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bluedawg12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 01:51 PM
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4. Everything you list make for a great national platform.
Edited on Mon Dec-08-08 01:52 PM by bluedawg12
The other issue is priorities.

What should we tackle first, second. etc.?

Ideally, we should be working on all of the issues, but some are social like aging, youth, coming out etc and some are political: DOMA, marriage equality.

If we had a national organization, then all of the things you mentioned could be part of the platform, but political issues would be prioritized based on timing and resources which are not unlimited.

Going back to the first question, why don't we have a national leader?

It seems that historically we have been fighting this State by State. It seems like we have State wide activism, in some States, but not a national political movement.

Also, we have been working under the umbrella of a national presence, like the Democratic party, which then mounts candidates such as PE Obama, who is running for national office.

So far, that means we have thrown our lot in with the best candidate that comes closest to voicing some of our concerns on a national level but certainly not all of our concerns.

I agree that your question is relevant and I was thinking about this the other day.

Is it time for a national organization?

Is it time for a national spokes person?

Memberships, dues, annual meetings? Committee's and sub committees to deal with social and political issues?

Research? A national speakers bureau?

Maybe a think tank for gay issues, as a well as a national organization, or as part of one?

I don't have the exact answer as to the details, but, I bet if something were developed, if for example a benefactor could donate a nice sum of funds to start something like that, I bet, with the internet access to the GLBTQ community even in remote places, there would be an interest in joining, support and involvement.

I think your question is spot on because the time sure seems right.

I am looking forward to what others think.

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  -"We are effectively without any national voice" TechBear_Seattle  Dec-08-08 11:19 AM   #0 
  - Part of the problem is we don't have a national agenda  dsc   Dec-08-08 12:03 PM   #1 
  - So let's pretend we are setting up up a national agenda  TechBear_Seattle   Dec-08-08 12:26 PM   #2 
  - I think that we should ask for everything all at once. Hear me out!  yardwork   Dec-08-08 01:25 PM   #3 
  - Incremental is what you will get if you try to focus on everything at once  TechBear_Seattle   Dec-08-08 02:47 PM   #7 
     - I think that we should ask for the full package of benefits on a national level.  yardwork   Dec-08-08 02:55 PM   #8 
        - Stay focused on a key few, and most of the rest will fall into place by themselves  TechBear_Seattle   Dec-08-08 03:04 PM   #9 
        - If we get universal healthcare for everyone, a lot of issues will fall into place.  yardwork   Dec-08-08 11:19 PM   #21 
        - I agree. It's the FOX NEWS strategy and it works.  readmoreoften   Dec-08-08 06:11 PM   #11 
  - Everything you list make for a great national platform.  bluedawg12   Dec-08-08 01:51 PM   #4 
     - The problem, as I see it, is  TechBear_Seattle   Dec-08-08 02:44 PM   #6 
        - Am I the only one living in a small town, red state, that feels left out of their national agenda?  bluedawg12   Dec-08-08 06:34 PM   #13 
           - When I said: And this happy horse crap means nothing to my life  bluedawg12   Dec-10-08 12:20 AM   #34 
  - Re how high a priority the issue of marriage should be placed...  ohm_moyh_gawd   Dec-08-08 02:31 PM   #5 
  - The easiest and most logical thing to do is demand it all-- immediately.  readmoreoften   Dec-08-08 06:01 PM   #10 
  - I don't give a rat's tail about "what are the straights most likely to accept"  TechBear_Seattle   Dec-08-08 06:19 PM   #12 
  - I am confused. Equal marriage is a State's right issue.  bluedawg12   Dec-08-08 06:42 PM   #14 
     - There are two separate issues here.  ohm_moyh_gawd   Dec-08-08 07:02 PM   #15 
     - Repeal of DOMA  bluedawg12   Dec-08-08 07:32 PM   #16 
        - Info. from Bilerico Project re: DOMA repeal and States.  bluedawg12   Dec-08-08 08:35 PM   #17 
        - Your understanding is incorrect  TechBear_Seattle   Dec-08-08 11:04 PM   #19 
           - Thank you for clarifying.  bluedawg12   Dec-09-08 12:33 AM   #24 
              - When I use a capital C in Court, I mean the US Supreme Court  TechBear_Seattle   Dec-09-08 08:56 AM   #25 
                 - Seems like a good strategy, techbear.  readmoreoften   Dec-09-08 10:47 AM   #26 
                 - You nailed what I was missing: Loving v Virgina  bluedawg12   Dec-09-08 11:08 AM   #27 
                    - If you really want to skewer the "procreative rationale for marriage" crowd, do what I did  TechBear_Seattle   Dec-09-08 11:26 AM   #28 
                       - Oh that is so evil - I love it!  bluedawg12   Dec-09-08 11:51 AM   #29 
                          - I am especially proud of the line from Section 8 (1)  TechBear_Seattle   Dec-09-08 12:43 PM   #31 
                             - So I'm watching The Daily Show with Stewart and his guest  bluedawg12   Dec-09-08 10:53 PM   #33 
     - Only in the same way that anti-miscegenation laws were a "states' right" issue  TechBear_Seattle   Dec-08-08 10:53 PM   #18 
     - I agree.  yardwork   Dec-08-08 11:20 PM   #23 
     - I think that we should demand marriage equality on the basis of the U.S. Constitution.  yardwork   Dec-08-08 11:18 PM   #20 
  - That's the way I see it but I'm willing to listen to other points of view.  yardwork   Dec-08-08 11:19 PM   #22 
  - To get back on track about your original question  bluedawg12   Dec-09-08 12:13 PM   #30 
  - This story from Oklahoma is an example of why we need national leadership.  bluedawg12   Dec-09-08 07:23 PM   #32 
  - We need something as vociferous as Act Up  IndianaGreen   Dec-10-08 12:32 AM   #35 

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