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dtotire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 07:33 PM
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11. Read how it's done in other countries
Edited on Sun Aug-10-08 07:39 PM by dtotire
This program from PBS shows how health care is provided in five other countries: ... /

You should also review the interviews with the experts on the different systems.

This is from the interview with the expert on the German system:

The German health care system is unique in its attempt to combine competition among sickness funds on the one hand and a universal coverage plan on the other hand. Most health care systems are either one or the other, so you either have private insurance and competition but not everyone is covered for everything, or you have a single-payer system. So the ideal types are like the American system on the one hand or the Scandinavian or U.K. systems on the other end.
Germany tries to combine the advantages. Everyone is covered; all sickness funds have to provide a comprehensive benefit package; ... and there is nevertheless competition for price and quality between the sickness funds. ...

Are there then rankings ... by size or number of members and stuff like that?

Yes, there is ranking for contribution rate, so the cheaper sickness funds good quality can both advertise their better quality plus their lower contribution rates and therefore gaining members. We had about 240 sickness funds a couple of months ago; we are now down to 213, I think. In two or three years, only 50 or so will survive.

Adopting the Federal system (with some modifications) would make our health care system similar to Germany.
The German system has been adopted in many other countries in Western Europe.

That link didn't work. Try this one: /

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  -Another Method to Achieve Universal Health Insurance dtotire  Aug-09-08 09:56 AM   #0 
  - My mother has SAMBA has been totally great. They had  snappyturtle   Aug-09-08 10:57 AM   #1 
  - A value-added tax does NOT mean that the poor "wouldn't have to pay anything"  Lydia Leftcoast   Aug-09-08 10:50 PM   #2 
  - VAT  dtotire   Aug-10-08 12:00 PM   #6 
     - It's still regressive  Lydia Leftcoast   Aug-10-08 01:28 PM   #8 
        - Food would not be subject to a VAT  dtotire   Aug-10-08 07:52 PM   #12 
  - Insurance companies will oppoae ANY attempt to limit their cherrypicking  eridani   Aug-10-08 07:23 AM   #3 
  - cherrypicking  dtotire   Aug-10-08 11:47 AM   #5 
     - And that is exactly why the insurance companies will refuse to go along with it  eridani   Aug-11-08 08:23 AM   #14 
  - It's still insurance which is not acceptable  supernova   Aug-10-08 09:21 AM   #4 
  - The Insurance Companies will be strictly regulated  dtotire   Aug-10-08 12:47 PM   #7 
     - Insurance companies that operate in Minnesota are required to be non-profit, BUT  Lydia Leftcoast   Aug-10-08 01:32 PM   #9 
     - You are relying on the insurance cos  supernova   Aug-10-08 02:25 PM   #10 
        - Read how it's done in other countries  dtotire   Aug-10-08 07:33 PM   #11 
           - I've already seen the FRONTLINE  supernova   Aug-10-08 08:17 PM   #13 
  - nice try... good that people are looking at options because  nightrain   Aug-12-08 10:56 AM   #15 

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