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Thu Feb-28-08 06:16 AM
Response to Reply #53 |
| 59. What a sad, paranoid life you must lead. |
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I'm sorry you don't understand how vaccines work, or how they're made, or why they're necessary.
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| -Government Concedes Vaccine-Autism Case in Federal Court - Now What? |
itsjustme |
Feb-25-08 11:53 PM |
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Shit, this is huge. |
jgraz |
Feb-26-08 12:09 AM |
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This was quietly conceded? |
Journalgrrl |
Feb-26-08 12:56 AM |
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I def always thought the shots triggered something with my daughter |
K8-EEE |
Feb-26-08 12:59 AM |
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You're likely going to deserve some more dimes on this thread, |
motocicleta |
Feb-26-08 02:19 AM |
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Do you wanna know the truth about the chicken pox vaccine?? |
truedelphi |
Feb-26-08 03:08 AM |
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I almost died from chicken pox as a kid |
dropkickpa |
Feb-27-08 08:15 AM |
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How many children has this concession just condemned to death? |
TheMadMonk |
Feb-26-08 07:08 AM |
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Bravo. |
trotsky |
Feb-26-08 07:24 AM |
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Shades of Michael Clayton, the same people post the same pro-Pharma stuff |
K8-EEE |
Feb-26-08 10:25 PM |
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I *have* done my research. |
trotsky |
Feb-27-08 07:03 AM |
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Smart doctor. Concerns about the vaccine wearing off are becoming more abundant. |
mzmolly |
Feb-29-08 07:41 PM |
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It may well save some children. |
Jim__ |
Feb-26-08 07:43 AM |
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For years they screamed about the "toxin" Thimerosol. |
Warpy |
Feb-26-08 05:14 PM |
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That's not so. The issue with MMR was NEVER mercury. |
mzmolly |
Feb-29-08 06:43 PM |
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benefits of vaccines |
itsjustme |
Feb-26-08 07:52 AM |
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I am simply using my best recolection of figures cited by others. |
TheMadMonk |
Feb-26-08 09:22 AM |
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I'd question your claim that, "in all cases the conclusion has been the same" |
Jim__ |
Feb-26-08 09:51 AM |
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CDC figures |
itsjustme |
Feb-26-08 10:02 AM |
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Perhaps the figure I recall is for historical (or worldwide) averages. |
TheMadMonk |
Feb-26-08 03:28 PM |
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"Between the various diseases vaccinated against, the mortality (ie. dead kid, dead kid, DEAD KID) |
motocicleta |
Feb-27-08 12:46 AM |
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BWAH HA HA HA |
trotsky |
Feb-27-08 09:29 AM |
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That's odd. |
motocicleta |
Feb-27-08 10:30 AM |
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Hilarious! |
trotsky |
Feb-27-08 10:44 AM |
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You may not have gotten the memo. |
motocicleta |
Feb-27-08 06:52 PM |
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What a sad, paranoid life you must lead. |
trotsky |
Feb-28-08 06:16 AM |
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It makes you wonder what it is like |
cosmik debris |
Feb-28-08 08:01 AM |
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Mine mistake. I was thinking of third world/pre-industial mortality... |
TheMadMonk |
Feb-27-08 08:43 PM |
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Thanks! about the genome. |
motocicleta |
Feb-28-08 12:17 AM |
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Civil Rights come with Civic RESPONSIBILITIES. |
TheMadMonk |
Feb-28-08 03:56 AM |
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You should re-read my posts - there is no 'hate', |
motocicleta |
Feb-29-08 12:38 AM |
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O.K. my numbers are wrong. FOR POPULATIONS. |
TheMadMonk |
Feb-29-08 02:51 AM |
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You nailed it. |
trotsky |
Feb-29-08 07:19 AM |
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I am big on meaningful numbers because |
motocicleta |
Mar-02-08 12:54 AM |
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My stats may be wrong, but i believe they are within the ballpark. |
TheMadMonk |
Mar-02-08 10:14 AM |
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Well, at least I have helped you refine your facts. |
motocicleta |
Mar-03-08 01:58 AM |
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That's generally the way it goes with me. |
TheMadMonk |
Mar-03-08 06:22 PM |
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Just love the "Children of a Lesser God" reference. |
TheMadMonk |
Feb-28-08 05:02 AM |
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Great freakin' post... |
SidDithers |
Feb-27-08 08:48 AM |
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Pretty amazing what some people will make of a paper they've never seen |
jberryhill |
Feb-26-08 07:46 AM |
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I cannot believe the vitriol on this topic. Folks, this is a decision by a Master Panel of experts.. |
arendt |
Feb-26-08 07:47 AM |
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I'm with you! |
itsjustme |
Feb-26-08 08:02 AM |
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And, I'm with you. Its not black-and-white, either-or... |
arendt |
Feb-26-08 08:11 AM |
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Experts for the plaintif and for the defence are demonstrably biased. |
TheMadMonk |
Feb-26-08 08:19 AM |
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Since no one knows what causes autism or what the mechanism is... |
arendt |
Feb-26-08 12:48 PM |
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Because some cases of autism can be attributed to a physical brain... |
TheMadMonk |
Feb-26-08 03:05 PM |
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Why are you so interested in "blame"? Blame is a value judgment; not a scientific one... |
arendt |
Feb-26-08 03:13 PM |
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Excuse me! I am not the one BLAMING vaccines in the absence... |
TheMadMonk |
Feb-26-08 04:06 PM |
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I have no intention of arguing with a fanatic like you. This is simply not my issue... |
arendt |
Feb-26-08 04:10 PM |
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Fanatical? Yup. Fanatical about not killing children through ignorance... |
TheMadMonk |
Feb-26-08 06:35 PM |
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MadMonk is EXTREMELY pro-PHARMA! |
K8-EEE |
Feb-27-08 10:29 AM |
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He's pro-pharma to the point of being anti-science, IMHO. n/t |
arendt |
Feb-27-08 03:09 PM |
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Good old ad hominem |
chicagomd |
Feb-27-08 03:18 PM |
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Want to read my last two paragraphs mate? |
TheMadMonk |
Feb-27-08 03:36 PM |
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evidence based arguments my ass! |
cosmik debris |
Feb-27-08 04:50 PM |
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Exactly. "I know what I know. I don't need no steenkin' facts." |
TheMadMonk |
Feb-27-08 08:16 PM |
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Oh I believe it. It happens every time and IMO |
K8-EEE |
Feb-26-08 10:26 PM |
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Some people here continually dismiss any concern with any vaccine and equate them |
mzmolly |
Feb-29-08 06:59 PM |
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Hell my dogs don't get that many |
newfie11 |
Feb-26-08 09:55 AM |
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Now what, indeed? |
chicagomd |
Feb-26-08 02:48 PM |
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This may be an independent confirmation of the case. |
Jim__ |
Feb-26-08 03:20 PM |
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Thanks! |
chicagomd |
Feb-26-08 05:35 PM |
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You mention a very important phrase. |
trotsky |
Feb-26-08 06:04 PM |
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what is autism? |
itsjustme |
Feb-26-08 06:37 PM |
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Those are Kirby's words. |
trotsky |
Feb-26-08 06:46 PM |
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parsing words maybe |
itsjustme |
Feb-26-08 06:57 PM |
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I have reason to believe that the author is financially motivated |
trotsky |
Feb-26-08 07:02 PM |
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Frist, of course, |
chicagomd |
Feb-26-08 07:29 PM |
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The full text is linked... |
chicagomd |
Feb-26-08 07:26 PM |
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I will be as calm as possible about this question, and I pray you can do the same. |
motocicleta |
Feb-29-08 02:06 AM |
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Pray all you want. |
trotsky |
Feb-29-08 07:16 AM |
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Mar-02-08 12:56 AM |
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Because some children will definitely die or be permanently affected... |
TheMadMonk |
Mar-01-08 04:17 AM |
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Why does it matter what we call the damage? |
mzmolly |
Feb-29-08 07:13 PM |
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It matters not at all. |
TheMadMonk |
Mar-01-08 06:18 AM |
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Thanks for the response. |
mzmolly |
Mar-01-08 04:27 PM |
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I was not suggesting that YOU advocated the stopping of vaccination. |
TheMadMonk |
Mar-01-08 10:56 PM |
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Darn, just lost a long thoughtful reply to you. |
mzmolly |
Mar-02-08 04:27 PM |
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I know the feeling. |
TheMadMonk |
Mar-03-08 03:41 PM |
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Making an educated guess on who you're arguing with, |
trotsky |
Mar-03-08 05:09 PM |
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Turns out, I do have some time to reply this evening. |
mzmolly |
Mar-03-08 08:28 PM |
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"Wouldn't it be fantastic..." |
mzmolly |
Feb-29-08 06:31 PM |
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Oh, Kirby wrote it. |
varkam |
Feb-26-08 06:44 PM |
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Anti vaccine whackjob makes up court case |
rinsd |
Feb-27-08 02:26 PM |
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It's amazing how many "free loading fear mongers" will fight AGAINST SAFER vaccines. |
mzmolly |
Feb-29-08 06:05 PM |
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This non-story is sure to be overplayed by the anti-vax crowd |
Orrex |
Mar-04-08 09:48 PM |
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I would expect a more honest report from a true skeptic. |
Jim__ |
Mar-05-08 08:21 AM |
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