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Mon Apr-27-09 01:45 AM
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| 84. I guess it's oencouraging that they used a complex computer rather than a simple one. nt |
| -Myths, FAQ, "...Vitamin D: A Real Missing Link..." Prescription=D2 vs D3, Testing, Optimal Ranges |
tiptoe |
Jan-06-09 07:31 AM |
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Excellent information |
Richard D |
Jan-06-09 09:25 AM |
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Sounds like Doctors/Shills peddling pills for Big Pharma |
cosmik debris |
Jan-06-09 09:43 AM |
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If someone posted a drug ad from Merck in here they'd be drawn & quartered. |
trotsky |
Jan-06-09 10:52 AM |
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Well, |
cosmik debris |
Jan-06-09 11:55 AM |
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And it's played out just like every other scam. |
trotsky |
Jan-06-09 12:30 PM |
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And then there's this |
itsjustme |
Jan-06-09 02:20 PM |
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Ooh, so close! |
trotsky |
Jan-06-09 02:53 PM |
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well take whatever kind you want |
itsjustme |
Jan-06-09 03:17 PM |
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Thank you for dropping your erroneously-cited study. |
trotsky |
Jan-06-09 03:30 PM |
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what are you talking about? |
itsjustme |
Jan-06-09 03:36 PM |
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LMAO |
trotsky |
Jan-06-09 04:25 PM |
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uh, that is an approximation, only |
itsjustme |
Jan-06-09 04:39 PM |
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So you're arguing against the OP, then? |
trotsky |
Jan-06-09 05:55 PM |
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mr blur |
Apr-26-09 09:24 AM |
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Wow! We're selling "test kits" on DU now? When even labs don't have a standard? |
bluedawg12 |
Apr-27-09 02:05 PM |
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Sunshine |
Mamacrat |
Apr-07-09 10:25 AM |
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thank you! great links nt |
tiptoe |
Jan-06-09 08:58 PM |
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"The important finding is that 1000 units/day couldn't get the Vitamin D level above 30ng/ml." |
tiptoe |
Jan-06-09 04:03 PM |
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another...study...opposite conclusion: "Vitamin D2 Is Much Less Effective than Vitamin D3 in Humans" |
tiptoe |
Jan-06-09 04:18 PM |
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Cripes, if you folks actually read what you posted this forum wouldn't be half as fun. |
trotsky |
Jan-06-09 04:28 PM |
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"The important finding is that 1000 units/day couldn't get the Vitamin D level above 30ng/ml." nt |
tiptoe |
Jan-06-09 05:26 PM |
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Four years newer, specifically addressed. n/t |
trotsky |
Jan-06-09 05:57 PM |
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"it does not provide a basis for assuming that vitamin D2 has equivalency with vitamin D3 wrt cancer |
tiptoe |
Jan-06-09 07:28 PM |
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You can re-quote your own posts as much as you'd like. |
trotsky |
Jan-06-09 07:41 PM |
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One tip off that this whole thing was bogus |
cosmik debris |
Jan-06-09 08:42 PM |
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and |
MichaelHarris |
Sep-17-09 06:14 PM |
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"You came in here basically copying & pasting an ad from a supplement store." An example of pricing |
tiptoe |
Jan-06-09 08:52 PM |
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I will continue my "ROFL-ing"... |
trotsky |
Jan-07-09 07:01 AM |
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a peer reviewed opinion breast cancer risk and VitD- sadly no. |
bluedawg12 |
Apr-27-09 02:17 PM |
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VitD and endometiral cancer? Sadly, not proven to help. |
bluedawg12 |
Apr-27-09 02:23 PM |
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VitD and general health improvment for women? Nope. |
bluedawg12 |
Apr-27-09 02:28 PM |
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Above = 400IU VitD3 & serum not "biologically meaningful", but @ 1100 IU, serum 25(OH)D>80nm/L =Yep! |
tiptoe |
Apr-28-09 05:01 PM |
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Thank you for your efforts and posts. nt |
Why Syzygy |
Apr-28-09 11:06 PM |
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C. Garland: "The definitive study..." => "Vitamin D & calcium supplementation reduces cancer risk" |
tiptoe |
Apr-27-09 05:44 PM |
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only 400 IU of vitamin D(3) ...See #92. nt |
tiptoe |
Apr-27-09 07:27 PM |
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Studies show Vit D is in premenopausal women, This study about postmenopausal woman. |
snagglepuss |
Oct-25-09 05:51 PM |
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Sep-17-09 06:13 PM |
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OP: "reference range...begins at 32 (ng/ml)..." nt |
tiptoe |
Jan-06-09 06:08 PM |
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OP: “…1000 IU/d of…D3…when patients are below the reference range [is] inadequate” nt |
tiptoe |
Jan-06-09 06:09 PM |
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Do you really think..... n/t |
trotsky |
Jan-06-09 06:10 PM |
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...that putting a different phrase for a Subject... n/t |
trotsky |
Jan-06-09 06:10 PM |
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...in a series of replies... n/t |
trotsky |
Jan-06-09 06:11 PM |
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...makes some kind of special point? n/t |
trotsky |
Jan-06-09 06:11 PM |
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When it's useful information, yes, unlike your "stuff". nt |
tiptoe |
Jan-06-09 06:14 PM |
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I suppose. |
trotsky |
Jan-06-09 06:26 PM |
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you're |
MichaelHarris |
Sep-17-09 06:18 PM |
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! rofl n/t |
uppityperson |
Jan-07-09 01:32 AM |
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Thank you and cd for noticing. |
uppityperson |
Jan-06-09 02:41 PM |
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It was easy to tell that this was bogus |
cosmik debris |
Jan-06-09 03:55 PM |
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threads like this |
MichaelHarris |
Sep-17-09 06:08 PM |
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That would be HRC, but Obama smartly neutralized her utility to Big Pharma vs People's Healthcare nt |
tiptoe |
Jan-06-09 09:23 PM |
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Too late, you're cover is blown |
cosmik debris |
Jan-06-09 09:28 PM |
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Those of us with MS are familiar with, |
mr blur |
Mar-24-09 03:16 AM |
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There is eivdence of VitD deficiency in people with MS |
bluedawg12 |
Apr-27-09 02:41 PM |
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Huh? Vitamin D Is Cheap And Available Without Prescription |
MannyGoldstein |
Jun-11-09 08:18 PM |
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interesting info! |
BuddhaGirl |
Jan-06-09 04:15 PM |
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Yikes! Why so much? |
quantessd |
Jan-06-09 04:55 PM |
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4000 IU isn't toxic |
BuddhaGirl |
Jan-06-09 06:21 PM |
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I know what you mean about not getting enough sunlight. |
quantessd |
Jan-06-09 09:09 PM |
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Maybe you already have the answers, but re your combo pills for vitamin D (from the FAQ): |
tiptoe |
Jan-06-09 10:32 PM |
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Thanks. Now I have a better idea which Calcium supplements |
quantessd |
Jan-06-09 11:54 PM |
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Check out the last 3 minutes of this video-lecture: Mentioned is it's not just about "Calcium In" |
tiptoe |
Jan-07-09 12:38 AM |
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my doctor suggested i take 5000iu of D3 |
noiretextatique |
Jun-12-09 03:32 PM |
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you're |
MichaelHarris |
Sep-17-09 06:21 PM |
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More than 50% of this thread (on my screen) says "ignored". n/t |
4MoronicYears |
Jan-10-09 12:59 PM |
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Well, THAT is certainly telling. |
uppityperson |
Jan-10-09 01:23 PM |
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Absolutely |
4MoronicYears |
Jan-10-09 01:38 PM |
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I try to discuss, dispute, but not insult. |
uppityperson |
Jan-10-09 01:46 PM |
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No, my ignored was prone to ad hominem attacks.... they stressed |
4MoronicYears |
Jan-10-09 02:29 PM |
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I suspect my ignored on this page coincide with yours |
Chemisse |
Nov-02-09 04:55 AM |
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What a sad little statement. |
trotsky |
Jan-10-09 01:49 PM |
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Strangely enough, my screen says the same thing |
Orrex |
Mar-21-09 06:45 PM |
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People who overuse the ignore option likely have more serenity...but a decreasing IQ? |
wuvuj |
Apr-28-09 07:56 PM |
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Decreased IQ's are associated with low D3 levels.... I'm pretty |
HysteryDiagnosis |
Oct-24-09 01:50 PM |
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I will only ignore someone if they |
Chemisse |
Nov-02-09 04:59 AM |
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"Low Levels Of Vitamin D Link To Cognitive Problems In Older People" |
tiptoe |
Jan-30-09 01:42 AM |
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"Vitamin D helps control MS gene" -- D-deficiency, genetics & risk of MS...first evidence 2/5/2009 |
tiptoe |
Feb-08-09 11:45 AM |
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"The Truth About Vitamin D" - Text, 2/17/09 chat w Dr. Anthony Komaroff, M.D, Harvard Medical School |
tiptoe |
Feb-18-09 11:33 AM |
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Vitamin D Toxicity: Caveat Emptor |
dropkickpa |
Feb-18-09 12:57 PM |
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"Vitamin D2 Toxicity: Caveat Emptor"(!) Confusion of Vitamin D2 and D3 in article? |
tiptoe |
Feb-18-09 05:42 PM |
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600,000 IU a day? |
aquart |
Apr-26-09 06:46 PM |
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Study of 87 Arab-American women: Dangerously-low 8.5-to-4ng/mL serum Vitamin D. (Ref = 32-100) |
tiptoe |
Feb-19-09 02:01 PM |
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Religion attacks women in so many stealthy ways. |
aquart |
Apr-26-09 06:47 PM |
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American Academy of Pediatrics has doubled its daily dose recommendation of vitamin D in children |
tiptoe |
Feb-20-09 05:57 PM |
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I take 5000 IU of D3.... |
wuvuj |
Feb-26-09 07:39 PM |
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Great source. |
tabatha |
Feb-26-09 11:14 PM |
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Low vitamin D bad for teen heart heath |
tiptoe |
Mar-16-09 06:15 AM |
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"Valuing vitamin D" (Interview with Dr. Michael Holick) |
tiptoe |
Mar-21-09 04:44 PM |
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Latest study? |
wuvuj |
Mar-23-09 12:39 PM |
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Mar-22-09 04:30 PM |
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Cancer, Vitamin D, and Sunshine |
tiptoe |
Mar-31-09 02:53 PM |
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Updated Position Statement on Vitamin D Issued by the American Academy of Dermatology - Sept 9 2009 |
tiptoe |
Sep-09-09 07:15 PM |
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Thanks for posting this info |
JustCommonSense |
Mar-31-09 08:49 PM |
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"...outrageous": Researchers who touted high vitamin D doses shut out of panel |
tiptoe |
Apr-06-09 09:48 PM |
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Links to above article, comments and Vieth slide presentation: |
tiptoe |
Apr-24-09 07:58 PM |
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Vitamin D Deficiency Linked to Increased C-Section Rate |
tiptoe |
Apr-12-09 06:15 AM |
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"That is really just a theory at this point. We definitely haven't identified a causal pathway." |
uppityperson |
Apr-12-09 03:26 PM |
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Webcast, April 22, 9AM PDT: Media advisory/Interview opportunity- Vitamin D: the new wonder vitamin? |
tiptoe |
Apr-22-09 02:03 AM |
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Thank you for all this information |
cbc5g |
Apr-26-09 09:17 AM |
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"75% of deaths from these cancers could be prevented with adequate intake of vitamin D3 and calcium" |
tiptoe |
Apr-24-09 08:23 PM |
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So has anyone ever confirmed their model is accurate for anything? |
stray cat |
Apr-26-09 06:42 PM |
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Vitamin D also affects pain. |
aquart |
Apr-26-09 06:44 PM |
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I guess it's oencouraging that they used a complex computer rather than a simple one. nt |
caseymoz |
Apr-27-09 01:45 AM |
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"What If Vitamin D Deficiency Is a Cause of Autism?" -- Scientific American, April 24, 2009 |
tiptoe |
Apr-26-09 08:35 AM |
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If this study was looking at all of MN then they are probably incorrect. |
jwirr |
Apr-26-09 09:53 AM |
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I see we have a new miracle dietary fad in progress. |
caseymoz |
Apr-27-09 01:42 AM |
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Vitamin C is certainly THAT good. |
Cetacea |
May-25-09 02:08 PM |
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Oh, right! Life from the sun is....just a fad |
kimmerspixelated |
Jul-08-09 04:25 PM |
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Vitamin D hope in prostate cancer -- April 26, 2009, BBC News |
tiptoe |
Apr-27-09 11:37 AM |
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There is always hope and a need for more workand research. |
bluedawg12 |
Apr-27-09 02:50 PM |
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"The point is this: men with prostate cancer should not allow themselves to be Vit D deficient and |
tiptoe |
May-12-09 05:01 PM |
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Swine Flu Infection Symptoms and Vitamin D -- Can it help? |
tiptoe |
Apr-29-09 03:06 AM |
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Epidemic Influenza And Vitamin D -- J J Cannell |
tiptoe |
May-02-09 11:33 PM |
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"Am I Vitamin D Deficient?" ("What we recommend") -- John Cannell, MD, Vitamin D Council |
tiptoe |
May-06-09 05:14 PM |
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Vitamin D expert receives Linus Pauling Prize for Health Research (Dr. Michael Holick) |
tiptoe |
May-25-09 11:58 AM |
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Link for full text of above press release |
tiptoe |
May-26-09 04:28 AM |
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H1N1 Flu and Vitamin D (What to do re the possibility of an H1N1 flu pandemic) -- Dr. John Cannell |
tiptoe |
May-25-09 12:57 PM |
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WHO on verge of declaring H1N1 flu pandemic - x |
tiptoe |
Jun-10-09 11:07 AM |
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WHO raises flu pandemic to highest level - x ("first global epidemic since 1968") |
tiptoe |
Jun-11-09 12:02 PM |
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"Successful Weight Loss With Dieting Is Linked To Vitamin D Levels" |
tiptoe |
Jun-11-09 07:52 PM |
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Jun-11-09 08:20 PM |
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Thanks tiptoe! You are relentless :) nt |
glitch |
Jun-11-09 08:24 PM |
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S Hemisphere Mutation detected: "South America bears winter brunt of H1N1 pandemic" |
tiptoe |
Jun-17-09 12:05 PM |
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CDC rejects report of mutant H1N1 strain in Brazil |
tiptoe |
Jun-17-09 10:55 PM |
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"Breathe Right: The Surprising Link between Asthma and Vitamin D" |
tiptoe |
Jul-08-09 01:12 PM |
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System and Tissue Distribution of Vitamin D Receptors (VDR) |
tiptoe |
Jun-22-09 12:18 PM |
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"Vitamin D Testing: What the Government Giveth, It Taketh Away" |
tiptoe |
Jul-08-09 01:56 PM |
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"Noteworthy News — Proposed Restrictions on Vitamin D Testing" |
tiptoe |
Jul-08-09 03:00 PM |
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Estimated benefit of increased Vit D status in reducing the economic burden of disease in W Europe |
tiptoe |
Jul-08-09 04:04 PM |
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PDF (full article) here: |
tiptoe |
Jul-08-09 05:17 PM |
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How Vitamin D Reduces the Incidence of Cancer: The DINOMIT Model (vid) |
tiptoe |
Jul-22-09 12:36 AM |
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Low maternal vitamin D increases risk of HIV transmission to child and infant mortality |
tiptoe |
Aug-17-09 05:04 PM |
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Letter from Dr J Cannell: "Vitamin D is incredibly protective against H1N1" -- New Evidence, 9/17/09 |
tiptoe |
Sep-17-09 04:47 PM |
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Bullshit once again |
MichaelHarris |
Sep-17-09 06:03 PM |
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Umm, that post is still open, and the quote you re-burped above only |
Sinistrous |
Sep-18-09 11:13 PM |
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No |
Why Syzygy |
Sep-19-09 09:06 AM |
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How silly of me. Since Mr. Harris was replying to tiptoe, I foolishly |
Sinistrous |
Sep-19-09 10:38 AM |
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Um. |
Why Syzygy |
Sep-19-09 11:19 AM |
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Reading to the end of the excerpt reveals the following: |
laughingliberal |
Oct-25-09 03:07 PM |
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Not revealed (or source cited): A *safety factor of 3* underlies the proposed new TUIL of 10000 IU/d |
tiptoe |
Nov-10-09 05:36 PM |
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Disease Incidence Prevention by Serum 25(OH)D Level --Cancers, Diabetes, MS, Fractures, HeartAttacks |
tiptoe |
Oct-23-09 05:02 PM |
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My my my look at all the ignored... I'll start another thread and |
HysteryDiagnosis |
Sep-17-09 06:56 PM |
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We've got a new |
Why Syzygy |
Sep-17-09 07:26 PM |
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Dog whistles could be misconstrued for a sales "pitch". HEH!! n/t |
HysteryDiagnosis |
Sep-18-09 06:50 PM |
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University of Maryland Medical Center |
laughingliberal |
Oct-24-09 02:29 PM |
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Thanks for this!! n/t |
Celebration |
Nov-02-09 09:16 PM |
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Safety & two MD's general recommendations: "How Much Vitamin D Should I Take?" |
tiptoe |
Oct-31-09 09:51 AM |
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We're locking this. |
pinto |
Nov-22-09 04:10 PM |
#148 |
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