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bluedawg12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 10:48 AM
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17. It seems that in this case a boy died because they had 100% tolerance for "gay baiting-bullying."
Zero tolerance is just a catch phrase, it is not the problem, consistent, sensible, enforcement of a "policy" seems to be the problem.
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  -When Words Can Kill: 'That's So Gay' La Lioness Priyanka  Apr-16-09 08:27 AM   #0 
  - I still don't understand why schools don't have 'zero-tolerance' for bullies  LynneSin   Apr-16-09 08:32 AM   #1 
  - All the school resources are going towards other zero-tolerance policies  TechBear_Seattle   Apr-16-09 08:36 AM   #3 
  - Or expelling kids for bringing cake-knives to school....  LynneSin   Apr-16-09 08:45 AM   #6 
  - That was the example I was groping for  TechBear_Seattle   Apr-16-09 09:52 AM   #10 
  - In this instance they didn't need to do anything other than listen  bluedawg12   Apr-16-09 09:54 AM   #11 
  - Exactly.  Jamastiene   Apr-16-09 07:14 PM   #32 
  - First I very strongly believe in strong enforcement of anti-bullying policies. But  rhett o rick   Apr-16-09 10:07 AM   #12 
  - It seems that in this case a boy died because they had 100% tolerance for "gay baiting-bullying."  bluedawg12   Apr-16-09 10:48 AM   #17 
  - I support sensible enforcement of a strong policy. nm  rhett o rick   Apr-16-09 11:09 AM   #20 
  - Yanno, Bluedawg12  RetiredTrotskyite   Jul-25-09 12:28 PM   #100 
  - i tend to agree. for instance if one gay student told another, you're so gay  La Lioness Priyanka   Apr-16-09 10:55 AM   #18 
  - ...while they'll strip-search a kid for suspected Ibuprofin.  yodermon   Apr-16-09 10:30 AM   #14 
  - I never knew I could get high off of shit-covered Advil  LynneSin   Apr-16-09 10:42 AM   #16 
  - My local school district does.  Kajsa   Apr-17-09 04:39 PM   #77 
  - That approach is more like active enforcement than zero-tolerance.  Jkid   Apr-20-09 03:24 PM   #90 
  - Many do have polices against bullying - they're just not enforced  HelenWheels   Apr-19-09 07:04 PM   #89 
  - Have you seen the PSA commercial featuring Wanda Sykes.......  marmar   Apr-16-09 08:36 AM   #2 
  - Yes, I saw it in the Tunnel of Oppression exhibit in the University of Maryland.  Jkid   Apr-20-09 03:26 PM   #91 
  - Oh my God! That's my old home city!  hangman86   Apr-16-09 08:43 AM   #4 
  - recommend  xchrom   Apr-16-09 08:44 AM   #5 
  - I think it was posted before, but it needs a LOT of repeating...  SacredCow   Apr-16-09 09:01 AM   #7 
  - That expression needs to die, one way or another.  JohnnyLib2   Apr-16-09 09:27 AM   #8 
  - just like "you ___ like a girl" and similar insults...  bain_sidhe   Apr-16-09 10:28 AM   #13 
     - Thank you.  Jamastiene   Apr-16-09 07:19 PM   #33 
  - Taunting and bullying a kid, a teen, anyone is harmful.  bluedawg12   Apr-16-09 09:45 AM   #9 
  - at the risk of being offensive, which is not my intent-  mopinko   Apr-16-09 10:41 AM   #15 
  - There is a rule in law called the "thin egg shell rule."  bluedawg12   Apr-16-09 11:09 AM   #19 
  - i disagree with you. years of beating down a normally mentally healthy person  La Lioness Priyanka   Apr-16-09 11:20 AM   #22 
  - i have lots of sympathy for the kid. you take me quite wrong.  mopinko   Apr-16-09 04:00 PM   #30 
  - Could it have been that he was traumatized by bullies?  Jamastiene   Apr-16-09 07:31 PM   #34 
  - they are kids. 11 and 12 years old.  mopinko   Apr-16-09 07:54 PM   #35 
  - pardon me, but go to town and take the paper..  ropi   Apr-16-09 08:07 PM   #37 
  - since when have we decided  cbiz   Apr-16-09 10:08 PM   #38 
  - :-)  ropi   Apr-16-09 10:09 PM   #39 
  - Thank you.  Jamastiene   Apr-16-09 11:45 PM   #43 
     - The horribly sad truth is, however,  cbiz   Apr-17-09 09:05 PM   #79 
  - You are the only one saying the kid was mentally ill.  Jamastiene   Apr-16-09 11:48 PM   #44 
  - so that was my problem! I was a weakling mentally  mitchtv   Jul-24-09 10:08 PM   #95 
  - This reminds me of something that happened tonight  Creideiki   Apr-17-09 01:26 AM   #48 
  - So  Vanje   Apr-17-09 11:45 AM   #58 
  - Now you suceeded in being offensive.  cboy4   Apr-17-09 02:02 PM   #69 
  - and furthermore  cbiz   Apr-17-09 09:29 PM   #80 
  - Mopinko, there was no indication that Carl  Kajsa   Apr-18-09 10:05 AM   #81 
     - the evidence is that he hanged himself.  mopinko   Apr-18-09 06:26 PM   #83 
        - In the old days, when something like this happened (I am talking  truedelphi   Jul-24-09 06:07 PM   #93 
  - thank you, thank you, and thank you, Jastamine  ropi   Apr-16-09 07:55 PM   #36 
     - There are countless numbers of children enduring bullying and  Jamastiene   Apr-17-09 12:40 AM   #47 
  - You know what? You have no clue what you're talking about  HarukaTheTrophyWife   Apr-16-09 10:12 PM   #40 
  - "The Kid"...  foreigncorrespondent   Jul-25-09 12:45 AM   #97 
  - Agreed. And on a practical note - this has cost us a fortune as a people.  imdjh   Jul-26-09 01:15 AM   #101 
  - Wow  HarukaTheTrophyWife   Apr-16-09 11:25 AM   #23 
  - i truly beg to differ with you here, mopinko  ropi   Apr-16-09 11:50 AM   #24 
  - At the risk of sounding offensive  Creideiki   Apr-16-09 01:19 PM   #25 
  - You rock!  Mopar151   Apr-16-09 01:43 PM   #27 
  - Thank you so much, I'm serious  Chovexani   Apr-16-09 03:57 PM   #29 
  - Teachers that help gay kids rock  HarukaTheTrophyWife   Apr-16-09 10:37 PM   #41 
     - I'll second that..  Smarmie Doofus   Jul-25-09 06:27 AM   #99 
  - Mind if I borrow your "brain healthy" kids and test your theory?  Duncan Grant   Apr-16-09 01:37 PM   #26 
  - I didnt take long for the "unstable Homosexual" theory  mitchtv   Apr-17-09 03:42 PM   #76 
  - But that's exactly what you're doing.  Chovexani   Apr-16-09 03:55 PM   #28 
  - This is one of the most disturbing things I have seen in more than 8 yrs on this site. n/t  QC   Apr-16-09 05:00 PM   #31 
  - Obviously, there is a lot about this situation that we don't know...  NorthernSpy   Apr-16-09 10:55 PM   #42 
  - 11 year olds would be treated very cautiously  mopinko   Apr-17-09 08:26 AM   #52 
  - Or how about the kid didn't have a "mental illness" of any magnitude  HarukaTheTrophyWife   Apr-17-09 12:08 PM   #61 
  - Being depressed by relentless bullying  Vanje   Apr-17-09 11:39 AM   #57 
  - actually its a situation YOU dont know about. a lot of gay people do know  La Lioness Priyanka   Apr-17-09 11:57 AM   #59 
  - Being percieved as gay, by bullies  Vanje   Apr-17-09 11:57 AM   #60 
     - Aww... you want so badly to disagree with me!  NorthernSpy   Apr-17-09 01:14 PM   #66 
        - know your privilege and understand that minorities understand their oppression better than others  La Lioness Priyanka   Apr-17-09 01:26 PM   #68 
           - I'm afraid I can't retaliate in kind...  NorthernSpy   Apr-17-09 02:25 PM   #71 
              - thats ok. just when you are in here, check your privilege in. nt  La Lioness Priyanka   Apr-17-09 02:38 PM   #72 
  - Im thoroughly discussed by your post.  FreeState   Apr-17-09 02:33 AM   #49 
  - As a person who spent most of her childhood in psychiatric "care"  Lilith Velkor   Apr-17-09 07:16 PM   #78 
  - You couldn't be more wrong. Your post is very unfortunate because  Midlodemocrat   Apr-17-09 06:21 AM   #51 
  - excuses and blame is exactly what i am trying to talk about. blame  mopinko   Apr-17-09 09:56 AM   #54 
     - actually asking schools to take responsibility for the damages is a necessary conversation  La Lioness Priyanka   Apr-17-09 11:15 AM   #55 
  - this is exactly the kind of arguement I've seen  indigo32   Apr-17-09 08:50 AM   #53 
  - Should a mod knowingly risk being " offensive" ?  Vanje   Apr-17-09 11:36 AM   #56 
  - mods are people, too. we are allowed to post, and to have opinions.  mopinko   Apr-17-09 12:47 PM   #62 
     - i think we understand and just disagree, given our life experiences  La Lioness Priyanka   Apr-17-09 12:53 PM   #63 
     - We understand what you're saying  HarukaTheTrophyWife   Apr-17-09 12:58 PM   #64 
        - i have had a spin or 2 around the block myself  mopinko   Apr-17-09 01:13 PM   #65 
           - Yes, but ultimately you're still straight  HarukaTheTrophyWife   Apr-17-09 01:25 PM   #67 
              - i wouldn't have done it if i didn't think it was worth the grief  mopinko   Apr-17-09 02:22 PM   #70 
                 - being forced into hating who you are, is nothing like regular pain  La Lioness Priyanka   Apr-17-09 02:48 PM   #73 
                    - like i said. you don't know me.  mopinko   Apr-17-09 03:18 PM   #74 
                       - not as presumptious as it is for you to think he had a mental illness  La Lioness Priyanka   Apr-17-09 03:25 PM   #75 
  - That is one extremely misinformed and ugly post.  Zuiderelle   Apr-19-09 08:43 AM   #84 
  - the excuses for the post are even uglier. instead of bothering to evaluate  La Lioness Priyanka   Apr-19-09 08:57 AM   #85 
  - I was in that dark place that Carl found himself on a couple of occassions  dsc   Apr-19-09 04:16 PM   #87 
     - I am very glad to hear that U managed to pull through.  truedelphi   Jul-24-09 06:09 PM   #94 
     - I had no problem in Catholic School, but  mitchtv   Jul-24-09 10:20 PM   #96 
     - Jesus. Good post. Thanks. nt  Smarmie Doofus   Jul-25-09 06:20 AM   #98 
  - I've been there.  Deep13   Apr-16-09 11:20 AM   #21 
  - K & R nt  glitch   Apr-17-09 12:00 AM   #45 
  - This boy was driven to despair, leaving behind a broken hearted mother.  bluedawg12   Apr-17-09 12:38 AM   #46 
  - K&R  Optical.Catalyst   Apr-17-09 05:28 AM   #50 
  - I feel so sorry for that little boy. People can be so cruel.  jesus_of_suburbia   Apr-18-09 05:46 PM   #82 
  - Why are so many ill-informed, ignorant, people with no empathy  roughsatori   Apr-19-09 03:53 PM   #86 
     - du has always been bigoted toward gays. occasionally it stirs up  La Lioness Priyanka   Apr-19-09 05:22 PM   #88 
     - +1  HarukaTheTrophyWife   Apr-20-09 05:35 PM   #92 
 

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