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84. Please Post a Link of Obama Apologizing for McClurkin.
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  -Is Obama homophobic? closeupready  Jun-05-08 01:03 PM   #0 
  - he is not in favor of equality for gays.  Caution   Jun-05-08 01:04 PM   #1 
  - This is true. However, ALL three candidates shared his disfavor to an equal (or greater) degree.  closeupready   Jun-05-08 01:08 PM   #3 
  - Excuse me? YES HE IS!!!  Liberal_Stalwart71   Jun-05-08 01:10 PM   #5 
  - as has been endlessly pointed out Obama wasn't there  dsc   Jun-05-08 01:12 PM   #8 
  - A sense of perspective, please.  TheWraith   Jun-05-08 01:15 PM   #10 
     - He was MC - he did more than sing n/t  FreeState   Jun-05-08 03:11 PM   #55 
  - Obama denounced homophobia by using text stolen from ex-gay ministries  TechBear_Seattle   Jun-05-08 02:10 PM   #43 
  - That strikes me as a bit "broad brush".  Sinistrous   Jun-05-08 01:11 PM   #6 
  - Bullshit.  NCevilDUer   Jun-05-08 01:15 PM   #11 
     - Here's Hillary on Ellen, nodding her head that she "do(es) not support gay marriage"  closeupready   Jun-05-08 01:27 PM   #14 
     - Clinton is no longer running. So, why are you comparing them.?  PelosiFan   Jun-05-08 01:35 PM   #17 
     - Has she conceded?  closeupready   Jun-05-08 01:37 PM   #20 
     - She has publicly stated that she will support him.  PelosiFan   Jun-05-08 01:41 PM   #23 
        - You really hate him, don't you?  closeupready   Jun-05-08 01:43 PM   #26 
           - Because I quoted Hillary supporting him? How do you conclude that I hate him?  PelosiFan   Jun-05-08 01:44 PM   #28 
              - It's obvious to me.  closeupready   Jun-05-08 01:52 PM   #31 
                 - Then you are wrong. I like Obama, except for his anti-gay rights position.  PelosiFan   Jun-05-08 01:56 PM   #35 
     - He is no more wrong than any other person running for President.  NCevilDUer   Jun-05-08 01:48 PM   #30 
        - It's not the damn word, it's the equality. Civil unions do not give us what marriage does.  PelosiFan   Jun-05-08 01:54 PM   #33 
        - You are arguing with emotion, not logic.  NCevilDUer   Jun-05-08 02:02 PM   #38 
           - I'm saying that we should have a representative who supports equality.  PelosiFan   Jun-05-08 02:07 PM   #41 
              - So who the fuck does?  NCevilDUer   Jun-05-08 02:22 PM   #45 
              - Just because no one does, doesn't mean we shouldn't demand it.  PelosiFan   Jun-05-08 02:25 PM   #46 
              - I Totally Get You! Those Black People Should Have Been Content With Their Separate Schools  Toasterlad   Jun-05-08 04:55 PM   #68 
                 - Do not give me that fucking shit.  NCevilDUer   Jun-05-08 05:10 PM   #69 
                    - I Am SO Not Interested In Playing Hillary-Barack With You.  Toasterlad   Jun-05-08 05:46 PM   #73 
                    - I guess that answered me.  NCevilDUer   Jun-05-08 07:38 PM   #96 
                    - careful who you call a troll around here  mitchtv   Jun-05-08 06:08 PM   #80 
                    - NCevilDUer, I'm your friend here, so try to hear me out.  kdpeters   Jun-05-08 08:40 PM   #118 
              - And so does Hillary. And so does her husband who went around the country  Liberal_Stalwart71   Jun-05-08 02:34 PM   #48 
                 - No, Hillary publicly stated that she favors federal equality.  PelosiFan   Jun-05-08 03:33 PM   #58 
                    - False.  closeupready   Jun-05-08 03:42 PM   #61 
                    - No, it's not false. But I will stop talking to you now.  PelosiFan   Jun-05-08 03:43 PM   #63 
                    - Yes he supports equality  MNBrewer   Jun-05-08 07:47 PM   #100 
                    - It's a distinction without a difference  MNBrewer   Jun-05-08 07:49 PM   #101 
                    - Exactly. One Water Fountain's As Good As Another.  Toasterlad   Jun-05-08 07:56 PM   #108 
                       - Perhaps I was unclear  MNBrewer   Jun-05-08 08:10 PM   #113 
                          - Sorry...My Bad.  Toasterlad   Jun-05-08 08:32 PM   #114 
                             - No problem :)  MNBrewer   Jun-05-08 08:34 PM   #115 
                    - Really?  Toasterlad   Jun-05-08 08:35 PM   #116 
        - if its just a word, why cant we have it? obviously its more than JUST a word  lionesspriyanka   Jun-05-08 03:24 PM   #57 
           - Because it is a fucking RELIGIOUS word  NCevilDUer   Jun-05-08 05:23 PM   #71 
              - but its not a RELIGIOUS word just because its conveniently used as one it isnt a religious word  lionesspriyanka   Jun-05-08 05:24 PM   #72 
              - Bullshit  TechBear_Seattle   Jun-05-08 09:11 PM   #125 
     - He does favor full civil rights for gay couples - no he does not  FreeState   Jun-05-08 03:13 PM   #56 
     - And state civil unions do not mean full civil rights anyway. There is NO federal benefit to them.  PelosiFan   Jun-05-08 03:36 PM   #59 
     - you "advice " is noted  mitchtv   Jun-05-08 03:37 PM   #60 
     - Separate But Equal is Not Equality. It's Segregation.  Toasterlad   Jun-05-08 04:39 PM   #67 
        - Hear hear.  PelosiFan   Jun-05-08 06:03 PM   #77 
  - No.  DarienComp   Jun-05-08 01:08 PM   #2 
  - I honestly don't know, and that is the problem  dsc   Jun-05-08 01:09 PM   #4 
  - If you're going to trash Obama, please get the facts right.  TheWraith   Jun-05-08 01:14 PM   #9 
  - I've answered this question several times, and I believe I've even answered you directly.  PelosiFan   Jun-05-08 01:11 PM   #7 
  - In hindsight, I would have reframed the question, but come on,  closeupready   Jun-05-08 01:16 PM   #12 
     - Well, we disagree then. Him saying that he is against gay marriage for religious reasons could make  PelosiFan   Jun-05-08 01:31 PM   #15 
        - If this is true, why am I reading posts in other threads where people say,  closeupready   Jun-05-08 01:36 PM   #18 
           - You must be reading things I don't see. Have you seen those here in GLBT?  PelosiFan   Jun-05-08 01:42 PM   #25 
              - Well, for the record, you are the ONLY PERSON to see this discussion as disruptive.  closeupready   Jun-05-08 01:54 PM   #32 
              - Why do you think I care what others think?  PelosiFan   Jun-05-08 01:57 PM   #36 
              - I don't care - it's a point made for the benefit of observers.  closeupready   Jun-05-08 02:06 PM   #40 
                 - So, if someone has an opinion, their opinion is not valid unless several other people have the same  PelosiFan   Jun-05-08 02:09 PM   #42 
              - Here's Another One. This Thread Is VERY Disruptive.  Toasterlad   Jun-05-08 06:08 PM   #79 
                 - I respect your opinion, but it's safe to say  closeupready   Jun-05-08 06:55 PM   #86 
                    - Thank you. But I Wish You'd Explain Why You REALLY Posted the OP.  Toasterlad   Jun-05-08 06:56 PM   #87 
                       - I don't appreciate the insinuation that I had an ulterior motive to inquiring  closeupready   Jun-05-08 07:51 PM   #103 
                          - Cher Does Not Enforce the Laws That Govern Me.  Toasterlad   Jun-05-08 08:08 PM   #112 
              - I've dealt with this one before  LostinVA   Jun-05-08 07:42 PM   #98 
                 - I really don't know why I bother.  PelosiFan   Jun-05-08 07:55 PM   #106 
                    - The door is to your left.  closeupready   Jun-05-08 09:20 PM   #127 
  - I get the feeling that he is more ambivalent than homophobic.  hulklogan   Jun-05-08 01:23 PM   #13 
  - One sentence in one sppech on MLK day doesn't demonstrate a firm  NCevilDUer   Jun-05-08 01:38 PM   #21 
     - you are promoting" seperate but equal"  mitchtv   Jun-05-08 03:48 PM   #64 
     - New Jersey has these alleged "civil unions with full rights"  hulklogan   Jun-05-08 07:05 PM   #90 
  - there is a big difference between homophobic and ambivalent about gay rights.  lionesspriyanka   Jun-05-08 01:33 PM   #16 
  - We are all big boys and girls here, are we not?  closeupready   Jun-05-08 01:39 PM   #22 
  - to me its like calling someone racist. its such a loaded term that one cannot  lionesspriyanka   Jun-05-08 01:43 PM   #27 
  - You have it exactly right.  terrya   Jun-05-08 01:47 PM   #29 
  - Are homosexuals racist???  BearSquirrel2   Jun-05-08 01:36 PM   #19 
  - Some are, yes, indeed. However, the experience of being discriminated against bonds  closeupready   Jun-05-08 01:42 PM   #24 
  - I was joking but ...  BearSquirrel2   Jun-05-08 02:05 PM   #39 
  - yes, we are all a bunch of racists. especially me. i hate those damned indian people.  lionesspriyanka   Jun-05-08 01:55 PM   #34 
     - LOL!  PelosiFan   Jun-05-08 01:58 PM   #37 
     - Wait...Which Ones? Dots or Feathers?  Toasterlad   Jun-05-08 06:18 PM   #82 
     - right? And their anti-Pakistan propaganda!  closeupready   Jun-05-08 02:41 PM   #49 
        - dont forget their job stealing. damn bastards. and whats with the accent?  lionesspriyanka   Jun-05-08 02:47 PM   #50 
           - I know! :mad: Just drop the pretense already and speak English,  closeupready   Jun-05-08 02:57 PM   #52 
  - It would be a stretch to say Obama is homophobic. However...  TechBear_Seattle   Jun-05-08 02:15 PM   #44 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-05-08 05:18 PM   #70 
  - I have written no lies, but you have presented some flat out whoppers  TechBear_Seattle   Jun-05-08 07:32 PM   #95 
     - Obama wants full repeal of DOMA  MNBrewer   Jun-05-08 07:40 PM   #97 
        - Cite, please n/t  TechBear_Seattle   Jun-05-08 07:42 PM   #99 
        - Here u go  MNBrewer   Jun-05-08 08:02 PM   #110 
           - For the umpteenth time: CIVIL UNIONS ARE NOT MARRIAGE  TechBear_Seattle   Jun-05-08 08:45 PM   #120 
              - I don't disagree that Civil Unions are not good enough  MNBrewer   Jun-05-08 08:47 PM   #121 
              - Here are the important questions  Dinkeldog   Jun-05-08 08:53 PM   #122 
        - What does that get us?  Dinkeldog   Jun-05-08 08:37 PM   #117 
           - Probably not much  MNBrewer   Jun-05-08 08:44 PM   #119 
              - This thread is about Obama, not about "a certain other candidate"  TechBear_Seattle   Jun-05-08 09:03 PM   #123 
                 - It gets us back to where we were before  MNBrewer   Jun-05-08 09:07 PM   #124 
  - "A man who does business with gangsters and doesn't have a bodyguard..."  Toasterlad   Jun-05-08 06:22 PM   #83 
  - I am a gay man,  Beregond2   Jun-05-08 02:26 PM   #47 
  - Saying that a state civil union equals federal marriage is absurd.  PelosiFan   Jun-05-08 03:42 PM   #62 
     - You know there is no such thing as a "federal marriage" don't you?  NCevilDUer   Jun-05-08 05:52 PM   #74 
     - There is marriage that is recognized by our FEDERAL government. Therefore federal marriage rights.  PelosiFan   Jun-05-08 06:02 PM   #76 
     - I said  Beregond2   Jun-05-08 06:46 PM   #85 
        - I never said marriage or nothing. Obama however has emphatically stated that he is against gay  PelosiFan   Jun-05-08 07:50 PM   #102 
           - And Hillary is against it because it's tradition.  MNBrewer   Jun-05-08 07:51 PM   #104 
              - Who is talking about HILLARY? We are talking about Obama.  PelosiFan   Jun-05-08 07:56 PM   #107 
                 - We're talking about people who oppose same-sex marriage  MNBrewer   Jun-05-08 08:05 PM   #111 
  - Kucinich was the only candidate who ran offering full equality  galledgoblin   Jun-05-08 02:51 PM   #51 
  - Number 3.  Iggo   Jun-05-08 03:02 PM   #53 
  - If, by this point, you "don't know him" it's by choice.  NCevilDUer   Jun-05-08 05:57 PM   #75 
     - Please Post a Link of Obama Apologizing for McClurkin.  Toasterlad   Jun-05-08 06:28 PM   #84 
        - He did apologize, right off the bat, saying he strongly disagrees  NCevilDUer   Jun-05-08 07:02 PM   #89 
           - Please Continue Working on Your Reading Comprehension.  Toasterlad   Jun-05-08 07:20 PM   #93 
           - It is to be noted that that is not a complete statement.  NCevilDUer   Jun-05-08 07:31 PM   #94 
              - Because It's Illegal to Print Things Someone Said If They Didn't Say It?  Toasterlad   Jun-05-08 07:54 PM   #105 
           - Very interesting. Thank you for posting this.  closeupready   Jun-05-08 09:18 PM   #126 
  - he's an anti-gay bigot if you ask me.  xchrom   Jun-05-08 03:11 PM   #54 
  - I don't think he is homophobic.  ccharles000   Jun-05-08 03:48 PM   #65 
  - No he's not a homophobe  Bluenorthwest   Jun-05-08 04:23 PM   #66 
  - The only people who truly know the answer to that are his family and friends  ruggerson   Jun-05-08 06:05 PM   #78 
  - I agree with every word you said.  David Zephyr   Jun-05-08 07:20 PM   #92 
  - Epic flamewar is epic.  AspieGrrl   Jun-05-08 06:14 PM   #81 
  - I do not think Obama is homophobic  LeftCoast   Jun-05-08 07:01 PM   #88 
  - Obama is far from homophobic, mostly pro-equality, and has always had a great deal of GLBT support  kdpeters   Jun-05-08 07:06 PM   #91 
  - Homophobic might be strong. Heterosexist is quite likely more accurate  Dinkeldog   Jun-05-08 07:57 PM   #109 
  - Locking  Wickerman   Jun-05-08 09:29 PM   #128 

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