LostinVA
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Mon Jun-15-09 06:39 PM
Response to Reply #42 |
| -Is the GLBT movement a civil rights movement? |
ruggerson |
Jun-14-09 12:43 PM |
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I think it's closer to "Equal Rights." |
MADem |
Jun-14-09 12:52 PM |
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Odd statement here: |
noamnety |
Jun-14-09 12:55 PM |
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Well, you know, the bashers will immediately back off, put away their clubs, |
QC |
Jun-14-09 01:02 PM |
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Exactly, becuase the bashers aren't bashing us because we're gay |
ThomCat |
Jun-14-09 02:56 PM |
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It is, you know |
NMMNG |
Jun-14-09 03:04 PM |
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"I have a choice whether I'm abstinent or not..." |
Mythsaje |
Jun-14-09 01:01 PM |
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As a black woman, I say it is. HELL YEAH! |
xultar |
Jun-14-09 01:15 PM |
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... |
ruggerson |
Jun-14-09 03:30 PM |
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Careful...there are some here who will try to take away your membership card. n/t |
QC |
Jun-15-09 01:48 PM |
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Fuck'em. |
xultar |
Jun-15-09 02:37 PM |
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I have missed you. How the hell have you been? n/t |
QC |
Jun-15-09 02:39 PM |
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Straight old woman here but yes |
Autumn |
Jun-14-09 01:52 PM |
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Apparently |
Libertas1776 |
Jun-14-09 01:53 PM |
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Goddamm right it is!!! |
TankLV |
Jun-14-09 02:03 PM |
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Rev. Byron Williams says yes, it is. |
Starry Messenger |
Jun-14-09 02:05 PM |
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thanks for posting that SM - especially the analogy he makes to Jim Crow |
ruggerson |
Jun-14-09 02:11 PM |
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That is interesting. |
Starry Messenger |
Jun-14-09 02:25 PM |
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"I'm not sure why it would be met with hostility." |
QC |
Jun-14-09 03:36 PM |
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Seems like retrograde thinking to me. |
Starry Messenger |
Jun-14-09 04:00 PM |
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An analogy to Jim Crow is a terrible analogy. |
kwassa |
Jun-15-09 01:41 PM |
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How do you, as an African American, feel that we can best draw useful parallels |
QC |
Jun-15-09 02:11 PM |
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Stick to the universal principles .... |
kwassa |
Jun-15-09 02:44 PM |
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I think that's an excellent answer, and I think it's what people are at least trying to do. |
QC |
Jun-15-09 03:33 PM |
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Rev. Williams would know what he is saying |
bluedawg12 |
Jun-15-09 03:50 PM |
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Gay men and women are estimated to be at around 5% of the population. |
bluedawg12 |
Jun-15-09 04:01 PM |
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I think it best not to use the term "Jim Crow" at all. |
kwassa |
Jun-15-09 08:31 PM |
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Agreed. Separate but equal is never equal, is the principle. n/t |
bluedawg12 |
Jun-15-09 11:38 PM |
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Oppression and discrimination against gays didn't start yesterday either. |
plantwomyn |
Jun-16-09 08:03 AM |
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The thing is |
ruggerson |
Jun-15-09 06:31 PM |
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Then you are using the phrase "Jim Crow" differently than African-Americans |
kwassa |
Jun-15-09 08:21 PM |
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Well, rest assured |
ruggerson |
Jun-15-09 11:05 PM |
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I agree. |
kwassa |
Jun-16-09 08:21 AM |
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Wow that is powerful, |
Veruca Salt |
Jun-16-09 03:34 PM |
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Yes. The ACLU has been fighting for LGBT rights for over 50 years. |
bluedawg12 |
Jun-14-09 02:15 PM |
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Of course it is |
LostinVA |
Jun-14-09 02:30 PM |
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Gays marched in Selma for racial equality |
IndianaGreen |
Jun-14-09 02:56 PM |
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Have you ever noticed? |
NMMNG |
Jun-14-09 03:02 PM |
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exactly |
ruggerson |
Jun-14-09 03:07 PM |
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yes, the people who object are generally the ones who clearly don't like us anyway. |
QC |
Jun-14-09 03:14 PM |
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EXACTLY (n/t) |
gaspee |
Jun-14-09 04:40 PM |
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NorthernSpy was axed? Good! What did it do? |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Jun-14-09 05:25 PM |
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I wish I knew the details, believe me. n/t |
QC |
Jun-14-09 05:40 PM |
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Fair point. |
Pacifist Patriot |
Jun-14-09 04:29 PM |
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the ironic thing is it's MUCH worse to be discriminated against |
sui generis |
Jun-15-09 08:20 AM |
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Sad that some people don't get that |
NMMNG |
Jun-16-09 12:51 AM |
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Yes, but discussion is academic and futile. |
Sapphocrat |
Jun-14-09 03:14 PM |
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+1 |
LostinVA |
Jun-14-09 04:09 PM |
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Well said. |
Pacifist Patriot |
Jun-14-09 04:29 PM |
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Brava! |
foxfeet |
Jun-14-09 05:18 PM |
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Absolutely, yes. Actually, I feel like repeating that: absolutely. Yes. nt |
Mark Twain Girl |
Jun-14-09 03:41 PM |
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Complete nonsense, from beginning to end. |
Smarmie Doofus |
Jun-14-09 04:08 PM |
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I'm just going to answer your headline question if you don't mind. |
Pacifist Patriot |
Jun-14-09 04:28 PM |
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+1 |
LostinVA |
Jun-14-09 05:08 PM |
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This opposition/discussion is not new. |
DURHAM D |
Jun-14-09 04:49 PM |
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Fortunately not all black people, and not all black clergy, feel this way... |
AntiFascist |
Jun-14-09 10:27 PM |
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and Al Sharpton |
ruggerson |
Jun-14-09 10:29 PM |
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Indeed, there are too many for me to recall.... |
AntiFascist |
Jun-14-09 10:34 PM |
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Ha! You'd be surprised. n/t |
Fire1 |
Jun-15-09 12:03 PM |
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What would he find surprising? n/t |
QC |
Jun-15-09 01:56 PM |
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how much twisted joy |
ruggerson |
Jun-15-09 06:32 PM |
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I suspect you are right. n/t |
QC |
Jun-15-09 06:59 PM |
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Whatever |
LostinVA |
Jun-15-09 06:39 PM |
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It is quite possible you have something of value to discuss. |
Pacifist Patriot |
Jun-16-09 07:41 AM |
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The article is racist. Ooops! But it is! |
Bluenorthwest |
Jun-15-09 08:22 AM |
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The Article Is Referring to Black Clergy In a Specific Region. |
Toasterlad |
Jun-15-09 12:58 PM |
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No. It is a Equal Rights Issue. n/t |
Fire1 |
Jun-15-09 11:50 AM |
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Right, equal civil rights |
LostinVA |
Jun-15-09 12:14 PM |
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No. you have your opinion and I have mine. Equal rights. Period. |
Fire1 |
Jun-15-09 03:09 PM |
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Your opinion is misguided, but it is indeed yours -- we are asking for equal civil rights |
LostinVA |
Jun-15-09 05:31 PM |
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Perhaps this person just enjoys being cryptic? |
Pacifist Patriot |
Jun-15-09 05:36 PM |
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I just sent you a pm -- your latter guess is correct |
LostinVA |
Jun-15-09 05:41 PM |
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having read |
ruggerson |
Jun-15-09 06:34 PM |
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This is a highly emotional issue for many African-Americans. |
kwassa |
Jun-15-09 08:41 PM |
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Who has time for sloppy reasoning? |
donco6 |
Jun-15-09 11:08 PM |
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Some issues are highly emotional for me, but that doesn't mean... |
Pacifist Patriot |
Jun-16-09 07:48 AM |
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Could you please explain the disctinction you are drawing. n/t |
QC |
Jun-15-09 01:46 PM |
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No. |
Fire1 |
Jun-15-09 03:09 PM |
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OK, so you are not here in good faith. |
QC |
Jun-15-09 03:18 PM |
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Why did you even bother to contribute anything? |
Pacifist Patriot |
Jun-15-09 05:31 PM |
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Check your PM |
LostinVA |
Jun-15-09 05:40 PM |
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Then your opinion has nothing substantial to back it up? |
LostinVA |
Jun-15-09 05:33 PM |
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? Well, that's just stupid. n/t |
donco6 |
Jun-15-09 11:06 PM |
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Sadly, Bigotry Has Never Been Exclusively White |
Toasterlad |
Jun-15-09 01:01 PM |
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How is my partner supposed to hide that he's transsexual when the govt puts FEMALE on his docs? |
readmoreoften |
Jun-15-09 01:05 PM |
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Just another excuse from the homophobic right. |
Orsino |
Jun-15-09 01:09 PM |
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it's a human rights movement . . . |
OneBlueSky |
Jun-15-09 03:16 PM |
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I'm not sure if I ever saw this posted at DU: Julian Bond, Chairman of NAACP |
Starry Messenger |
Jun-15-09 08:18 PM |
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Well obviously Julian Bond doesn't know a goddamn thing about civil rights. |
Duncan Grant |
Jun-15-09 11:00 PM |
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Right, Or Coretta King or Dr. Sylvia Rhue, the new head of NBJC |
Starry Messenger |
Jun-15-09 11:34 PM |
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That second paragraph is the epitome of eloquence. |
Pacifist Patriot |
Jun-16-09 07:43 AM |
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Agreed |
LostinVA |
Jun-16-09 07:53 AM |
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Yes. |
Iggo |
Jun-15-09 08:21 PM |
#75 |
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