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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-11 01:38 PM
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18. You may want to turn in the Israelis as well.... snake oil and all.
You can read, can't you?

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12455180

Isr Med Assoc J. 2002 Nov;4(11 Suppl) :919-22.
The effect of herbal remedies on the production of human inflammatory and anti-inflammatory cytokines.
Barak V, Birkenfeld S, Halperin T, Kalickman I.
Source

Immunology Laboratory for Tumor Diagnosis, Department of Oncology, Hadassah University Hospital, Jerusalem, Israel. barak845@yahoo.com
Abstract
BACKGROUND:

Some herbal remedies are sold as food additives and are believed to have immune-enhancing properties.
OBJECTIVES:

To study the effect of five herbal remedies--Sambucol Black Elderberry Extract, Sambucol Active Defense Formula and Sambucol for Kids (with known antiviral properties), Protec and Chizukit N (containing propolis and Echinacea, claimed to be immune enhancers)--on the production of cytokines, one of the main components of the immune system.
METHODS:

The production of four inflammatory cytokines (interleukin-1 beta, tumor necrosis factor alpha, and IL-6 and IL-8) and one anti-inflammatory cytokine (IL-10) was tested using blood-derived monocytes from 12 healthy donors.
RESULTS:

The Sambucol preparations increased the production of five cytokines (1.3-6.2 fold) compared to the control. Protec induced only a moderate production of IL-8 (1.6 fold) and IL-10 (2.3 fold) while Chizukit N caused only a moderate increase in IL-10 production (1.4 fold). Both Protec and Chizukit N caused moderate decreases in IL-1 beta, TNF alpha and IL-6 production. Lipopolysaccharide, a known activator of monocytes, induced the highest levels of cytokine production (3.6-10.7 fold).
CONCLUSIONS:

The three Sambucol formulations activate the healthy immune system by increasing inflammatory and anti-inflammatory cytokines production, while the effect of Protec and Chizukit N is much less. Sambucol could therefore have immunostimulatory properties when administered to patients suffering from influenza (as shown before), or immunodepressed cancer or AIDS patients who are receiving chemotherapy or other treatments.
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Isr Med Assoc J. 2002 Nov;4(11 Suppl) :944-6.
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  -Sambucol TV Ad is Misleading, and Probably Illegal MineralMan  Nov-22-11 08:22 AM   #0 
  - the fda is aware of the product, is testing it  JanMichael   Nov-22-11 08:28 AM   #1 
  - Yes, you do that. I'm sure the FDA is clueless without you....  Bluenorthwest   Nov-22-11 08:45 AM   #2 
  - ROFL!  BuddhaGirl   Nov-22-11 10:22 AM   #10 
  - Yes, save the world from elderberries!!11! Otherwise your father might smell of them.  Crunchy Frog   Nov-23-11 12:29 PM   #17 
  - IMHO, Chuck Berry, get the flu. n/t  HysteryDiagnosis   Nov-29-11 05:43 AM   #22 
  - I've been using Sambucol since about 2000 and it works for me  deutsey   Nov-22-11 09:01 AM   #3 
  - Oh, they'll get away with it, I suspect.  HuckleB   Nov-22-11 09:03 AM   #4 
  - Implied and inferred are not the same thing.  Bluenorthwest   Nov-22-11 09:29 AM   #5 
  - Have you seen the ad? If not, then we're not talking about the  MineralMan   Nov-22-11 09:39 AM   #6 
     - "Boost Your Immune System?"  HuckleB   Nov-22-11 09:50 AM   #7 
     - I read all their materials and how doctors use it.  Bluenorthwest   Nov-22-11 09:58 AM   #8 
     - Thanks for posting that  JanMichael   Nov-22-11 10:22 AM   #9 
        - Note the silence following the Mayo link...  Bluenorthwest   Nov-22-11 10:29 AM   #13 
           - Mayo says eat berries. So does everyone else.  HuckleB   Nov-22-11 12:00 PM   #14 
           - It is not about the Mayo link, which says nothing about  MineralMan   Nov-22-11 12:39 PM   #15 
     - I have seen the ads  JanMichael   Nov-22-11 10:23 AM   #11 
  - Sambucol is the bomb  BuddhaGirl   Nov-22-11 10:26 AM   #12 
  - I've found it helpful myself. It doesn't prevent you from getting things  Crunchy Frog   Nov-23-11 12:26 PM   #16 
  - You may want to turn in the Israelis as well.... snake oil and all.  HysteryDiagnosis   Nov-25-11 01:38 PM   #18 
  - Still pushing self-selected, small, preliminary studies?  HuckleB   Nov-25-11 05:19 PM   #19 
  - Good post...  SidDithers   Nov-26-11 07:21 PM   #20 
  - Good post!  helenmoore   Nov-29-11 12:19 AM   #21 
  - the pictures in the ad  Celebration   Nov-29-11 08:41 AM   #23 
 

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