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bluedawg12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-17-09 12:42 PM
Response to Reply #58
65. Due to DOMA - "benefits" cannot include health benefits.
The other issue raised was, if it is only a memorandum, then, it may not have force beyond his term.

Huge GLBT fundraiser stands to fail, so they throw us a small bonelet.

They are covering this currently on MSNBC with Michael Rogers speaking for GLBT rights. What a change, actually having gay people speaking on behalf of gay rights. Society is changing, even if some Dino's lag behind.

Run dino run.

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  -BREAKING: President Obama's memorandum will probably not include health benefits hulklogan  Jun-16-09 09:50 PM   #0 
  - oh THIS is going to go over well -- nt  xchrom   Jun-16-09 09:51 PM   #1 
  - BUT HE'S ONLY BEEN IN OFFICE SIX MONTHS!!!!!!!  ronnykmarshall   Jun-17-09 11:57 AM   #63 
     - i think we should stitch them up some outfits. nt  xchrom   Jun-17-09 12:47 PM   #67 
  - I told y'all so......  FLAprogressive   Jun-16-09 09:52 PM   #2 
  - yup. bribery to lure teh gays back to the imploding fundraiser to  jonnyblitz   Jun-16-09 09:55 PM   #4 
     - But amazingly a lot of DUers think it's a great leap  FLAprogressive   Jun-16-09 09:56 PM   #5 
        - No, but a great leap was involved in my response.  aquart   Jun-16-09 10:13 PM   #18 
  - AP says health benefits included. I guess we'll see  Thrill   Jun-16-09 09:53 PM   #3 
  - DU wants symbolism, while Obama wants laws and long term solutions.  MarjorieG   Jun-16-09 09:57 PM   #6 
  - I don't want this memorandum if it only covers moving expenses.  hulklogan   Jun-16-09 10:00 PM   #9 
  - Interim justice is better than no justice at all.  katandmoon   Jun-16-09 10:02 PM   #10 
  - It's the other way around, honey. This whole memo IS symbolism.  FLAprogressive   Jun-16-09 10:04 PM   #12 
  - No, honey, I need LEGAL PROTECTION. An executive order for any human right is fine by me.  readmoreoften   Jun-16-09 10:11 PM   #17 
  - Just saying the pent up feelings of right, pain, and frustration shouldn't come down  MarjorieG   Jun-16-09 10:18 PM   #23 
     - These "allies on DU" are fair weather friends. Only happy to support equality when we're silent.  hulklogan   Jun-16-09 10:26 PM   #28 
     - You forgot to mention poutrage  LostinVA   Jun-17-09 07:49 AM   #49 
     - I don't think you're helpful.  Starry Messenger   Jun-17-09 08:02 AM   #53 
     - Yeah, so if we don't get health care, it's all teh gays fault.  donco6   Jun-17-09 08:19 AM   #54 
        - Well, we were singlehandedly responsible for the 200 and 2004 losses,  QC   Jun-17-09 10:45 AM   #62 
           - True. Isn't there more we can do?  donco6   Jun-17-09 06:08 PM   #72 
  - Laws and long term solutions?  WillBowden   Jun-17-09 06:54 AM   #45 
  - Oh, you again  LostinVA   Jun-17-09 07:48 AM   #48 
  - And the only way we ever get action is by being loud.  donco6   Jun-17-09 08:21 AM   #55 
  - if slavery was involved Obama would be moving his lawful ass a bit faster.  sui generis   Jun-17-09 01:25 PM   #71 
  - Oh my god that's RICH! He extends recognition but likely with few, if any, real benefits.  readmoreoften   Jun-16-09 09:57 PM   #7 
  - Spouses will be able to eat in the employee cafeteria.  QC   Jun-16-09 10:00 PM   #8 
     - hey, he also issued a proclamation.  FLAprogressive   Jun-16-09 10:05 PM   #13 
     - Just another picture of him with his shirt off!  QC   Jun-16-09 10:06 PM   #14 
     - *fap fap fap*  FLAprogressive   Jun-16-09 10:10 PM   #16 
     - A Shetland Pony  LostinVA   Jun-17-09 07:49 AM   #51 
        - ... with pink polka dots, or else it's all over.  closeupready   Jun-17-09 01:05 PM   #70 
     - Can I use the employee discount card? Will it offset the cost of hospitalization and dying alone?  readmoreoften   Jun-16-09 10:15 PM   #20 
     - You may use the card, but only once a week. n/t  QC   Jun-16-09 10:18 PM   #24 
        - there's blackout periods too  FLAprogressive   Jun-16-09 10:21 PM   #25 
     - do they get to choose dessert?  ruggerson   Jun-16-09 11:07 PM   #31 
     - Depends on how much dessert they made that day. n/t  QC   Jun-16-09 11:09 PM   #33 
     - Yes,  NMMNG   Jun-17-09 07:16 AM   #47 
     - Only if they are nice, clean gays, not like those angry radicals. n/t  QC   Jun-17-09 08:24 AM   #56 
     - Discounted soup and sammies is enough for teh gays  LostinVA   Jun-17-09 07:49 AM   #50 
  - Congress has to approve all money  sandnsea   Jun-16-09 10:03 PM   #11 
  - Which is why it isn't all champagne and flowers around here just because of this memo.  hulklogan   Jun-16-09 10:08 PM   #15 
     - We are "insufferable ingrates," as one of the head cheerleaders just remarked.  QC   Jun-16-09 10:14 PM   #19 
     - Why are you gays whining about moving expenses? Isn't that what you've been asking for?  hulklogan   Jun-16-09 10:16 PM   #21 
     - Damn insufferable ingrates!  QC   Jun-16-09 10:26 PM   #27 
        - Why do you hate America?  Chovexani   Jun-17-09 07:01 PM   #75 
     - Someone seriously wrote that? Ugh.  Metric System   Jun-16-09 11:46 PM   #40 
        - Yes, one of the most peppy (and catty) of the cheerleaders said it.  QC   Jun-17-09 07:15 AM   #46 
           - The dominant majority just can't understand  bluedawg12   Jun-17-09 12:47 PM   #68 
     - Or point towards the problem - Congress n/t  sandnsea   Jun-16-09 11:04 PM   #30 
        - Then it's even more coldhearted and cynical than I thought, to tease with the idea of "benefits"  hulklogan   Jun-16-09 11:09 PM   #32 
           - Only Congress can give those benefits  sandnsea   Jun-16-09 11:14 PM   #35 
              - Then President Obama should just say that instead of playing this benefits game  hulklogan   Jun-16-09 11:16 PM   #36 
                 - My god, he has - probably will again tomorrow  sandnsea   Jun-16-09 11:21 PM   #37 
                    - Enough with the devil's advocate games.  hulklogan   Jun-16-09 11:22 PM   #38 
                       - That's what needs to be done  sandnsea   Jun-16-09 11:25 PM   #39 
  - This is really disappointing ..........  Tangerine LaBamba   Jun-16-09 10:17 PM   #22 
  - Since only Congress can change pay, health, and retirement benefits, what's left?  IndianaGreen   Jun-16-09 10:24 PM   #26 
  - Moving expenses and cafeteria privileges  LostinVA   Jun-17-09 07:50 AM   #52 
  - "My hands are tied" he'll say, with a really sad look.  donco6   Jun-17-09 08:24 AM   #57 
  - This is being discussed on Rachel's show (show is on now).  dgibby   Jun-16-09 10:31 PM   #29 
  - Congress has powers against an Executive Order  sandnsea   Jun-16-09 11:13 PM   #34 
  - I am so unimpressed. This was his "big June announcement"? Copying Hillary's move at the State Dept?  David Zephyr   Jun-16-09 11:47 PM   #41 
  - You're not being very hopeful, David. Changealicious, either. n/t  QC   Jun-16-09 11:55 PM   #42 
  - It's basically a stunt to shut the gays up  nichomachus   Jun-17-09 12:08 AM   #43 
  - A few tasty crumbs.  sisters6   Jun-17-09 05:55 AM   #44 
  - Without health care benefits, not even all that tasty.  Rhythm   Jun-17-09 09:07 AM   #59 
     - The crumbs will be enough for some. tasty or not. Sad.  sisters6   Jun-17-09 09:11 AM   #60 
        - It'll be enough for some of our so-called 'allies' to start another round of 'poutrage' catcalls  Rhythm   Jun-17-09 10:43 AM   #61 
           - I think it's starting -- there's a thread in GDP about the memo -- it was just released  LostinVA   Jun-17-09 12:17 PM   #64 
              - See dino run.  bluedawg12   Jun-17-09 12:43 PM   #66 
  - Fuckin' right, it ain't!  GodlessBiker   Jun-17-09 08:58 AM   #58 
     - Due to DOMA - "benefits" cannot include health benefits.  bluedawg12   Jun-17-09 12:42 PM   #65 
  - Just wanna say, I made a positive remark in the LBN thread, but I take it back.  closeupready   Jun-17-09 01:04 PM   #69 
  - Gerry Studds' spouse has joined a case (filed in March) for survivor benefits, health and annuity.  pinto   Jun-17-09 06:30 PM   #73 
  - This is our Fierce Advocate y'all  Chovexani   Jun-17-09 07:00 PM   #74 
  - Fierce Advocate nt  Seen the light   Jun-17-09 07:56 PM   #76 

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