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Celebration Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 10:34 AM
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6. A few points
A study may be valid and completely okay notwithstanding a researcher's ties to a pharmaceutical company. Howevever, there is certainly a reason to go over the results and methods with a fine tooth comb. At the very least there is a motivation for skewing the results. Speaking for myself, I am much more interested in the safety issues. Any data that is thrown out, or stopped early, or whatever, is suspect. Also conclusions drawn may be overly broad. Suffice it to say that there are various ways, subtle and not so subtle, that a study may not reflect the reality of the situation. Therefore, it is IMPERITIVE that we know the financial ties of the researchers.

JAMA and others DO publish the financial ties. That is a step forward. Researchers are required to disclose their financial ties. However, there is now NO MEAT behind this. If researchers choose to lie, and not disclose their financial ties, other than pulishing them in a later edition, THERE ARE NO CONSEQUENCES.

Do you get that?

There are no consequences for the researchers lying and saying there are no financial ties when there actually are.

Do you ACTUALLY TRUST a study done by researchers that LIE about their financial ties?

Wouldn't it be much better if JAMA and other journals would refuse to publish the studies done by proven liars? That is the whole point.

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  -JAMA refuses to exclude authors who hide financial ties to drug companies SimpleTrend  Aug-13-06 01:08 PM   #0 
  - Most journals are very credible and won't publish something  katinmn   Aug-13-06 01:17 PM   #1 
  - according to the article  itsjustme   Aug-13-06 02:12 PM   #2 
     - Thanks. I believe that all journals should require disclosure or not  katinmn   Aug-14-06 11:04 AM   #9 
  - It is not just authors  KT2000   Aug-13-06 02:45 PM   #3 
  - I tend to agree  SimpleTrend   Aug-14-06 03:21 PM   #15 
  - Their rationalization makes no sense.  Spirit Blooms   Aug-13-06 06:24 PM   #4 
  - The anti-trust statement does seem very out of place.  katinmn   Aug-14-06 11:16 AM   #10 
     - on this particular point  itsjustme   Aug-14-06 11:26 AM   #11 
  - Gotta love the fear-mongering.  trotsky   Aug-14-06 09:42 AM   #5 
     - A few points  itsjustme   Aug-14-06 10:34 AM   #6 
        - Of course I'm concerned.  trotsky   Aug-14-06 10:49 AM   #7 
           - Have no idea what you are talking about  itsjustme   Aug-14-06 10:57 AM   #8 
              - Just read the JAMA editor's piece.  trotsky   Aug-14-06 11:52 AM   #12 
                 - I did  itsjustme   Aug-14-06 01:20 PM   #13 
                    - You're not understanding what's being said.  trotsky   Aug-14-06 01:45 PM   #14 
                       - oh baloney  itsjustme   Aug-14-06 04:16 PM   #16 
                       - *sigh*  trotsky   Aug-14-06 08:10 PM   #18 
                          - Good grief, I DID  itsjustme   Aug-14-06 09:00 PM   #19 
                       - If journals want to maintain integrity, they require disclosure  katinmn   Aug-14-06 07:53 PM   #17 
 

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