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Sinistrous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-19-09 10:38 AM
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136. How silly of me. Since Mr. Harris was replying to tiptoe, I foolishly
assumed that the post he referred to as "Your thread" was one with tiptoe as the OP. I'm SO glad we have your mystic insight available to set us mere mortals on the path to correctness.

Of course, Mr. Harris's grotesque misreading of that quote he keeps trotting out is really quite laughable.
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  -Myths, FAQ, "...Vitamin D: A Real Missing Link..." Prescription=D2 vs D3, Testing, Optimal Ranges tiptoe  Jan-06-09 07:31 AM   #0 
  - Excellent information  Richard D   Jan-06-09 09:25 AM   #1 
  - Sounds like Doctors/Shills peddling pills for Big Pharma  cosmik debris   Jan-06-09 09:43 AM   #2 
  - If someone posted a drug ad from Merck in here they'd be drawn & quartered.  trotsky   Jan-06-09 10:52 AM   #3 
  - Well,  cosmik debris   Jan-06-09 11:55 AM   #4 
  - And it's played out just like every other scam.  trotsky   Jan-06-09 12:30 PM   #5 
     - And then there's this  itsjustme   Jan-06-09 02:20 PM   #6 
     - Ooh, so close!  trotsky   Jan-06-09 02:53 PM   #8 
     - well take whatever kind you want  itsjustme   Jan-06-09 03:17 PM   #9 
        - Thank you for dropping your erroneously-cited study.  trotsky   Jan-06-09 03:30 PM   #10 
           - what are you talking about?  itsjustme   Jan-06-09 03:36 PM   #11 
              - LMAO  trotsky   Jan-06-09 04:25 PM   #16 
                 - uh, that is an approximation, only  itsjustme   Jan-06-09 04:39 PM   #18 
                 - So you're arguing against the OP, then?  trotsky   Jan-06-09 05:55 PM   #21 
                    - -  mr blur   Apr-26-09 09:24 AM   #77 
                    - Wow! We're selling "test kits" on DU now? When even labs don't have a standard?  bluedawg12   Apr-27-09 02:05 PM   #86 
                 - Sunshine  Mamacrat   Apr-07-09 10:25 AM   #69 
     - thank you! great links nt  tiptoe   Jan-06-09 08:58 PM   #36 
     - "The important finding is that 1000 units/day couldn't get the Vitamin D level above 30ng/ml."  tiptoe   Jan-06-09 04:03 PM   #13 
     - another...study...opposite conclusion: "Vitamin D2 Is Much Less Effective than Vitamin D3 in Humans"  tiptoe   Jan-06-09 04:18 PM   #15 
        - Cripes, if you folks actually read what you posted this forum wouldn't be half as fun.  trotsky   Jan-06-09 04:28 PM   #17 
           - "The important finding is that 1000 units/day couldn't get the Vitamin D level above 30ng/ml." nt  tiptoe   Jan-06-09 05:26 PM   #20 
           - Four years newer, specifically addressed. n/t  trotsky   Jan-06-09 05:57 PM   #22 
              - "it does not provide a basis for assuming that vitamin D2 has equivalency with vitamin D3 wrt cancer  tiptoe   Jan-06-09 07:28 PM   #32 
              - You can re-quote your own posts as much as you'd like.  trotsky   Jan-06-09 07:41 PM   #33 
                 - One tip off that this whole thing was bogus  cosmik debris   Jan-06-09 08:42 PM   #34 
                 - and  MichaelHarris   Sep-17-09 06:14 PM   #128 
                 - "You came in here basically copying & pasting an ad from a supplement store." An example of pricing  tiptoe   Jan-06-09 08:52 PM   #35 
                 - I will continue my "ROFL-ing"...  trotsky   Jan-07-09 07:01 AM   #44 
                 - a peer reviewed opinion breast cancer risk and VitD- sadly no.  bluedawg12   Apr-27-09 02:17 PM   #87 
                    - VitD and endometiral cancer? Sadly, not proven to help.  bluedawg12   Apr-27-09 02:23 PM   #88 
                    - VitD and general health improvment for women? Nope.  bluedawg12   Apr-27-09 02:28 PM   #89 
                       - Above = 400IU VitD3 & serum not "biologically meaningful", but @ 1100 IU, serum 25(OH)D>80nm/L =Yep!  tiptoe   Apr-28-09 05:01 PM   #94 
                          - Thank you for your efforts and posts. nt  Why Syzygy   Apr-28-09 11:06 PM   #96 
                    - C. Garland: "The definitive study..." => "Vitamin D & calcium supplementation reduces cancer risk"  tiptoe   Apr-27-09 05:44 PM   #92 
                    - only 400 IU of vitamin D(3) ...See #92. nt  tiptoe   Apr-27-09 07:27 PM   #93 
                    - Studies show Vit D is in premenopausal women, This study about postmenopausal woman.  snagglepuss   Oct-25-09 05:51 PM   #142 
              - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-17-09 06:13 PM   #127 
           - OP: "reference range...begins at 32 (ng/ml)..." nt  tiptoe   Jan-06-09 06:08 PM   #23 
           - OP: 1000 IU/d ofD3when patients are below the reference range [is] inadequate nt  tiptoe   Jan-06-09 06:09 PM   #24 
              - Do you really think..... n/t  trotsky   Jan-06-09 06:10 PM   #25 
              - ...that putting a different phrase for a Subject... n/t  trotsky   Jan-06-09 06:10 PM   #26 
              - ...in a series of replies... n/t  trotsky   Jan-06-09 06:11 PM   #27 
              - ...makes some kind of special point? n/t  trotsky   Jan-06-09 06:11 PM   #28 
                 - When it's useful information, yes, unlike your "stuff". nt  tiptoe   Jan-06-09 06:14 PM   #29 
                 - I suppose.  trotsky   Jan-06-09 06:26 PM   #31 
                 - you're  MichaelHarris   Sep-17-09 06:18 PM   #129 
                 - ! rofl n/t  uppityperson   Jan-07-09 01:32 AM   #43 
  - Thank you and cd for noticing.  uppityperson   Jan-06-09 02:41 PM   #7 
  - It was easy to tell that this was bogus  cosmik debris   Jan-06-09 03:55 PM   #12 
  - threads like this  MichaelHarris   Sep-17-09 06:08 PM   #126 
  - That would be HRC, but Obama smartly neutralized her utility to Big Pharma vs People's Healthcare nt  tiptoe   Jan-06-09 09:23 PM   #38 
  - Too late, you're cover is blown  cosmik debris   Jan-06-09 09:28 PM   #39 
  - Those of us with MS are familiar with,  mr blur   Mar-24-09 03:16 AM   #65 
  - There is eivdence of VitD deficiency in people with MS  bluedawg12   Apr-27-09 02:41 PM   #90 
  - Huh? Vitamin D Is Cheap And Available Without Prescription  MannyGoldstein   Jun-11-09 08:18 PM   #108 
  - interesting info!  BuddhaGirl   Jan-06-09 04:15 PM   #14 
  - Yikes! Why so much?  quantessd   Jan-06-09 04:55 PM   #19 
     - 4000 IU isn't toxic  BuddhaGirl   Jan-06-09 06:21 PM   #30 
        - I know what you mean about not getting enough sunlight.  quantessd   Jan-06-09 09:09 PM   #37 
        - Maybe you already have the answers, but re your combo pills for vitamin D (from the FAQ):  tiptoe   Jan-06-09 10:32 PM   #40 
           - Thanks. Now I have a better idea which Calcium supplements  quantessd   Jan-06-09 11:54 PM   #41 
              - Check out the last 3 minutes of this video-lecture: Mentioned is it's not just about "Calcium In"  tiptoe   Jan-07-09 12:38 AM   #42 
        - my doctor suggested i take 5000iu of D3  noiretextatique   Jun-12-09 03:32 PM   #111 
        - you're  MichaelHarris   Sep-17-09 06:21 PM   #130 
  - More than 50% of this thread (on my screen) says "ignored". n/t  4MoronicYears   Jan-10-09 12:59 PM   #45 
  - Well, THAT is certainly telling.  uppityperson   Jan-10-09 01:23 PM   #46 
  - Absolutely  4MoronicYears   Jan-10-09 01:38 PM   #47 
     - I try to discuss, dispute, but not insult.  uppityperson   Jan-10-09 01:46 PM   #48 
        - No, my ignored was prone to ad hominem attacks.... they stressed  4MoronicYears   Jan-10-09 02:29 PM   #50 
           - I suspect my ignored on this page coincide with yours  Chemisse   Nov-02-09 04:55 AM   #144 
  - What a sad little statement.  trotsky   Jan-10-09 01:49 PM   #49 
  - Strangely enough, my screen says the same thing  Orrex   Mar-21-09 06:45 PM   #62 
     - People who overuse the ignore option likely have more serenity...but a decreasing IQ?  wuvuj   Apr-28-09 07:56 PM   #95 
        - Decreased IQ's are associated with low D3 levels.... I'm pretty  HysteryDiagnosis   Oct-24-09 01:50 PM   #139 
        - I will only ignore someone if they  Chemisse   Nov-02-09 04:59 AM   #145 
  - "Low Levels Of Vitamin D Link To Cognitive Problems In Older People"  tiptoe   Jan-30-09 01:42 AM   #51 
  - "Vitamin D helps control MS gene" -- D-deficiency, genetics & risk of MS...first evidence 2/5/2009  tiptoe   Feb-08-09 11:45 AM   #52 
  - "The Truth About Vitamin D" - Text, 2/17/09 chat w Dr. Anthony Komaroff, M.D, Harvard Medical School  tiptoe   Feb-18-09 11:33 AM   #53 
  - Vitamin D Toxicity: Caveat Emptor  dropkickpa   Feb-18-09 12:57 PM   #54 
  - "Vitamin D2 Toxicity: Caveat Emptor"(!) Confusion of Vitamin D2 and D3 in article?  tiptoe   Feb-18-09 05:42 PM   #55 
  - 600,000 IU a day?  aquart   Apr-26-09 06:46 PM   #81 
  - Study of 87 Arab-American women: Dangerously-low 8.5-to-4ng/mL serum Vitamin D. (Ref = 32-100)  tiptoe   Feb-19-09 02:01 PM   #56 
  - Religion attacks women in so many stealthy ways.  aquart   Apr-26-09 06:47 PM   #82 
  - American Academy of Pediatrics has doubled its daily dose recommendation of vitamin D in children  tiptoe   Feb-20-09 05:57 PM   #57 
  - I take 5000 IU of D3....  wuvuj   Feb-26-09 07:39 PM   #58 
  - Great source.  tabatha   Feb-26-09 11:14 PM   #59 
  - Low vitamin D bad for teen heart heath  tiptoe   Mar-16-09 06:15 AM   #60 
  - "Valuing vitamin D" (Interview with Dr. Michael Holick)  tiptoe   Mar-21-09 04:44 PM   #61 
  - Latest study?  wuvuj   Mar-23-09 12:39 PM   #64 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-22-09 04:30 PM   #63 
  - Cancer, Vitamin D, and Sunshine  tiptoe   Mar-31-09 02:53 PM   #66 
  - Updated Position Statement on Vitamin D Issued by the American Academy of Dermatology - Sept 9 2009  tiptoe   Sep-09-09 07:15 PM   #123 
  - Thanks for posting this info  JustCommonSense   Mar-31-09 08:49 PM   #67 
  - "...outrageous": Researchers who touted high vitamin D doses shut out of panel  tiptoe   Apr-06-09 09:48 PM   #68 
  - Links to above article, comments and Vieth slide presentation:  tiptoe   Apr-24-09 07:58 PM   #73 
  - Vitamin D Deficiency Linked to Increased C-Section Rate  tiptoe   Apr-12-09 06:15 AM   #70 
  - "That is really just a theory at this point. We definitely haven't identified a causal pathway."  uppityperson   Apr-12-09 03:26 PM   #71 
  - Webcast, April 22, 9AM PDT: Media advisory/Interview opportunity- Vitamin D: the new wonder vitamin?  tiptoe   Apr-22-09 02:03 AM   #72 
  - Thank you for all this information  cbc5g   Apr-26-09 09:17 AM   #76 
  - "75% of deaths from these cancers could be prevented with adequate intake of vitamin D3 and calcium"  tiptoe   Apr-24-09 08:23 PM   #74 
  - So has anyone ever confirmed their model is accurate for anything?  stray cat   Apr-26-09 06:42 PM   #79 
  - Vitamin D also affects pain.  aquart   Apr-26-09 06:44 PM   #80 
  - I guess it's oencouraging that they used a complex computer rather than a simple one. nt  caseymoz   Apr-27-09 01:45 AM   #84 
  - "What If Vitamin D Deficiency Is a Cause of Autism?" -- Scientific American, April 24, 2009  tiptoe   Apr-26-09 08:35 AM   #75 
  - If this study was looking at all of MN then they are probably incorrect.  jwirr   Apr-26-09 09:53 AM   #78 
  - I see we have a new miracle dietary fad in progress.  caseymoz   Apr-27-09 01:42 AM   #83 
  - Vitamin C is certainly THAT good.  Cetacea   May-25-09 02:08 PM   #103 
  - Oh, right! Life from the sun is....just a fad  kimmerspixelated   Jul-08-09 04:25 PM   #119 
  - Vitamin D hope in prostate cancer -- April 26, 2009, BBC News  tiptoe   Apr-27-09 11:37 AM   #85 
  - There is always hope and a need for more workand research.  bluedawg12   Apr-27-09 02:50 PM   #91 
  - "The point is this: men with prostate cancer should not allow themselves to be Vit D deficient and  tiptoe   May-12-09 05:01 PM   #100 
  - Swine Flu Infection Symptoms and Vitamin D -- Can it help?  tiptoe   Apr-29-09 03:06 AM   #97 
  - Epidemic Influenza And Vitamin D -- J J Cannell  tiptoe   May-02-09 11:33 PM   #98 
  - "Am I Vitamin D Deficient?" ("What we recommend") -- John Cannell, MD, Vitamin D Council  tiptoe   May-06-09 05:14 PM   #99 
  - Vitamin D expert receives Linus Pauling Prize for Health Research (Dr. Michael Holick)  tiptoe   May-25-09 11:58 AM   #101 
  - Link for full text of above press release  tiptoe   May-26-09 04:28 AM   #104 
  - H1N1 Flu and Vitamin D (What to do re the possibility of an H1N1 flu pandemic) -- Dr. John Cannell  tiptoe   May-25-09 12:57 PM   #102 
  - WHO on verge of declaring H1N1 flu pandemic - x  tiptoe   Jun-10-09 11:07 AM   #105 
  - WHO raises flu pandemic to highest level - x ("first global epidemic since 1968")  tiptoe   Jun-11-09 12:02 PM   #106 
  - "Successful Weight Loss With Dieting Is Linked To Vitamin D Levels"  tiptoe   Jun-11-09 07:52 PM   #107 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-11-09 08:20 PM   #109 
  - Thanks tiptoe! You are relentless :) nt  glitch   Jun-11-09 08:24 PM   #110 
  - S Hemisphere Mutation detected: "South America bears winter brunt of H1N1 pandemic"  tiptoe   Jun-17-09 12:05 PM   #112 
  - CDC rejects report of mutant H1N1 strain in Brazil  tiptoe   Jun-17-09 10:55 PM   #113 
  - "Breathe Right: The Surprising Link between Asthma and Vitamin D"  tiptoe   Jul-08-09 01:12 PM   #115 
  - System and Tissue Distribution of Vitamin D Receptors (VDR)  tiptoe   Jun-22-09 12:18 PM   #114 
  - "Vitamin D Testing: What the Government Giveth, It Taketh Away"  tiptoe   Jul-08-09 01:56 PM   #116 
  - "Noteworthy News Proposed Restrictions on Vitamin D Testing"  tiptoe   Jul-08-09 03:00 PM   #117 
  - Estimated benefit of increased Vit D status in reducing the economic burden of disease in W Europe  tiptoe   Jul-08-09 04:04 PM   #118 
  - PDF (full article) here:  tiptoe   Jul-08-09 05:17 PM   #120 
  - How Vitamin D Reduces the Incidence of Cancer: The DINOMIT Model (vid)  tiptoe   Jul-22-09 12:36 AM   #121 
  - Low maternal vitamin D increases risk of HIV transmission to child and infant mortality  tiptoe   Aug-17-09 05:04 PM   #122 
  - Letter from Dr J Cannell: "Vitamin D is incredibly protective against H1N1" -- New Evidence, 9/17/09  tiptoe   Sep-17-09 04:47 PM   #124 
  - Bullshit once again  MichaelHarris   Sep-17-09 06:03 PM   #125 
  - Umm, that post is still open, and the quote you re-burped above only  Sinistrous   Sep-18-09 11:13 PM   #134 
  - No  Why Syzygy   Sep-19-09 09:06 AM   #135 
     - How silly of me. Since Mr. Harris was replying to tiptoe, I foolishly  Sinistrous   Sep-19-09 10:38 AM   #136 
        - Um.  Why Syzygy   Sep-19-09 11:19 AM   #137 
  - Reading to the end of the excerpt reveals the following:  laughingliberal   Oct-25-09 03:07 PM   #141 
     - Not revealed (or source cited): A *safety factor of 3* underlies the proposed new TUIL of 10000 IU/d  tiptoe   Nov-10-09 05:36 PM   #147 
  - Disease Incidence Prevention by Serum 25(OH)D Level --Cancers, Diabetes, MS, Fractures, HeartAttacks  tiptoe   Oct-23-09 05:02 PM   #138 
  - My my my look at all the ignored... I'll start another thread and  HysteryDiagnosis   Sep-17-09 06:56 PM   #131 
  - We've got a new  Why Syzygy   Sep-17-09 07:26 PM   #132 
     - Dog whistles could be misconstrued for a sales "pitch". HEH!! n/t  HysteryDiagnosis   Sep-18-09 06:50 PM   #133 
  - University of Maryland Medical Center  laughingliberal   Oct-24-09 02:29 PM   #140 
  - Thanks for this!! n/t  Celebration   Nov-02-09 09:16 PM   #146 
  - Safety & two MD's general recommendations: "How Much Vitamin D Should I Take?"  tiptoe   Oct-31-09 09:51 AM   #143 
  - We're locking this.  pinto   Nov-22-09 04:10 PM   #148 
 

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