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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-10 03:33 PM
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93. Excellent research and helps
us connect the dots on everything Duncan is doing. This administration is disgustingly anti-union, and I can't believe that pro-labor folks will not find another way soon (and I don't mean voting for republicans).
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  -Education professor says Arne's plans not unique to U. S., previously carried out in Chile. madfloridian  Sep-03-10 04:41 PM   #0 
  - Kick & rec  Book Lover   Sep-03-10 04:51 PM   #1 
  - Thanks for posting this. I just skimmed the transcript...  YvonneCa   Sep-03-10 05:06 PM   #2 
  - Informative post. Thanks. They started saying our students weren't trained enough...  madfloridian   Sep-03-10 05:34 PM   #4 
  - K&R!  smokey nj   Sep-03-10 05:10 PM   #3 
  - The only power parents have is to STOP buying into this crap.  MichiganVote   Sep-03-10 05:36 PM   #5 
  - The ones who can afford to are removing their children from  TBF   Sep-04-10 03:37 PM   #94 
  - Weiner article: Think Globally, Privatize Locally  madfloridian   Sep-03-10 06:36 PM   #6 
  - Wow! thanks so much for articulating this knowledge. we had a feeling something invasive... ugly..  earcandle   Sep-04-10 01:22 AM   #24 
  - Friedman said Chile would have worked if they'd just privatized harder.  glitch   Sep-03-10 08:12 PM   #7 
  - Coincidentally, I have just gotten around to reading Naomi Klein's The Shock Doctrine  Lydia Leftcoast   Sep-03-10 09:24 PM   #8 
  - I read that book when it first came out  proud2BlibKansan   Sep-03-10 09:30 PM   #10 
  - Here's a link to the video I posted earlier  proud2BlibKansan   Sep-03-10 09:29 PM   #9 
  - Thanks, I missed that.  madfloridian   Sep-03-10 10:01 PM   #11 
  - If it's good enough for Chile, it's good enough for Murica  RufusTFirefly   Sep-03-10 10:03 PM   #12 
  - I googled it. Pretty interesting.  Tutankhamun   Sep-04-10 01:55 PM   #79 
  - You keep giving us the goods.  Jakes Progress   Sep-03-10 10:44 PM   #13 
  - They not only helped, they did it.  proud2BlibKansan   Sep-03-10 10:47 PM   #14 
  - And that is the irony--that the loyal (to a fault)Democratic foot-soldiers can't see  me b zola   Sep-03-10 11:46 PM   #18 
     - +1  readmoreoften   Sep-04-10 01:24 AM   #25 
     - some of the loyalists are fully aware, & support those things knowingly.  Hannah Bell   Sep-25-10 02:45 PM   #128 
  - ...and this thread now gets bounced into "Education" ... know how many times I've been here? Never!  defendandprotect   Sep-04-10 01:22 PM   #71 
     - A very disturbing trend, isn't it?  Ignis   Sep-04-10 02:42 PM   #86 
        - It does continue to surprise me, however . . .  defendandprotect   Sep-04-10 08:21 PM   #99 
  - Thanks for posting this information.  JDPriestly   Sep-03-10 10:54 PM   #15 
  - where`s the teachers union haters?...  madrchsod   Sep-03-10 11:16 PM   #16 
  - Disgraceful, but not unsurprsing at this point.  Danger Mouse   Sep-03-10 11:24 PM   #17 
  - Mr. Duncan?  GreenArrow   Sep-04-10 11:43 AM   #50 
  - what can I do  libmom74   Sep-04-10 12:14 AM   #19 
  - I wish I knew what to tell you  proud2BlibKansan   Sep-04-10 09:10 AM   #34 
     - What can we do?  drweinerlo   Sep-05-10 07:59 AM   #114 
        - welcome to DU!  tigereye   Sep-07-10 10:35 AM   #119 
  - "Education next", right wing astroturf site  Starry Messenger   Sep-04-10 12:34 AM   #20 
  - Two very interesting links. The DLC link I had missed.  madfloridian   Sep-04-10 03:40 PM   #95 
  - Exactly what did Pinochet do? He created grading systems for teachers?  dkf   Sep-04-10 12:41 AM   #21 
  - Privatizing and forming tiers of education.  madfloridian   Sep-04-10 01:13 AM   #22 
  - You know what? Teachers ARE being oppressed. Do some research.  madfloridian   Sep-04-10 01:15 AM   #23 
  - oh, the humanity.  Hannah Bell   Sep-04-10 04:39 AM   #30 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-04-10 09:57 AM   #38 
  - Did you read the article?  Catshrink   Sep-04-10 10:39 AM   #41 
  - Yes, and I noticed that only examples from NCLB were used to prove the argument.  Radical Activist   Sep-04-10 11:17 AM   #44 
     - NCLB is still our reality  proud2BlibKansan   Sep-04-10 12:10 PM   #52 
  - You are going to have to explain how this is dishonest  proud2BlibKansan   Sep-04-10 10:50 AM   #43 
  - The only examples used to support the claim are about NCLB, not RTTT.  Radical Activist   Sep-04-10 11:22 AM   #45 
  - A murderous dictator who privatized education in Chile  proud2BlibKansan   Sep-04-10 12:06 PM   #51 
     - If someone is going to compare a public official to a brutal dictator then the burden  Radical Activist   Sep-04-10 12:11 PM   #53 
     - I take it you missed the whole privatization of education comparison  proud2BlibKansan   Sep-04-10 12:41 PM   #57 
        - Deliberately...  Catshrink   Sep-04-10 12:45 PM   #58 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-04-10 12:51 PM   #60 
        - Not everyone has bought into the theory of a grand conspiracy to destroy public education.  Radical Activist   Sep-04-10 12:55 PM   #61 
           - I'm beginning to worry that these daily rants against Obama will do serious harm to us.  Diane R   Sep-04-10 01:02 PM   #63 
           - Nah. Conspiracy theories are generally harmless.  janx   Sep-04-10 01:04 PM   #66 
           - I'm more worried about the harm Obama will do.  Catshrink   Sep-04-10 01:21 PM   #70 
           - Amazing, isn't it? Desire to try to bury bad info rather than face it -- !!!  defendandprotect   Sep-04-10 01:33 PM   #76 
           - Let's shut them down and ignore them . . . ????  defendandprotect   Sep-04-10 01:32 PM   #74 
           - Some of us are far more concerned about the damage being done to our children  proud2BlibKansan   Sep-04-10 02:47 PM   #88 
           - Oh, screw the children and the future of the country. Just don't criticize Obama!  Ignis   Sep-04-10 03:28 PM   #92 
           - who is "us"? sorry you don't like "daily rants" about the ongoing privatization of education.  Hannah Bell   Sep-04-10 09:57 PM   #100 
           - For one of two reasons  Catshrink   Sep-04-10 01:04 PM   #65 
           - So what was "bad" under Bush's LNCB and privatizing is "good" when Obama does it--- ??  defendandprotect   Sep-04-10 01:31 PM   #73 
              - Yeah, 'cuz nothing Obama does is wrong.  Catshrink   Sep-04-10 01:33 PM   #75 
              - And it's been rebranded. Doesn't brand count for anything anymore? nt  glitch   Sep-04-10 05:53 PM   #97 
              - RTTT is not NCLB.  Radical Activist   Sep-04-10 02:18 PM   #81 
                 - No, RttT is worse.  Catshrink   Sep-04-10 02:22 PM   #83 
                 - You write without any backing evidence or supporting argument.  Radical Activist   Sep-04-10 02:37 PM   #84 
                    - No  Catshrink   Sep-04-10 02:41 PM   #85 
                 - it's an extension of nclb that uses the same tactics. all the language of turnaround etc. comes  Hannah Bell   Sep-05-10 05:32 AM   #112 
     - it is quite upsetting to see business types who have no educational back-  tigereye   Sep-07-10 10:40 AM   #120 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-04-10 02:44 PM   #87 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-04-10 02:49 PM   #89 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-04-10 02:54 PM   #90 
  - Thank you. And it always has top billing on the front page.  Diane R   Sep-04-10 01:01 PM   #62 
  - Pinochet? He didn't do much.  proud2BlibKansan   Sep-04-10 10:44 AM   #42 
  - Did you really read it?  roody   Sep-04-10 11:28 AM   #46 
     - Apparently not.  Catshrink   Sep-04-10 11:42 AM   #48 
  - One of my college profs asserted years ago that the objective of the Business Roundtable  Citizen Worker   Sep-04-10 01:44 AM   #26 
  - Business Round Table is 250 or more big corporations fighting female equality. . . .  defendandprotect   Sep-04-10 01:38 PM   #77 
  - The middle class black kid who became President due to a first class education  dkf   Sep-04-10 02:56 AM   #27 
  - Sigh...  chervilant   Sep-04-10 04:13 AM   #28 
  - to be fair, I think there are some educational systems that do seem to be  tigereye   Sep-07-10 10:47 AM   #122 
  - keep dreaming those fairy tales.  Hannah Bell   Sep-04-10 04:40 AM   #31 
  - Yes that's the goal  proud2BlibKansan   Sep-04-10 09:16 AM   #35 
  - If you think he's middle class look at where he went to school from the beginning.  Fearless   Sep-04-10 10:39 AM   #40 
  - As a middle class kid who went to private school, like Obama, on scholarship,  proud2BlibKansan   Sep-04-10 12:39 PM   #56 
  - obama's mother's family has been upper middle class for several generations.  Hannah Bell   Sep-04-10 10:11 PM   #101 
     - Makiki is NOT upper class. It looks like you can't even buy one of those residences you can only  dkf   Sep-05-10 12:02 AM   #105 
     - i don't see any mention of makiki, or "upper class".  Hannah Bell   Sep-05-10 12:29 AM   #106 
        - That is where Obama grew up, in his grandparents Punahou Circle apartment.  dkf   Sep-05-10 12:46 AM   #107 
           - gee, do you think they could have moved there to be near obama's private school, 3 blocks away?  Hannah Bell   Sep-05-10 01:41 AM   #109 
              - but I suspect that even then, property was a lot cheaper.  tigereye   Sep-07-10 10:50 AM   #124 
     - no, MGM worked her way up from a secretary to Bank VP, i think  tigereye   Sep-07-10 10:48 AM   #123 
  - He went to Punahou school on a scholarship.  dkf   Sep-04-10 11:38 PM   #104 
     - no, he went on a *partial* scholarship. his grandparents paid the rest.  Hannah Bell   Sep-05-10 02:36 AM   #110 
  - I agree with dkf. Read the chapter on Education in Jonathan Alter's book 'The Promise'.  Diane R   Sep-04-10 01:03 PM   #64 
  - Then explain his behavior ...  defendandprotect   Sep-04-10 01:39 PM   #78 
  - We used to have the best education in the world but we are steadily and surely losing  dkf   Sep-05-10 01:19 AM   #108 
     - bullshit. it's all you got.  Hannah Bell   Sep-05-10 05:30 AM   #111 
     - you are repeating a meme - please think about it  tigereye   Sep-07-10 10:53 AM   #125 
  - you would think not- you would think that he and MIchelle as products of  tigereye   Sep-07-10 10:44 AM   #121 
  - Recommend  xchrom   Sep-04-10 04:31 AM   #29 
  - Public Education is being assaulted from a multitude of sources.  olegramps   Sep-04-10 08:28 AM   #32 
  - Neoliberals think it's 'socialist' and consider it the source of liberal thought.  glitch   Sep-04-10 05:58 PM   #98 
  - +1  JCMach1   Sep-04-10 08:42 AM   #33 
  - So we'll have schools  femrap   Sep-04-10 09:46 AM   #36 
  - exactly...corporations want to control education to produce  ibegurpard   Sep-04-10 09:49 AM   #37 
  - I've only been saying this for months!  Fearless   Sep-04-10 10:36 AM   #39 
  - Another resource would be;  greiner3   Sep-04-10 11:33 AM   #47 
  - It was Ravitch's comment. In the OP but not the OP's comment  madfloridian   Sep-04-10 11:42 AM   #49 
  - A lot of failed Friedman Chicago School style economics  Cleita   Sep-04-10 12:19 PM   #54 
  - Yes, beware of Chilean style Social Security reforms.  madfloridian   Sep-04-10 12:24 PM   #55 
  - k/r  Solly Mack   Sep-04-10 12:49 PM   #59 
  - Wow... this thread has been gungeoned.  demmiblue   Sep-04-10 01:15 PM   #67 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Sep-04-10 01:17 PM   #68 
  - Change we never dreamed of, and would never choose - if we had a choice.  Jim Sagle   Sep-04-10 01:20 PM   #69 
  - K&R -- constantly looking worse than we ever dreamed under Obama!!!  defendandprotect   Sep-04-10 01:27 PM   #72 
  - This is probably the main reason I won't be a shoe in to vote for Obama in '12  AllyCat   Sep-04-10 02:08 PM   #80 
  - +1  Catshrink   Sep-04-10 02:21 PM   #82 
  - K&R n/t  DeSwiss   Sep-04-10 03:10 PM   #91 
  - Excellent research and helps  TBF   Sep-04-10 03:33 PM   #93 
  - it's bizarre since a lot of union money helped to elect him..  tigereye   Sep-07-10 10:55 AM   #126 
  - "Race to the Top."  RUMMYisFROSTED   Sep-04-10 04:39 PM   #96 
  - Wow, sick and sad that this was moved from GD  me b zola   Sep-04-10 10:20 PM   #102 
  - I agree.  madfloridian   Sep-04-10 11:19 PM   #103 
  - Why was it moved?  LWolf   Sep-05-10 11:52 AM   #115 
     - No one knows  Catshrink   Sep-05-10 12:12 PM   #116 
        - Doesn't a mod usually say something when a thread is moved?  LWolf   Sep-05-10 12:14 PM   #117 
           - check your PM  Catshrink   Sep-05-10 12:19 PM   #118 
  - It certainly is. It's too bad when threads that don't violate the rules are moved and comments that  Karmadillo   Sep-05-10 07:48 AM   #113 
  - Agreed. n/t  YvonneCa   Sep-29-11 04:42 PM   #131 
  - This needs to be reposted in some important location  Nikki Stone1   Sep-24-10 11:24 PM   #127 
  - I was just musing over the situation of the Activists in Minneapolis & Chicago today,  truedelphi   Sep-25-10 08:18 PM   #129 
  - kick  madfloridian   Sep-26-11 05:43 PM   #130 
  - Thanks for reposting this.  Smarmie Doofus   Sep-29-11 05:43 PM   #132 
  - kick  proud2BlibKansan   Sep-30-11 09:17 PM   #133 
 

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