing naturopathic with homeopathy, I cannot  mother earth   Jun-20-09 11:12 AM   #67 
     - Is the statement, "for some unknown reason, skeptics are fine with dishonesty"  LaurenG   Jun-20-09 08:03 AM   #16 
        - If a person has no problem with "homeopathic meds" being sold...  SidDithers   Jun-20-09 08:09 AM   #18 
           - Is the goal to make people feel better, or not?  Celebration   Jun-20-09 08:14 AM   #20 
           - How, exactly, do you give yourself placebos?  Orrex   Jun-20-09 08:35 AM   #27 
              - My mother and I  Why Syzygy   Jun-20-09 09:41 AM   #36 
                 - And if the hospital had given her the TicTac  SidDithers   Jun-20-09 10:08 AM   #43 
                 - Then you lied to your grandmother. Apparently, as Sid noted, you are fine with dishonesty.  Orrex   Jun-20-09 10:30 AM   #49 
                    - Pios fraud..  Why Syzygy   Jun-20-09 10:34 AM   #51 
                    - "atheists/evolutionists"? WTF?...  SidDithers   Jun-20-09 10:38 AM   #52 
                    - Calling it mercy is rationalizing a lie.  Orrex   Jun-20-09 10:48 AM   #57 
                       - You're nicer, and much more patient, than I...  SidDithers   Jun-20-09 10:51 AM   #59 
                       - She barely even  Why Syzygy   Jun-20-09 10:54 AM   #61 
                       - You're trying to have it both ways.  Orrex   Jun-20-09 11:02 AM   #62 
                          - You're not above  Why Syzygy   Jun-20-09 11:12 AM   #66 
                             - You're right--that was a cheap shot, and I apologize.  Orrex   Jun-20-09 11:26 AM   #73 
                                - I appreciate and respect  Why Syzygy   Jun-20-09 11:59 AM   #83 
                                   - Hypotheticals are also subject to exaggeration, unfortunatley  Orrex   Jun-20-09 12:06 PM   #85 
                                      - Right. Therein lies the weakness. nt  Why Syzygy   Jun-20-09 12:13 PM   #87 
                       - "Comfort was the goal.That's very different, unless...would have been fatal"  uppityperson   Jun-21-09 05:20 PM   #101 
                          - As I've stated several times, I would almost certainly have told the same lie.  Orrex   Jun-21-09 09:47 PM   #104 
                             - I agree with that.  uppityperson   Jun-21-09 11:40 PM   #107 
                             - I thought about this  Why Syzygy   Jun-22-09 12:13 AM   #110 
                                - all skeptics are not fundamentalists. thank you for your concern for we skeptics mental health thoug  uppityperson   Jun-22-09 12:27 AM   #111 
                                - No. It was broad brush.  Why Syzygy   Jun-22-09 12:42 AM   #112 
                                   - "thread outing a sensitive group"?  uppityperson   Jun-22-09 12:46 AM   #113 
                                      - No. Your words, not mine.  Why Syzygy   Jun-22-09 12:51 AM   #115 
                                      - "thread outing a sensitive group" is direct copy/paste from your post  uppityperson   Jun-22-09 12:58 AM   #117 
                                      - THESE words...  Why Syzygy   Jun-22-09 01:06 AM   #119 
                                      - You still haven't pointed out the "thread outing a sensitive group" you claim I posted  uppityperson   Jun-22-09 11:18 AM   #122 
                                      - And I don't intend to ....  Why Syzygy   Jun-22-09 12:39 PM   #125 
                                      - All those edits get confusing .. your edit at 12:48 ..  Why Syzygy   Jun-22-09 12:56 AM   #116 
                                         - "all those edits" are one edit.  uppityperson   Jun-22-09 01:00 AM   #118 
                                         - FTR,  Why Syzygy   Jun-22-09 05:51 AM   #120 
                                         - I found a picture of the kind of skeptic that WS is referring to.  trotsky   Jun-22-09 12:00 PM   #124 
                                         - Thank you trosky for your edifying post.  uppityperson   Jun-22-09 01:48 PM   #127 
                                - You're not reading most of what I've been writing.  Orrex   Jun-22-09 08:07 AM   #121 
                                   - "obliquely". thank you, that is thetword I haven't been able to remember  uppityperson   Jun-22-09 11:19 AM   #123 
                                   - Clarified.  Why Syzygy   Jun-22-09 12:44 PM   #126 
                    - In this case I agree the ends justified the means. And no, it doesn't mean the nurses didn't think  uppityperson   Jun-21-09 05:13 PM   #100 
                       - Saying that the ends justified the means doesn't change anything I wrote  Orrex   Jun-21-09 09:51 PM   #105 
                          - This is the part I disagree with and why it is central.  uppityperson   Jun-21-09 11:47 PM   #108 
                             - Hmm.  Orrex   Jun-22-09 12:03 AM   #109 
                                - Yeah. I don't think that matters at all.  Why Syzygy   Jun-22-09 12:46 AM   #114 
           - That wasn't my question and you didn't answer it.  LaurenG   Jun-20-09 08:19 AM   #23 
              - Again, making money off of water...  SidDithers   Jun-20-09 08:31 AM   #25 
                 - Ok but you're still just avoiding the question. nt  LaurenG   Jun-20-09 09:05 AM   #32 
                    - Would you like me to be more specific?...  SidDithers   Jun-20-09 09:09 AM   #33 
                       - I'm not outraged and I'm asking you because you seem like an intelligent person  LaurenG   Jun-20-09 09:52 AM   #38 
                          - You're right, and perhaps I was nasty..  SidDithers   Jun-20-09 09:59 AM   #41 
     - That's a broad brush. It's more accurate to say that skeptics hate misuse of the placebo effect.  Orrex   Jun-20-09 08:30 AM   #24 
     - Nonsensical.  Why Syzygy   Jun-20-09 09:48 AM   #37 
        - Not at all true, and that accusation is frankly beneath you.  Orrex   Jun-20-09 10:26 AM   #46 
           - You're being relativistic  Why Syzygy   Jun-20-09 10:42 AM   #53 
              - I don't understand what you're getting at.  Orrex   Jun-20-09 10:53 AM   #60 
     - And for some irrational reason most woos have no frackin' idea what the placebo effect really is  salvorhardin   Jun-20-09 10:34 AM   #50 
     - Oh goodie!  Why Syzygy   Jun-20-09 10:45 AM   #55 
     - I'm a skeptic and the placebo effect is fine with me. Of course I'd like  uppityperson   Jun-20-09 05:39 PM   #89 
     - Monumental hogwash  skepticscott   Jun-20-09 09:27 PM   #93 
        - I'm not familiar with  Why Syzygy   Jun-21-09 05:58 AM   #95 
           - Then perhaps you should make yourself familiar  skepticscott   Jun-21-09 07:09 AM   #97 
              - My voice was shut down quite recently, in fact.  Why Syzygy   Jun-21-09 04:31 PM   #99 
                 - And exactly how were you  skepticscott   Jun-21-09 09:40 PM   #103 
                    - Wrong.  Why Syzygy   Jun-21-09 11:26 PM   #106 
                    - ws was "shut down" by increasing his/her ignore list. see?  uppityperson   Jun-22-09 03:44 PM   #128 
                       - .Are you all still  Why Syzygy   Jun-22-09 03:56 PM   #129 
                          - If a post of yours was deleted  skepticscott   Jun-22-09 04:50 PM   #130 
                             - you just made her/him increase Ignore list again and are shutting him/her down  uppityperson   Jun-23-09 02:56 AM   #131 
                                - You're inviting me to leave? Again?  Why Syzygy   Jun-23-09 07:17 AM   #132 
                                   - Perhaps you do not understand the meaning of "you can always ignore me if you want"  uppityperson   Jun-23-09 01:01 PM   #133 
                                      - Thanks for your permission.  Why Syzygy   Jun-23-09 01:07 PM   #134 
                                         - Obviously you do not understand what that means. Or what you have to do to be licensed in WA  uppityperson   Jun-23-09 01:12 PM   #135 
  - aren't they mostly water?  eShirl   Jun-20-09 08:15 AM   #21 
  - yeah, mostly water  Celebration   Jun-20-09 08:18 AM   #22 
     - ok, but if one disbelieves in its effectiveness, is there any chance of the placebo effect working?  eShirl   Jun-20-09 08:35 AM   #26 
     - No.  Why Syzygy   Jun-20-09 09:53 AM   #39 
     - It must be disclaimed that there is no empirical support for an "energetic 'signature'"  Orrex   Jun-20-09 08:39 AM   #29 
        - As previously stated  Why Syzygy   Jun-20-09 09:56 AM   #40 
        - Two questions that I know you won't answer...  SidDithers   Jun-20-09 10:02 AM   #42 
        - Sid has already responded correctly. I likewise await your response.  Orrex   Jun-20-09 10:27 AM   #47 
           - I cannot reply to  Why Syzygy   Jun-20-09 10:44 AM   #54 
              - Then allow me to post his questions, which are mine as well:  Orrex   Jun-20-09 10:50 AM   #58 
                 - oops. my boo boo .. NMR *not* MRI  Why Syzygy   Jun-20-09 11:05 AM   #63 
                    - Thank you for the citation and link. I'll look into it.  Orrex   Jun-20-09 11:06 AM   #64 
                    - You do know that NMR and MRI are the same thing, right?...  SidDithers   Jun-20-09 11:09 AM   #65 
                    - I know that NRM was National Record Mart. Does that count for anything?  Orrex   Jun-20-09 11:30 AM   #75 
                    - MRI used to be called NMRI...  SidDithers   Jun-20-09 11:48 AM   #78 
                       - My nuclear family went critical when I dropped out of college  Orrex   Jun-20-09 11:49 AM   #79 
                          - Hehe, fingers flyin'...  SidDithers   Jun-20-09 11:52 AM   #81 
                    - I didn't know the MRI is also called a NMR  uppityperson   Jun-20-09 05:45 PM   #90 
                    - A more recent study...  SidDithers   Jun-20-09 11:21 AM   #70 
                    - Let's see if those results can bew duplicated...  chascarrillo   Jun-20-09 11:22 AM   #71 
        - Correcting all previous instances when I should have said "NMR" (not MRI) nt  Why Syzygy   Jun-20-09 11:19 AM   #69 
           - NMR is spectroscopy done on things...  SidDithers   Jun-20-09 11:22 AM   #72 
           - Sid made an important point which I repeat here for visibility's sake  Orrex   Jun-20-09 11:28 AM   #74 
              - I'm not well versed  Why Syzygy   Jun-20-09 12:12 PM   #86 
                 - If you're not well versed in that part of the "debate"...  SidDithers   Jun-20-09 12:20 PM   #88 
                 - You were once a fundie?  trotsky   Jun-20-09 06:31 PM   #91 
  - So...water and inactive ingredients are safe! Who knew? NT  dmallind   Jun-20-09 10:46 AM   #56 
 

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