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24. There are over 100 HPV virus. Approximattely 40 are transmitted
Edited on Tue Jul-03-07 05:47 PM by notadmblnd
sexually... oh hell.. here's my research paper on it. don't be too hard on me. It's my first.

The Human Papillomavirus is the name of a group of viruses that includes nearly 200 different strains or types. Approximately 40 of these viruses can be transmitted sexually. Of these 40 viruses, two types cause 90 percent of genital warts cases and experts suspect there may be as many as 15 to 20 types that can cause cervical cancer. They are called papilloma viruses because certain types may cause warts, or papillomas, which are benign tumors. The HPVs that cause the common warts which grow on hands and feet are different from those that cause growths in the throat or genital area. Some types of genital HPV are associated with certain types of cancer. These are called high-risk carcinogenic HPVs. Currently; there are four types of HPV <16, 18, 31 and 45> that account for 80 percent of all cervical cancers in 22 countries. (PATH:Alliance for Cervical Cancer Prevention 4).
Genital HPVs can be passed through sexual contact by both men and women. This includes vaginal, anal and orally, they can infect the genital area of men and women including the skin of the penis, vulva , or anus, and include the linings of the vagina, cervix, or rectum. Most people who become infected with HPV will not have any symptoms and the infection clears up on its own ( Detection of HPV in women is primarily done through annual Pap tests which can point out abnormalities or changes in the cervix. There is also a specific test available to detect the virus in women over 30, and even though researchers believe that infection with HPV may be a risk factor for penile cancer and research is ongoing (, there are currently no tests that detect HPV in men (
HPVs are very common and can be spread by coming in contact with the lesions. However, the genital HPVs that can cause cancer can not be transmitted by casual contact with others; the virus must be active, and intimate contact with the infected genital area must occur. Because the lesions can be located outside the area that a condom covers, they are not considered effective in preventing the transmission of the disease.

Although cervical cancer is one of the most common cancers in women, it is an
uncommon disease. It occurs mostly in women over 40 and may spread throughout the body eventually causing death. However, if detected early, it can be completely cured (AMA Family Medical Guide 611).
In June of 2006 the US Food and Drug Administration approved the first vaccine against four types of HPV. Mercks Gardasil for women ages nine to 26 and has been added to the Centers for Disease Control and Preventions recommended immunization schedule for girls ages 11 and 12. The CDC has also recommended catch-up vaccinations for girls and women ages 13 to 26 ( Experts in the pharmaceutical and medical fields are touting the efficacy and safety record of the vaccine and are advocating for mandatory immunization in several states. The Gardasil vaccine provides for immunization for four types of HPV, 16 and 18, which cause 70 percent of cervical cancer, and six and 11, which cause 90 percent of genital warts. However, this is a drug that has been on the market for less than a year, and studies conducted on women in the US have been limited in both numbers of women who have had the vaccine , and in duration of time that those women have been tracked. Although experts have reported no adverse effects associated with the vaccine in clinical trials, there could be incidences of severe adverse effects once the vaccine is given out to millions and millions of women ( In fact, a recent report obtained from the FDA under the Freedom of Information Act by the group Judicial Watch states there have been over 1600 incidences of adverse affects ranging from
not serious to serious , and three reported deaths
(VAERS Line List report 1339, 1340, 1393; Side effects published by Merck & Co. warn the public about potential pain, fever, nausea, dizziness and itching after receiving the vaccine ( But other more serious side effects reported include paralysis, Bells Palsy, Guillain-Barre Syndrome, and seizures.
In a February 27, 2007 interview conducted by Judy Woodruff on the PBS program Newshour with Dr. Ralph Anderson, chairman of the obstetrics and gynecology department at the University of North Texas Health Center and an advocate for mandated vaccines for girls as young as nine, had this to say, we have roughly 10,000 new cases of cancer of the cervix per year in this country, and we have approximately 4,000 deaths from cancer of the cervix. ( In the same PBS Newshour interview with Wendy Wright, a spokesperson for the conservative group Concerned Women for America, who counters the argument for the urgent need to mandate the vaccine, points out, need to take a second look at the vaccine itself. Pointing out that the vaccine has been tested, she says, but in those trials people were pre-screened. People with medical conditions werent included in it. By mandating virtually the entire population of young girls, would have to get it. She then goes on to compare the number of cases of cervical cancer deaths to the number of deaths caused by the flu annually, saying,
about a little less than 4,000 women a year die from cervical cancer. About 36,000 people a year die from the flu, but we dont mandate that each person get a flu vaccine. (
The vaccine is administered intramuscularly through a shot in the arm. Its given in a series of three doses. The first dose administered, the second dose two months from the first, and the last dose administered six months from the first. It is not known how long the effectiveness of the vaccine will last or if women will need to undergo boosters or another series of immunizations in the future.
Dr. Anne Schuchat M.D., director for the Centers for Disease control and Preventions national Center for Immunization and Respiratory Disease, in a series titled Ask the Experts, a web based informational program of and sponsored by the Kaiser Family Foundation, offers this as an answer when asked in a January 10, 2007 interview, Why not boys? the evidence base that we had at the time of the recommendations did not extend to boys and men, and so the company is studying the vaccine in men right now and were looking forward to seeing the results of those studies, but we dont yet have effectiveness studies out in men. So there is not a recommendation that can be science based. (; transcript, ask the Experts 7). Dr. Schuchat also tells us that pre-pubescent girls are the target because, we dont know how long this vaccine is going to protect for. The studies so far have followed some people as long as five years, and they are intended to go out to 10 to15 years, but were trying to protect girls and women for many, many years and if we were to start at age two months, thats asking quite a lot of the vaccine, so one of the things
that will be studied after the vaccine is in wider use, is the duration of protection and whether we need to add a booster in the future at some point. (; transcript, ask the Experts 8). In other words, the experts just dont know what the long term effects of the vaccine are or whether there will even be long lasting benefits.
Cost is another concern; the vaccine runs between 300.00 and 400.00 dollars for the series of injections not including the Dr. fee and cost of administering the injections. If the immunizations are mandated the states will have to fund programs for the poor and low income and will create a hefty windfall for the pharmaceutical company.
The Food and Drug Administration gave it Fast Track approval last June after phase II studies showed promise. Gardasil was evaluated and approved in six months under FDAs priority review processa process for products with potential to provide significant health benefits (, and lobbyists for the pharmaceutical company Merck had been lobbying not only to make the drug available, but to make Gardasil mandatory for all 11-12 year old girls. Merck, one of the worlds largest pharmaceutical companies had been hoping to reap billions of dollars from Gardasil as every child overage 9 are potential customers for the expensive injections. However, revelations of money trails and the rush to make the vaccine mandatory created a backlash and forced Merck, on February 20th, 2007, to publicly end its lobbying efforts for mandatory vaccination of school girls (
Finally, the moral implications of mandatory immunizations for sexually transmitted disease need to be considered. Conservative groups will argue once again
that this will give our children permission to become promiscuous instead of advocating abstinence outside of marriage.
As with any new d rug, parents need to be able to evaluate the risks against the benefits. Currently, the information provided by both health officials and pharmaceutical companies is not conclusive, some is downright contradictory. The incidence of death from cervical cancer is low in comparison to other diseases such as the flu and even with the vaccine, annual Pap tests will still be necessary for the prevention and treatment of cervical cancer. More study of the long term effects on our children is needed before we allow the states to mandate this vaccine. There is no urgent need for the safety of the public health and the decision to immunize our girls should for now, be left up to the parents.
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  -Facts about Gardisil FitzmasAgain  Jul-03-07 04:27 PM   #0 
  - I sure would NOT recommend it  CountAllVotes   Jul-03-07 04:30 PM   #1 
  - superstitious hogwash.  xchrom   Jul-03-07 04:36 PM   #2 
  - There are so many things wrong with your post  FitzmasAgain   Jul-03-07 04:44 PM   #6 
  - phylis schlafly is a woman also --  xchrom   Jul-03-07 04:54 PM   #11 
  - Robert Kennedy Junior is a man who shares my views as well, what's your point?  mzmolly   Jul-04-07 10:45 AM   #46 
     - RFK Jr does not live in my vagina  dropkickpa   Jul-04-07 12:39 PM   #67 
        - I was responding to an idiotic comment by another poster. HOWEVER,  mzmolly   Jul-04-07 12:49 PM   #69 
           - I've read most of the studies in their entirety  dropkickpa   Jul-04-07 12:53 PM   #71 
              - I've read many of the studies as well, and yes, I "understood."  mzmolly   Jul-04-07 01:06 PM   #74 
                 - Vioxx  dropkickpa   Jul-04-07 01:21 PM   #76 
                    - Vioxx has much to do with how testing by Merck is conducted and shared with the public.  mzmolly   Jul-04-07 01:24 PM   #78 
  - I guess you must prefer her to get cancer then  alarimer   Jul-03-07 05:08 PM   #16 
     - I find it amusing that those who promote the vaccine here make stronger claims  mzmolly   Jul-04-07 10:46 AM   #47 
  - There are over 100 HPV virus. Approximattely 40 are transmitted  notadmblnd   Jul-03-07 05:46 PM   #24 
     - 90% -- more -- of cervical cancers are caused by just  xchrom   Jul-03-07 06:36 PM   #27 
        - Ditto buddy.  mzmolly   Jul-04-07 10:49 AM   #48 
           - Deleted message  Name removed   Jul-04-07 11:02 AM   #49 
              - Deleted message  Name removed   Jul-04-07 11:25 AM   #51 
                 - I'm curious about this notion that Gardasil will have side effects in 13 year olds...  Liberal Veteran   Jul-04-07 11:55 AM   #55 
                 - The "concern" is that nine year old girls may have different side effects than  mzmolly   Jul-04-07 11:59 AM   #57 
                    - Wow...isn't that an interesting tidbit I just uncovered.  Liberal Veteran   Jul-04-07 12:56 PM   #72 
                       - "Little" tid bit is right.  mzmolly   Jul-04-07 01:31 PM   #79 
                          - Now that makes some sense....NOT!  Liberal Veteran   Jul-04-07 01:52 PM   #80 
                          - Well then, lets stop giving the vaccine to anyone who's been active sexually?  mzmolly   Jul-04-07 02:03 PM   #83 
                             - How many? Give us a number you would be comfortable with?  Liberal Veteran   Jul-04-07 02:14 PM   #87 
                                - I would say if a vaccine is to be "mandated" the number differs for me than if it's  mzmolly   Jul-04-07 02:25 PM   #91 
                          - Also let's lay our cards on the table. I want a definitive answer from your.  Liberal Veteran   Jul-04-07 01:56 PM   #81 
                             - Actually, I defer to Ms. Harper on question number 1.  mzmolly   Jul-04-07 02:02 PM   #82 
                                - So....essentially, you have given non-answers.  Liberal Veteran   Jul-04-07 02:13 PM   #86 
                                   - Because Ms. Harper was one of the researchers who made the vaccine available.  mzmolly   Jul-04-07 02:27 PM   #93 
                                      - Is Ms. Harper anti-science, anti-women? n/t  antigop   Jul-04-07 06:01 PM   #98 
                                         - Why she MUST be, and anti-sex too!  mzmolly   Jul-04-07 08:21 PM   #100 
                 - your position is anti woman and sexist.  xchrom   Jul-04-07 11:57 AM   #56 
                    - Your position is @!#% LOONEY.  mzmolly   Jul-04-07 12:01 PM   #58 
                       - sometimes ignorance is funny -- and yours is very funny --  xchrom   Jul-04-07 12:11 PM   #61 
                          - Insanity is never funny,  mzmolly   Jul-04-07 12:13 PM   #62 
                             - see -- that's another way you try to misrepresent the facts.  xchrom   Jul-04-07 12:24 PM   #64 
                                - Bologna, you can be cultured for HPV as is recommended by some for women.  mzmolly   Jul-04-07 12:26 PM   #66 
                                   - you continue to post dangerous misrepresentations of  xchrom   Jul-04-07 02:25 PM   #90 
                                      - You hate anal cavities, you hate men, you hate penis's, you love  mzmolly   Jul-04-07 02:29 PM   #94 
                                         - but not more than you hate women -- your posts remain dangerous and sexist  xchrom   Jul-04-07 02:35 PM   #95 
                                            - No you're the dangerous and sexist posting phenom here.  mzmolly   Jul-04-07 02:37 PM   #96 
                                               - does my position keep men or boys from gardasil? no.  xchrom   Jul-04-07 04:13 PM   #97 
                                                  - My position doesn't keep anyone from anything.  mzmolly   Jul-04-07 08:20 PM   #99 
                                                     - your position is to deceive.  xchrom   Jul-05-07 07:13 AM   #102 
                                                     - your position is to deceive  mzmolly   Jul-05-07 11:44 AM   #104 
                                                     - see -- the great deception at the heart of it all right there.  xchrom   Jul-05-07 12:30 PM   #107 
                                                     - your deception is at the heart of this  mzmolly   Jul-05-07 05:32 PM   #109 
                                                     - buwhahahahahahaha!!! -- what the fuck are you talking about -- condoms?!?!  xchrom   Jul-05-07 05:43 PM   #111 
                                                     - lololololololo -- what the fuck are you talking about -- "brother?"  mzmolly   Jul-05-07 06:32 PM   #112 
                                                     - lol -- better and better --  xchrom   Jul-05-07 06:56 PM   #114 
                                                     - you didn't know that men could get hpv!?  mzmolly   Jul-05-07 07:07 PM   #116 
                                                     - you thought i was serious?!?!  xchrom   Jul-06-07 05:04 AM   #118 
                                                     - Deleted message  Name removed   Jul-06-07 10:00 AM   #120 
  - Do you have a REAL link or do you expect me to take a bloggers word for this?  Horse with no Name   Jul-03-07 04:37 PM   #3 
  - here you go  leftchick   Jul-03-07 04:46 PM   #7 
  - and more reasons here...  leftchick   Jul-03-07 04:50 PM   #8 
     - THANKS LEFTCHICK!  FitzmasAgain   Jul-03-07 04:56 PM   #12 
     - you are welcome  leftchick   Jul-03-07 05:00 PM   #14 
        - It is just as wrong to believe Bug Pharma is conducting some sort of conspiracy  alarimer   Jul-03-07 05:10 PM   #17 
           - are you for real?  leftchick   Jul-03-07 05:11 PM   #18 
           - It's a conspiracy to make money, that's what corporations do.  mzmolly   Jul-04-07 11:26 AM   #52 
     - the subjects were followed for 18 months?  DawgHouse   Jul-03-07 05:41 PM   #21 
     - yes it is  leftchick   Jul-03-07 05:45 PM   #23 
     - Who are you citing here? Vaccines are NOT drugs  turtlensue   Jul-03-07 06:10 PM   #26 
        - They go through the SAME APPROVAL PROCESS.  mzmolly   Jul-04-07 11:31 AM   #53 
  - From the British Journal of Medicine  FitzmasAgain   Jul-03-07 04:53 PM   #9 
     - Anyone who describes Judicial Watch as a public interest watchdog immediately loses credibitlity  rinsd   Jul-03-07 05:14 PM   #19 
     - You do realize that  dropkickpa   Jul-04-07 12:42 PM   #68 
  - Aw, geez...  dicksteele   Jul-03-07 04:40 PM   #4 
  - Like anyone is stupid enough to see that this blog  Horse with no Name   Jul-03-07 04:41 PM   #5 
  - Oh MY GOD....This eyewash is going to kill has Sodium Borate  bleedingheart   Jul-03-07 04:54 PM   #10 
  - lol -- you are so good!  xchrom   Jul-03-07 04:56 PM   #13 
  - thank you thank you...i will be in the lounge later...  bleedingheart   Jul-03-07 05:43 PM   #22 
  - Have you researched the aluminum adjuvant?  mzmolly   Jul-04-07 12:07 PM   #60 
     - Google depleted uranium and gulf war sydrome.  Liberal Veteran   Jul-04-07 01:01 PM   #73 
        - Google french solders and gulf war syndrome, the depleted uranium.  mzmolly   Jul-04-07 01:22 PM   #77 
           - Yes, yes....I have read the wiki entry also. I'm not impressed.  Liberal Veteran   Jul-04-07 02:04 PM   #84 
              - No, AH is significant no matter who has an injection  mzmolly   Jul-04-07 02:11 PM   #85 
                 - Have fun, but I'll pass on the journal.  Liberal Veteran   Jul-04-07 02:16 PM   #88 
                    - I don't know if you weren't familiar with MMF?  mzmolly   Jul-04-07 02:17 PM   #89 
  - Here is what you need to know about Gardasil  antigop   Jul-03-07 05:02 PM   #15 
  - here's another fact  notadmblnd   Jul-03-07 05:38 PM   #20 
  - okay more idiocy I see  turtlensue   Jul-03-07 06:01 PM   #25 
  - kicking your reply.  xchrom   Jul-03-07 06:39 PM   #28 
  - Ooo....real science.  Liberal Veteran   Jul-04-07 09:34 AM   #43 
  - "okay more idiocy I see" ... Indeed.  mzmolly   Jul-04-07 11:12 AM   #50 
  - So what part of the Gardasil approval letter don't people understand? n/t  antigop   Jul-03-07 07:16 PM   #29 
  - The part that compels you to repeatedly post the same thing, ad nauseum.  Liberal Veteran   Jul-03-07 07:47 PM   #30 
     - Right on cue. THank you again. You proved my point. n/t  antigop   Jul-03-07 08:16 PM   #34 
        - Uh.....yeah. That's what I did. (Backs away slowly)  Liberal Veteran   Jul-03-07 08:28 PM   #35 
           - HA! You don't even realize what you did. HA HA HA! n/t  antigop   Jul-03-07 08:31 PM   #37 
  - Gasp! The same Polysorbate 80 used in such poisons as ice cream and pickles????  Liberal Veteran   Jul-03-07 07:49 PM   #31 
  - Aw geez, not this shit again.  varkam   Jul-03-07 08:01 PM   #32 
  - Yes....again. I'm pretty much resigned to the notion that if...  Liberal Veteran   Jul-03-07 08:16 PM   #33 
     - BREAKING: Children vaccinated with angel kisses 500 times more likely to develop autism!  varkam   Jul-03-07 09:27 PM   #38 
  - JAMA editorial: The longer-term effectiveness and safety of the vaccine still need to be evaluated  antigop   Jul-03-07 08:30 PM   #36 
  - OMG Polysorbate 80!  depakid   Jul-04-07 03:05 AM   #39 
  - Is Dr. DeAngelis anti-science?  antigop   Jul-04-07 09:07 AM   #40 
  - Wow, you really have it out for this vaccine don't you?  Liberal Veteran   Jul-04-07 09:25 AM   #41 
     - No, I asked a simple question. And you didn't answer it. Please answer the question. n/t  antigop   Jul-04-07 09:31 AM   #42 
        - That's because your same "questions" have been answered about a dozen times.  Liberal Veteran   Jul-04-07 09:43 AM   #44 
           - No, my question has NOT been answered. Is Dr. DeAngelis anti-science? n/t  antigop   Jul-04-07 09:44 AM   #45 
           - Second question: Is Dr. DeAngelis anti-woman? n/t  antigop   Jul-04-07 11:51 AM   #54 
              - Yes, and anti-sex too.  mzmolly   Jul-04-07 12:02 PM   #59 
  - here's some real data for ya --  xchrom   Jul-04-07 12:18 PM   #63 
  - And your poor ass/penis remain vulnerable.  mzmolly   Jul-04-07 12:24 PM   #65 
     - HPV testing in men  dropkickpa   Jul-04-07 12:52 PM   #70 
     - It is in women too. And testing in men is underway.  mzmolly   Jul-04-07 01:19 PM   #75 
     - willfull ignorance and misreperesentation.  xchrom   Jul-04-07 02:27 PM   #92 
        - Not at all, you wish to mandate a vaccine for children when you wont have it yourself.  mzmolly   Jul-04-07 08:22 PM   #101 
           - your positon is deceptive and dangerous.  xchrom   Jul-05-07 07:16 AM   #103 
              - your position is hypocritical and dangerous  mzmolly   Jul-05-07 11:48 AM   #105 
                 - you try to chip away at good practises of public health -- why?  xchrom   Jul-05-07 12:21 PM   #106 
                    - You keep blathering idiotic insane nonsense, why?  mzmolly   Jul-05-07 05:26 PM   #108 
                       - lol -- gardasil is safe and working better than they thought.  xchrom   Jul-05-07 05:35 PM   #110 
                          - lol --- condoms are safe and they work better than Merck shills claim  mzmolly   Jul-05-07 06:40 PM   #113 
                             - so you love the radioactive pellets in your vagina or asshole?  xchrom   Jul-05-07 07:05 PM   #115 
                                - i'm sorry, but debating about hpv with a MAN who doesn't know he's at risk  mzmolly   Jul-05-07 07:15 PM   #117 
                                   - oh baby -- bring those rants ---  xchrom   Jul-06-07 05:30 AM   #119 
                                      - i am surprised you dare show your hypocritical head in this conversation?  mzmolly   Jul-06-07 10:04 AM   #121 
                                         - you mean leave the conversation to ''DUERS'' who  xchrom   Jul-06-07 11:36 AM   #122 
  - Locking  mvd   Jul-06-07 11:38 AM   #123 

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