trotsky
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Fri Nov-04-11 06:45 AM
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| 5. You have answered my question. Thanks. |
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So it's really just a matter of degree. How much is toxic? How much isn't toxic, but causes harm? How much doesn't cause instant harm, but can cause damage or accumulate over time?
Do you agree these are useful questions to answer, no matter whether we are talking about pollutants or supplements?
But if all you want to do is attack me personally, go right ahead.
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| -That bullshit study which they say reflected that vitamins hurt women |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Nov-04-11 06:07 AM |
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Bought and paid for by big pharma |
newfie11 |
Nov-04-11 06:11 AM |
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I think we need to tell other people. This is frikkin' ridiculous. nt |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Nov-04-11 06:31 AM |
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The repeated posts about this single aspect of a single study are ridiculous. |
HuckleB |
Nov-04-11 03:05 PM |
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I'd love to see an itemized list of funders for this study. :) nt |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Nov-04-11 09:56 AM |
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So go and find one... |
SidDithers |
Nov-04-11 11:10 AM |
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Please prove your claim that this study is "bought and paid for by big pharma." |
HuckleB |
Nov-04-11 12:07 PM |
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Could you answer just one question for me? |
trotsky |
Nov-04-11 06:32 AM |
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yes or no: Do you believe that water can be toxic in large enough quantities? |
Sanity Claws |
Nov-04-11 06:43 AM |
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You have answered my question. Thanks. |
trotsky |
Nov-04-11 06:45 AM |
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Nov-04-11 07:53 AM |
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I agree that water is toxic in large enough quantities. |
trotsky |
Nov-04-11 07:57 AM |
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It's not a belief--fat-soluble vitamins (A, D, E) can build up and become toxic |
TwilightGardener |
Nov-04-11 08:00 AM |
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You don't know anything about science... |
SidDithers |
Nov-04-11 07:02 AM |
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Nov-04-11 07:11 AM |
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"Scientific reductionism" at its best, for the purpose of promoting a pre-existing notion: |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Nov-04-11 10:02 AM |
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You don't know anything about the study, but know it's bullshit... |
SidDithers |
Nov-04-11 11:09 AM |
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Bullshit it is. nt |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Nov-04-11 02:50 PM |
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I asked my doctor, an integrated medicine specialist whom I respect, |
mod mom |
Nov-04-11 07:10 AM |
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My doc did as well. This study is more bullshit brought to you by |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Nov-04-11 10:03 AM |
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Why don't you find out who funded the study? |
HuckleB |
Nov-07-11 09:05 AM |
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Not disputing your overall point - |
PotatoChip |
Nov-04-11 08:23 AM |
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Interesting, thanks. nt |
bemildred |
Nov-04-11 09:13 AM |
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Anything can be damaging when done in extremes. Even healthy things can kill in excess |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Nov-04-11 10:15 AM |
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Dosage is everything, as I like to say. |
bemildred |
Nov-04-11 10:33 AM |
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Yes it is all very messy |
PotatoChip |
Nov-04-11 01:30 PM |
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Yup! But I'll take a hawthorn herb tablet any day before a statin. nt |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Nov-04-11 02:47 PM |
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It was a surprising study -- and the opposite of what Pharma wants |
mainer |
Nov-04-11 08:42 AM |
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Actually, pharma wants to control vitamins, and push their drugs on us |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Nov-04-11 09:55 AM |
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Big Supplement is in the same boat as Big Pharma. |
HuckleB |
Nov-04-11 06:54 PM |
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The pushback against your post kinda proves the point. K&R. |
DCKit |
Nov-04-11 08:57 AM |
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Actually, I'd love to know who is against my post, and the real reason why. |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Nov-04-11 09:57 AM |
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Because your post contains errors? |
trotsky |
Nov-04-11 10:00 AM |
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Does anyone ^^^ know these posters? |
DCKit |
Nov-04-11 09:00 AM |
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Yes, they prefer science over the blind push to sell worthless supplements. |
HuckleB |
Nov-04-11 09:17 AM |
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Yes, we're the ones that prefer facts to supposition...nt |
SidDithers |
Nov-04-11 09:19 AM |
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Do you watch Faux News too? They claim to deal in facts. nt |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Nov-04-11 10:03 AM |
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ROFL... |
SidDithers |
Nov-04-11 11:08 AM |
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Of course it is, Sid. |
trotsky |
Nov-04-11 11:11 AM |
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Nailed it... |
SidDithers |
Nov-04-11 11:12 AM |
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Nah. Interviewing 80 year olds and assuming it's the vitamins that determined everything |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Nov-04-11 02:46 PM |
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Your ignorance of the methodology of the Iowa Women's Health Study is astounding...nt |
SidDithers |
Nov-04-11 02:50 PM |
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Did you work on it? Please say you did. I need a little humor. nt |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Nov-04-11 03:08 PM |
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That's all you've got?... |
SidDithers |
Nov-04-11 03:36 PM |
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For the hundredth time, the science is clear. Most people don't need to take vitamin supplements. |
HuckleB |
Nov-04-11 09:20 AM |
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The point is that they are not harmful |
Motown_Johnny |
Nov-05-11 08:24 AM |
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The real point is that they're not necessary for most people. |
HuckleB |
Nov-06-11 09:30 PM |
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That study? Did you even bother to look at the study? |
MineralMan |
Nov-04-11 02:26 PM |
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More than you can imagine. It's bs. nt |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Nov-04-11 06:03 PM |
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But you don't know who funded it? |
MineralMan |
Nov-04-11 06:27 PM |
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I'm sure you're going to mention an organization you admire and respect greatly, aren't you? |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Nov-05-11 03:30 PM |
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So you're saying you don't know the funders for the study. |
HuckleB |
Nov-06-11 09:29 PM |
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I don't know a damn thing about it other than its result conflicts with my deeply held beliefs. |
trotsky |
Nov-07-11 06:57 AM |
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The Consumer Labs Study? |
Motown_Johnny |
Nov-05-11 08:17 AM |
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That link is dead. |
HuckleB |
Nov-06-11 10:26 PM |
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