donco6
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Thu Jun-18-09 07:52 AM
Response to Reply #22 |
| 72. If the gays are having a party - |
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the intent of which is to ridicule the straight patrons of the bar, then yes.
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| -Gay bar says ‘I don’t’ to bachelorettes |
WillBowden |
Jun-16-09 08:01 PM |
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Thumbs Up! (nt) |
queerart |
Jun-16-09 08:03 PM |
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recommend -- good for him. nt |
xchrom |
Jun-16-09 08:03 PM |
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he's arguably in violation of state law |
paulsby |
Jun-16-09 08:06 PM |
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Anyone is "arguably" in violation of state law. |
readmoreoften |
Jun-16-09 09:55 PM |
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of course not |
paulsby |
Jun-16-09 10:01 PM |
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A group is not an individual- a group is expressive: that's where the arguably comes in. IMO |
imdjh |
Jun-22-09 08:47 AM |
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A closer cousin would be Guerilla Gay Bar |
imdjh |
Jun-22-09 08:52 AM |
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ban may violate state anti-discrimination laws |
paulsby |
Jun-16-09 08:06 PM |
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Such bullshit. |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Jun-16-09 08:29 PM |
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have you read |
paulsby |
Jun-16-09 08:36 PM |
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Oh that's rich. The law will protect persons who demand to celebrate an upcoming marriage |
readmoreoften |
Jun-16-09 09:53 PM |
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the problem is |
paulsby |
Jun-16-09 09:56 PM |
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But we ARE talking about events. Not people. |
Lyric |
Jun-17-09 12:21 PM |
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We don't have to play the "monkey in a cage" game. |
donco6 |
Jun-17-09 05:48 PM |
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Just like going to the zoo |
Cherchez la Femme |
Jun-19-09 03:28 PM |
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As an old straight broad who spent |
Tangerine LaBamba |
Jun-16-09 08:09 PM |
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I lived in that neighborhood when it was called "Newtown" in the 70s |
Mari333 |
Jun-18-09 10:56 AM |
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As I understand it , it's near some baseball park. And it's still freezing cold in winter and hot as |
imdjh |
Jun-22-09 08:56 AM |
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There could be some legal issues here. |
madaboutharry |
Jun-16-09 08:15 PM |
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Correction. He runs a business that caters to everybody... |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Jun-16-09 08:35 PM |
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he can restrict activity |
paulsby |
Jun-16-09 08:38 PM |
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He can restrict activity to more than SOME extent. |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Jun-16-09 09:11 PM |
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no, it's to SOME EXTENT |
paulsby |
Jun-16-09 09:15 PM |
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He' s not stopping people at the door asking their marital status.... |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Jun-16-09 09:25 PM |
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bachelorettes going to a bar |
paulsby |
Jun-16-09 09:30 PM |
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You are telling me a bachelorette party isn't an event? |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Jun-16-09 09:46 PM |
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i agree |
paulsby |
Jun-16-09 09:53 PM |
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He most certainly CAN.... |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Jun-16-09 10:22 PM |
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Paulsby doesn't realize this is identical to "No unaccompanied minors" signs n/t |
Occulus |
Jun-16-09 10:45 PM |
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what expressly prohibited behavior |
paulsby |
Jun-16-09 11:04 PM |
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Sadly some bars cannot accept large parties |
bluedawg12 |
Jun-17-09 01:12 AM |
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one injustice does not justify another |
paulsby |
Jun-17-09 01:26 AM |
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Oh? the first "injustice" was just policy, this is just policy re: large groups |
bluedawg12 |
Jun-17-09 09:43 AM |
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whether or not it's policy |
paulsby |
Jun-17-09 04:21 PM |
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Tempest meet teapot. I hope you weigh in on a thread about real consequences. |
bluedawg12 |
Jun-18-09 09:00 PM |
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Cocktail is a very large bar |
AngryAmish |
Jun-21-09 06:13 PM |
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Huh? |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Jun-21-09 09:30 PM |
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I was thinking of Sidetrack |
AngryAmish |
Jun-22-09 08:19 AM |
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Bullshit - it is entirely based on actions |
whopis01 |
Jun-17-09 11:08 AM |
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There aren't. Within certain parameters, proprietors are well within their rights... |
Pacifist Patriot |
Jun-17-09 02:01 PM |
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Tolerance for thee but not for me. |
timeforpeace |
Jun-16-09 08:18 PM |
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Jun-16-09 10:35 PM |
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! |
bluedawg12 |
Jun-17-09 01:08 AM |
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!!! |
guruoo |
Jun-16-09 08:26 PM |
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Good for him |
NMMNG |
Jun-16-09 08:33 PM |
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at bars or other places of public accomodation? |
paulsby |
Jun-16-09 08:45 PM |
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Ocean Grove Pavillion ring a bell? |
NMMNG |
Jun-17-09 02:12 AM |
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Were you wearing a veil and trailing a gaggle of giggling girls? |
donco6 |
Jun-18-09 07:19 PM |
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What a great way to make allies |
Clintonista2 |
Jun-16-09 08:39 PM |
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Yes, The true mission of all gay bars. |
Behind the Aegis |
Jun-17-09 01:28 AM |
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So the true mission of all gay marriage bars is gay marriage? |
Clintonista2 |
Jun-17-09 01:37 AM |
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Yes! You are so intelligent. I bet you are great at chess, too?! |
Behind the Aegis |
Jun-17-09 01:49 AM |
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If the true mission is to serve alchohol and make money |
Clintonista2 |
Jun-17-09 04:44 AM |
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Sure. Letting in large disruptive groups out from the suburbs for their.... |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Jun-17-09 10:05 AM |
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BINGO! |
donco6 |
Jun-17-09 05:50 PM |
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There are groups of women in every gay bar I've ever been to. |
donco6 |
Jun-18-09 07:51 AM |
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the owner or bartender has the right to refuse anyone a drink. |
madrchsod |
Jun-16-09 08:59 PM |
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Doesn't a business owner have the right to refuse service to anyone? |
Sebastian Doyle |
Jun-16-09 08:59 PM |
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So the next time a business owner decides to ban gays from his bar, you'll jump to his defense? |
Clintonista2 |
Jun-16-09 09:41 PM |
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Nice strawman, Dorothy |
Sebastian Doyle |
Jun-16-09 09:52 PM |
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That doesn't answer my question. |
Clintonista2 |
Jun-16-09 10:23 PM |
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so he would be banning gays because of gay marriage? |
sui generis |
Jun-17-09 01:30 PM |
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He doesn't have to prove anything. If he suspects you're gay, he can kick you out. |
Clintonista2 |
Jun-18-09 02:00 PM |
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so again, what is the problem? |
sui generis |
Jun-18-09 03:08 PM |
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If the gays are having a party - |
donco6 |
Jun-18-09 07:52 AM |
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nope. |
paulsby |
Jun-16-09 09:59 PM |
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"the owner is not within his legal rights to deny access to certain people" |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Jun-16-09 10:35 PM |
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except he isn't |
paulsby |
Jun-16-09 11:01 PM |
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"he is banning them because they are members of a group" |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Jun-17-09 09:30 AM |
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Read the article |
whopis01 |
Jun-17-09 11:18 AM |
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He absolutely can say "no bachelorette parties." |
Pacifist Patriot |
Jun-17-09 02:03 PM |
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I have mixed feelings about this, having gotten tired of being a zoo exhibit in the past. |
QC |
Jun-16-09 09:58 PM |
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+1 |
donco6 |
Jun-17-09 05:53 PM |
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Maybe the bar is banning them for their own safety and the safety of the rest of the clientele. |
hulklogan |
Jun-16-09 10:06 PM |
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The dominant culture coming to rub our nose in it. No thanks. |
bluedawg12 |
Jun-17-09 09:57 AM |
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Good! |
LeftyMom |
Jun-17-09 12:53 AM |
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rAmen |
NMMNG |
Jun-17-09 02:16 AM |
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Ha! Wow! Great rant. |
donco6 |
Jun-18-09 07:23 PM |
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Why should glbts allow hets to flaunt their marital privilege? |
keepCAblue |
Jun-17-09 09:55 AM |
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Legal or not, I'm glad he's making a statement & publicizing the issue. |
qb |
Jun-17-09 10:26 AM |
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Not gay ... go away. OK? |
GeorgeGist |
Jun-17-09 11:06 AM |
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They didn't say that -- they said no bachelorette partiers |
LostinVA |
Jun-17-09 11:25 AM |
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So, crash our institutions but we can't crash yours . . . |
sui generis |
Jun-17-09 01:32 PM |
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Not it at all. |
donco6 |
Jun-17-09 05:52 PM |
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Newsflash, to those who are "outraged": this applies to gay people too. |
Lyric |
Jun-17-09 12:23 PM |
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Jun-18-09 04:42 PM |
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Without commenting on policy, reading the statute |
Ms. Toad |
Jun-18-09 06:20 PM |
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Thank you! |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Jun-18-09 06:30 PM |
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You're welcome. |
Ms. Toad |
Jun-18-09 07:50 PM |
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I'm Not Cool With Banning People. I'm Also Not Cool WIth Rubbing People's Noses in Shit. |
Toasterlad |
Jun-18-09 08:11 PM |
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That's pretty good perspective - it's not like Bachelorettes are being denied health care |
bluedawg12 |
Jun-18-09 08:57 PM |
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Good for him! |
Withywindle |
Jun-18-09 08:44 PM |
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