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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-08 04:32 PM
Response to Reply #84
86. ignorant is when you don't know better
evil is when you do

minorities who voted against Prop 8 knew better since they've been on the receiving end of discrimination


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  -An unfair attack on white gays dwickham  Nov-13-08 04:02 PM   #0 
  - I'm unconvinced that working-class lesbian families of color can't use joint health insurance  readmoreoften   Nov-13-08 04:09 PM   #1 
  - That op-ed has already been debunked. She was, just days earlier, FOR gay marriage.  closeupready   Nov-13-08 04:15 PM   #2 
  - Are you serious?  bluedawg12   Nov-13-08 05:45 PM   #8 
     - Yep. Here's the link  closeupready   Nov-13-08 06:37 PM   #14 
        - Thanks for link  bluedawg12   Nov-13-08 08:57 PM   #40 
  - There's a false dichotomy raised by Cannick and others.  yardwork   Nov-13-08 04:17 PM   #3 
  - Pushing a button to say no to Hate8 - cost no tax dollars  bluedawg12   Nov-13-08 05:50 PM   #10 
  - I don't like much of what I've seen written by her  dwickham   Nov-13-08 06:18 PM   #12 
     - She seems to be going out of her way to stoke division... /nt  Psyop Samurai   Nov-13-08 07:53 PM   #36 
        - it's an attention thing  dwickham   Nov-13-08 08:05 PM   #38 
  - the we don't want to discuss is that antigay bigotry crosses all spectrums.  xchrom   Nov-13-08 04:48 PM   #4 
  - that's evident on this website  dwickham   Nov-13-08 04:52 PM   #5 
  - I thought this was about the thread in GDP today -- seriously  LostinVA   Nov-13-08 05:24 PM   #6 
  - its an unfair attack on intelligence to pit one right against the other  lionesspriyanka   Nov-13-08 05:35 PM   #7 
  - Somebody needs to tell this jerk-off  nichomachus   Nov-13-08 05:46 PM   #9 
  - as a black lesbian, i am sure she is well aware of that  noiretblu   Nov-13-08 06:11 PM   #11 
     - Well, maybe when her rights are in jeopardy  nichomachus   Nov-13-08 06:46 PM   #15 
     - her rights were in jeopardy...she's a black lesbian  noiretblu   Nov-13-08 06:57 PM   #22 
     - people rationalize things that cause them cognitive dissonance  lionesspriyanka   Nov-13-08 06:53 PM   #18 
        - bs...i am a black lesbian who voted no on 8  noiretblu   Nov-13-08 07:00 PM   #23 
           - how is that bs, i assume the author voted no on 8 too, however she is hideously  lionesspriyanka   Nov-13-08 07:02 PM   #25 
              - i think she is being intentionally provacative  noiretblu   Nov-13-08 07:04 PM   #26 
                 - either way her logic is terribly flawed. i do think there is a place to talk  lionesspriyanka   Nov-13-08 07:09 PM   #27 
                 - i agree...not the place  noiretblu   Nov-13-08 07:17 PM   #31 
                 - you mean she is focusing on the fly on the elephants ass  jonnyblitz   Nov-13-08 07:11 PM   #28 
                    - YES...i believe she is...and she is venting  noiretblu   Nov-13-08 07:14 PM   #30 
                       - Do you think she was pressured into changing her previous pro gay stand?  bluedawg12   Nov-13-08 09:00 PM   #41 
                          - no, i don't think she was pressured  noiretblu   Nov-14-08 11:56 AM   #48 
                             - noiretblu - thank you!  bluedawg12   Nov-14-08 12:24 PM   #56 
                                - well, the nationalism i see reflected in that article  noiretblu   Nov-14-08 01:11 PM   #67 
                                   - Thank you - it makes sense these desperate rw ploys  bluedawg12   Nov-14-08 06:14 PM   #90 
                                      - Election Irregularities Surfacing Re: California's Proposition 8!  noiretblu   Nov-14-08 06:40 PM   #91 
  - do you think this is productive?  noiretblu   Nov-13-08 06:20 PM   #13 
  - do you think this is productive?  LostinVA   Nov-13-08 06:48 PM   #16 
  - magical negroes don't exist  noiretblu   Nov-13-08 06:52 PM   #17 
  - it's evil  dwickham   Nov-13-08 06:53 PM   #19 
     - i assume it's equally evil for the white, latino and asian  noiretblu   Nov-13-08 06:56 PM   #20 
        - do you think this is productive?  LostinVA   Nov-13-08 06:57 PM   #21 
        - yes...i think TRUTH is far more productive than half-truths  noiretblu   Nov-13-08 07:01 PM   #24 
           - do you think this is productive?  LostinVA   Nov-14-08 08:02 AM   #45 
              - it's more productive than infighting  noiretblu   Nov-14-08 12:00 PM   #49 
        - no, its not  dwickham   Nov-13-08 07:44 PM   #33 
           - did "the white gay community" support affirmative action?  noiretblu   Nov-14-08 12:06 PM   #50 
              - Actually, white gay people support affirmative action MUCH more than white straight people.  PelosiFan   Nov-14-08 12:17 PM   #54 
              - i'd like to see some numbers  noiretblu   Nov-14-08 12:43 PM   #58 
                 - I know that some democrats oppose it just as some democrats oppose civil rights (apparently)  PelosiFan   Nov-14-08 12:47 PM   #60 
                 - yes, unfortunately 5 million californians voted for Prop 8  noiretblu   Nov-14-08 12:52 PM   #63 
                 - Here's your poll... showing that gays support AA more than straights,,,  PelosiFan   Nov-16-08 10:36 AM   #97 
                    - i'm an accountant  noiretblu   Nov-17-08 06:19 PM   #98 
              - I don't know if the white gay community supported and continues to support  dwickham   Nov-14-08 02:45 PM   #80 
                 - no, people aren't evil...they are ignorant  noiretblu   Nov-14-08 03:04 PM   #84 
                    - ignorant is when you don't know better  dwickham   Nov-14-08 04:32 PM   #86 
                       - so white bigots get a pass? sorry...that just doesn't make sense  noiretblu   Nov-14-08 06:02 PM   #88 
  - The article the lady wrote is still bullshit  Chulanowa   Nov-13-08 07:13 PM   #29 
  - some people might have a hard time supporting  noiretblu   Nov-13-08 07:22 PM   # 
     - If equality is seen as special rights for special people, that's the result of a fucked up  mondo joe   Nov-13-08 07:45 PM   #34 
     - i absolutely agree...now what?  noiretblu   Nov-14-08 12:11 PM   #52 
        - If you ask me, push on the California court on Prop 8; see where we get with the  mondo joe   Nov-14-08 03:26 PM   #85 
     - this is honest  bluedawg12   Nov-13-08 07:57 PM   #37 
     - what is hollow about it?  noiretblu   Nov-14-08 12:13 PM   #53 
     - you think the religious right of any race in UNintentionally bigoted  lionesspriyanka   Nov-13-08 08:10 PM   #39 
        - sacred hatred  noiretblu   Nov-14-08 12:07 PM   #51 
  - Oh there are certainly racist and bigoted gays.  mondo joe   Nov-13-08 07:49 PM   #35 
  - there are bigoted white gays just like there are bigoted black gays and hispanic gays and asian gays  dwickham   Nov-13-08 11:45 PM   #43 
     - Nothing justifies Prop 8's passage. Nothing.  mondo joe   Nov-14-08 07:31 AM   #44 
        - Totally agree...  Psyop Samurai   Nov-14-08 10:02 AM   #46 
           - and then there was bull connor and george wallace  noiretblu   Nov-14-08 01:25 PM   #69 
              - You're alright with me, sister...  Psyop Samurai   Nov-14-08 04:52 PM   #87 
                 - sometimes we have to get past the anger  noiretblu   Nov-14-08 06:04 PM   #89 
  - What is NOT a false issue is fortifying the "It's a White thing" perception...  Psyop Samurai   Nov-13-08 10:18 PM   #42 
  - how did the white gay community support affrimative action?  noiretblu   Nov-14-08 12:41 PM   #57 
     - There are gender issues within the gay community, too.  yardwork   Nov-14-08 01:52 PM   #71 
        - i agree mostly  noiretblu   Nov-14-08 02:11 PM   #75 
           - You make a good point about the difference between the law and people's opinions.  yardwork   Nov-14-08 02:19 PM   #77 
              - we need federal protection  noiretblu   Nov-14-08 02:25 PM   #78 
                 - Have a good day and thank you for your posts!  yardwork   Nov-14-08 02:53 PM   #82 
  - Of course. No question about all your points - I don't think anybody disagrees here.  yardwork   Nov-14-08 10:10 AM   #47 
  - i agree with you...the author is an idiot. so why does she get some much ink here?  noiretblu   Nov-14-08 12:48 PM   #61 
     - She get's coverage because of what she said  bluedawg12   Nov-14-08 12:55 PM   #65 
     - 5.2 million people voted yes on 8  noiretblu   Nov-14-08 01:55 PM   #72 
        - This is a good point  bluedawg12   Nov-14-08 02:09 PM   #74 
     - It's been a very difficult ten days here. Last week there were some hurtful threads and posts  yardwork   Nov-14-08 01:46 PM   #70 
  - Are you a black lesbian Mormon?  Dinkeldog   Nov-14-08 12:22 PM   #55 
     - showing your true colors?  noiretblu   Nov-14-08 12:51 PM   #62 
        - Then should this break the Democratic coalition?  Dinkeldog   Nov-14-08 02:08 PM   #73 
           - is that your way of apologizing?  noiretblu   Nov-14-08 02:12 PM   #76 
              - Then I'll accept yours too  Dinkeldog   Nov-14-08 02:51 PM   #81 
                 - alrighty then  noiretblu   Nov-14-08 02:58 PM   #83 
  - ## PLEASE DONATE TO DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND! ##  DU GrovelBot   Nov-13-08 07:22 PM   #32 
  - We are all being cynically played by the rw and the SBC  bluedawg12   Nov-14-08 12:47 PM   #59 
  - THANK YOU  noiretblu   Nov-14-08 12:53 PM   #64 
     - noiretblu -- LOL! back at you!  bluedawg12   Nov-14-08 01:02 PM   #66 
        - absolutely...we have to stand united  noiretblu   Nov-14-08 01:15 PM   #68 
           - This is the "Reverse of Nixon's Southern Strategy"  bluedawg12   Nov-14-08 02:38 PM   #79 
           - good. I am glad you are not going anywhere.  jonnyblitz   Nov-14-08 07:02 PM   #92 
              - of course  noiretblu   Nov-14-08 07:03 PM   #93 
                 - good site! i glanced over it quickly and bookmarked it for later.  jonnyblitz   Nov-14-08 08:48 PM   #96 
  - The bottom line is  Jamastiene   Nov-14-08 07:15 PM   #94 
  - We are right on time - check this out - unity!  bluedawg12   Nov-14-08 07:50 PM   #95 
 

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