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74. My only issue is uneven enforcement of the rules
Some groups have rules against "rallying the troops" - pointing out a thread offensive to members of that group and urging group members to swarm on it. A number of threads in the Skeptics forum have been locked for that - and that's fine if that's the rule.

But dozens of threads in the Vegetarian/Animal Rights forum did the same exact thing, and when I alerted on those, what was the response? To ban ME from the Vegetarian group so that I couldn't alert on them anymore. This is in direct contradiction to the repeated urging of mods and admins to hit alert when you see a thread that breaks the rules. I'm now banned from a group I've never once posted in - because I alerted on threads that broke the rules.

I PMed mods to ask about it - they said to PM the admins. I did, a few times, and never got a response.

I take it people are finding examples in other forums where "Best of..." type-threads haven't been locked, even when they do the same thing the ones here did.

So I have no objection to any rules you want to institute, but you must know that people will be upset if they're not enforced across the board.
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  -I understand that we've had a few issues come up here in the GLBT forum. A couple things... Skinner  May-20-08 08:53 PM   #0 
  - Skinner, from one member of DU and there opinion.. You guys do an awesome...  LakeSamish706   May-20-08 09:00 PM   #1 
  - Not sure what happened with Lithos  panader0   May-20-08 09:01 PM   #2 
  - That would be 'zero'. n/t  Dr_eldritch   May-20-08 11:35 PM   #19 
     - Let's double their pay! nt  tbyg52   May-21-08 05:47 PM   #100 
  - Oh, I doubt you've been called worse than this!  WillBowden   May-20-08 09:02 PM   #3 
  - Thanks,  mitchtv   May-20-08 09:27 PM   #4 
  - Skinner, LGBT people are telling you there's a problem at DU.  94114_San_Francisco   May-20-08 10:06 PM   #5 
  - It's been obvious for a very long time that there's a very serious problem  ThomCat   May-20-08 11:45 PM   #20 
  - Thank you  TechBear_Seattle   May-21-08 08:22 AM   #37 
  - Very well said, 94114. Not to pile on Skinner, except that he asked for it here...  PelosiFan   May-21-08 08:48 AM   #39 
  - I hope you ask yourself why there is this level of anger among DU's GLBT community  LeftCoast   May-20-08 10:11 PM   #6 
  - I want to associate myself with posts 5 and 6  dsc   May-20-08 10:17 PM   #7 
  - Thank you for this  Horse with no Name   May-21-08 12:49 AM   #29 
  - Unfortunately Skinner my experience here is not what you allude to either  FreeState   May-20-08 10:20 PM   #8 
  - Did you even read Lithos' thread? Or even better, his responses?  Solon   May-20-08 10:27 PM   #9 
  - Maybe It Depends On How The Word Is Used?  queerart   May-20-08 10:44 PM   #12 
     - Even worse, most of the posts in the original 2 threads and the 3rd started by dsc...  Solon   May-20-08 10:49 PM   #13 
        - I Can't Help But Smile......  queerart   May-20-08 10:55 PM   #14 
           - Oh, Lithos violated the rules of DU!  Solon   May-20-08 11:21 PM   #15 
  - i'm with posts 5 and 6 as well --  xchrom   May-20-08 10:34 PM   #10 
  - There are a lot of good people on this thread and the other begging to be heard.  LeftyMom   May-20-08 10:41 PM   #11 
  - hmmmm  indigo32   May-20-08 11:31 PM   #17 
  - Allow me to explain why you are wrong.  Toasterlad   May-20-08 11:30 PM   #16 
  - A little empathy would go a long way, Skinner.  Chovexani   May-20-08 11:33 PM   #18 
  - "I'm not fighting anymore, Skinner. You win."  ThomCat   May-20-08 11:51 PM   #22 
  - This is my gurl. K&R if I could this post!!  goldcanyonaz   May-21-08 01:06 AM   #30 
  - You are awesome.  AspieGrrl   May-21-08 06:14 AM   #33 
  - This post deserves a standing ovation  Der Blaue Engel   May-21-08 10:18 AM   #52 
  - This post absolutely breaks my heart.  racaulk   May-22-08 09:13 AM   #130 
  - That's a lot of words to say "Shut up and stop raising a stink."  ThomCat   May-20-08 11:48 PM   #21 
  - Ditto the posts on here #5, #6, and others  dbackjon   May-20-08 11:57 PM   #23 
  - Skinner's mom goes to college...  crimsonblue   May-20-08 11:59 PM   #24 
  - skinner  undergroundpanther   May-21-08 12:17 AM   #26 
     - I agree.  ccharles000   May-21-08 06:16 AM   #34 
     - Fat phobic?  John Kerry VonErich   May-22-08 10:11 AM   #132 
  - No Skinner, we really can't move on.  MuseRider   May-21-08 12:11 AM   #25 
  - equality is a CORE  undergroundpanther   May-21-08 12:22 AM   #27 
     - I would say that it  MuseRider   May-21-08 12:29 AM   #28 
        - It is still a core democratic principle  Bluenorthwest   May-21-08 09:29 AM   #47 
  - Fine. If you say we can pretty much speak our minds in this thread  Jamastiene   May-21-08 02:04 AM   #31 
  - We have felt attacked  jumptheshadow   May-21-08 05:46 AM   #32 
  - I'm with 5 and 6 too ...  meegbear   May-21-08 06:44 AM   #35 
  - I'm logging in briefly, because this is an important thread. The treatment of the GLBT posters here  BleedingHeartPatriot   May-21-08 07:38 AM   #36 
  - Your last 3 paragraphs are the  MuseRider   May-21-08 08:51 AM   #40 
     - Thank you, MuseRider. You are one of my all time favorite posters,  BleedingHeartPatriot   May-21-08 08:23 PM   #107 
  - This is starting to look like a purge of GLBT members  TechBear_Seattle   May-21-08 08:40 AM   #38 
  - Oh, you big drama queen, you.  baby_mouse   May-21-08 02:51 PM   #85 
  - Obscure hetero checking in to add his two cents (i.e a show of solidarity, FWIW):  RandomKoolzip   May-21-08 08:58 AM   #41 
  - me too  AZDemDist6   May-21-08 01:44 PM   #76 
  - Move On or Move Out  foxeyes2   May-21-08 09:02 AM   #42 
  - Where is the corresponding post to be pinned at the top of GD  Book Lover   May-21-08 09:02 AM   #43 
  - A pinned thread stating that homophobia is not allowed in any form, would be nice.  PelosiFan   May-21-08 09:19 AM   #46 
     - There was one in 2004, but no follow-through.  LeftyMom   May-21-08 12:37 PM   #67 
        - Yes. That thread is exactly what I was thinking of  Book Lover   May-21-08 12:40 PM   #68 
        - WOW! Thanks for posting that. I wish they still stood by those rules.  PelosiFan   May-21-08 12:58 PM   #70 
        - You should post that as its own thread.  PelosiFan   May-21-08 01:00 PM   #71 
  - I've just read this whole thread, and I'm curious why you have not responded once.  PelosiFan   May-21-08 09:07 AM   #44 
  - He probably isn't going to respond.  oktoberain   May-21-08 09:57 AM   #50 
  - That lack of response says volumes, doesn't it? n/t  racaulk   May-21-08 02:24 PM   #82 
  - What I want to know is why post it in GLBT and not where the problem is stemming from  FreeState   May-21-08 04:35 PM   #90 
     - ***Ding ding ding! We have a winner!***  racaulk   May-22-08 12:14 PM   #139 
  - Thanks for talking down to me.  xmas74   May-21-08 09:18 AM   #45 
  - Since now I don't have to send this back channel in an alert  Dinkeldog   May-21-08 09:38 AM   #48 
  - Question from the outskirts of the trans community...  LeftHander   May-21-08 09:51 AM   #49 
  - Wedges, obviously. We are NOTHING BUT wedges, it seems. NT  baby_mouse   May-21-08 02:46 PM   #84 
  - If alerting was enough, there would have been no need for those threads.  DarkTirade   May-21-08 10:08 AM   #51 
  - "If you want to complain about someone, complain about me."  Der Blaue Engel   May-21-08 10:37 AM   #53 
  - Talking down your nose  Bluenorthwest   May-21-08 10:51 AM   #54 
  - "Jews are going to cost us the election." Yep you're right. That wouldn't be tolerated here.  PelosiFan   May-21-08 11:04 AM   #55 
     - Or "I'm personally against interracial marriage"  ronnykmarshall   May-21-08 11:20 AM   #56 
        - Or "I don't care what black people do as long as they don't do it in public"  PelosiFan   May-21-08 11:26 AM   #57 
           - I think Bush is BLACK!  ronnykmarshall   May-21-08 11:34 AM   #58 
           - Thanks you two  Bluenorthwest   May-21-08 11:43 AM   #59 
           - And one more thing  Bluenorthwest   May-21-08 12:00 PM   #63 
           - "Why is it that only black people end up in the hospital with gerbils up their..."  PelosiFan   May-21-08 11:45 AM   #60 
              - Desegregating the Armed forces was foolish! n/t  Solon   May-21-08 11:50 AM   #61 
                 - It was a social experiment!  Dinkeldog   May-21-08 11:56 AM   #62 
                    - I just changed a couple of words, from this thread...  Solon   May-21-08 12:01 PM   #64 
                       - See! This is EXACTLY what the BEST-OF threads are for, to point this sort of thing out.  PelosiFan   May-21-08 01:45 PM   #77 
                          - Good lord  MuseRider   May-21-08 01:49 PM   #78 
                          - Yep, It was never locked. Just allowed to stink up the place and finally get archived.  PelosiFan   May-21-08 02:03 PM   #79 
                             - So now it sits  MuseRider   May-21-08 02:05 PM   #80 
                          - Fucking CHRIST.  baby_mouse   May-21-08 03:26 PM   #88 
           - Now Blacks and whites can marry Watermelon and corn sales will go up...  FreeState   May-21-08 01:17 PM   #72 
  - I loved that you think our concerns are less than the concerns of vegetarians  lionesspriyanka   May-21-08 12:23 PM   #65 
  - OK, couple of things... some have already been said, but you need to hear them again  Book Lover   May-21-08 12:31 PM   #66 
  - Isn't being condescended to by straights  Tyo   May-21-08 12:51 PM   #69 
  - May I?  MuseRider   May-21-08 01:37 PM   #75 
     - Hi MuseRider  Tyo   May-21-08 05:00 PM   #91 
        - Thank you for letting me stand with you.  MuseRider   May-21-08 06:09 PM   #102 
  - Well, I haven't been paying too much attention  mitchtv   May-21-08 01:20 PM   #73 
  - My only issue is uneven enforcement of the rules  MonkeyFunk   May-21-08 01:35 PM   #74 
  - Skinner...  baby_mouse   May-21-08 02:23 PM   #81 
  - Oh, yeah, and, uh...... (whispers...) T. O. N. E. D. E. A. F.  baby_mouse   May-21-08 02:30 PM   #83 
  - Remember when you yourself used the word "faggy" inappropriately?  PelosiFan   May-21-08 02:55 PM   #86 
  - It Only Gets More Bizarre.........  queerart   May-21-08 05:38 PM   #97 
  - OMG  LeftCoast   May-21-08 06:52 PM   #105 
  - Um.  Fran Kubelik   May-21-08 02:57 PM   # 
  - it's like this in the feminist forum too  undergroundpanther   May-21-08 05:27 PM   #93 
  - Translation of your last paragraph: "We've given you a little time to vent. Now get over it."  racaulk   May-21-08 02:57 PM   #87 
  - Out of a sense of fairness  jumptheshadow   May-21-08 03:28 PM   #89 
  - It'd be helpful if a mod or admin would even TRY to communicate with the members  RandomKoolzip   May-21-08 05:08 PM   #92 
  - Skinner?...*crickets*  undergroundpanther   May-21-08 05:34 PM   #95 
  - more like a "let them throw tantrums like children" while i ignore them like the adult i am.  lionesspriyanka   May-21-08 05:34 PM   #96 
     - Oh really?  undergroundpanther   May-21-08 05:43 PM   #99 
  - Please tell me you're not going to ignore this thread. We need dialog not a proclamation.  94114_San_Francisco   May-21-08 05:27 PM   #94 
  - I'll add a fifth option  Dinkeldog   May-21-08 05:42 PM   #98 
  - As a matter of fact, we are reviewing every single post....  Skinner   May-21-08 05:59 PM   #101 
     - Thank you  MNBrewer   May-21-08 06:12 PM   #103 
     - I hope you'll review this thread, too.  94114_San_Francisco   May-21-08 06:16 PM   #104 
  - whining, faux outrage, thin skinned.  IndianaJones   May-21-08 07:04 PM   #106 
  - i live for faux outrage!  lionesspriyanka   May-22-08 11:14 AM   #133 
  - What caused the boil-over?  Mimosa   May-21-08 08:43 PM   #108 
  - The Best of DU Glbt.... Larry Craig, McClurkin and more...  bliss_eternal   May-21-08 09:53 PM   #109 
  - Here's another of the "everyone we hate is gay" variety  LeftCoast   May-21-08 10:22 PM   #110 
  - Thank you, Skinner.  damkira   May-21-08 10:42 PM   #111 
  - And you speak for the "gay community" how?  BleedingHeartPatriot   May-21-08 11:06 PM   #112 
  - By trolling trans threads with bigoted garbage.  Chovexani   May-21-08 11:43 PM   #120 
  - "couple of loud-mouth malcontents"  ThomCat   May-21-08 11:14 PM   #113 
  - It's been way more than a "couple"  MNBrewer   May-21-08 11:22 PM   #114 
  - There appear to be at least forty "malcontents" in this thread alone  hulklogan   May-21-08 11:30 PM   #116 
  - Stop giving the Democratic Party a "wedgie"!!! hehe  MNBrewer   May-21-08 11:34 PM   #117 
     - LEAVE HIM ALONE!!!!1111eleventy  Chovexani   May-21-08 11:41 PM   #118 
  - Pardon me, but if it weren't for "malcontents"  Book Lover   May-21-08 11:50 PM   #121 
  - Well, if the rules start getting enforced, then her posts would get deleted  LostinVA   May-22-08 06:51 AM   #125 
  - Isn't she the one  gaspee   May-22-08 12:02 PM   #134 
     - Yep, that's the one.  racaulk   May-22-08 12:09 PM   #137 
  - Exactly!  racaulk   May-22-08 12:10 PM   #138 
  - Malcontents...?  bliss_eternal   May-21-08 11:59 PM   #122 
  - ...  baby_mouse   May-22-08 02:01 AM   #123 
  - I see that your apologies for your anti-trans comments were hollow.  PelosiFan   May-22-08 06:33 AM   #124 
  - Another "non-contributor" speaks.  Tyler Durden   May-22-08 08:02 AM   #126 
  - Don't you have some transgendered people to insult?  racaulk   May-22-08 08:31 AM   #128 
  - actually i think its you who doesnt represent us.  lionesspriyanka   May-22-08 10:06 AM   #131 
  - A "few issues"? Good god. You can't possibly be this clueless, Skinner.  Beausoir   May-21-08 11:26 PM   #115 
  - kick  xchrom   May-21-08 11:42 PM   #119 
  - The time is FAR past for the board to stand up for EQUALITY.  Tyler Durden   May-22-08 08:11 AM   #127 
  - Yes!  Bluenorthwest   May-22-08 08:53 AM   #129 
  - Seems like to me  gaspee   May-22-08 12:05 PM   #135 
     - DU makes me uncomfortable these days  gaspee   May-22-08 12:08 PM   #136 
        - In the words of another DUer  Bluenorthwest   May-22-08 12:21 PM   #140 
           - historically that's not exactly accurate -- homosexuality as we now  xchrom   May-22-08 02:19 PM   #141 
  - I have posted a follow-up OP here:  Skinner   May-22-08 03:43 PM   #142 
 

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