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Fri May-14-10 10:43 PM
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| 87. I'm not talking about your boutique charter. I'm talking about charters generally, & that's |
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what's going to happen, pretend as you might that this trajectory is about groups of independent people in various locations doing their own thing.
IT'S NOT. IT'S ABOUT NETWORKS OF HIGHLY AFFILIATED BIG CAPITAL PUSHING FOR A RESULT THAT WILL BENEFIT THEM.
The fact that Mr. Smith out in podunksville likes his nice boutique charter is completely irrelevant to that trajectory.
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| -Charter schools don’t top the charts |
Catshrink |
May-11-10 07:09 AM |
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How do they do compared to other schools in their zip code? |
stray cat |
May-11-10 07:13 AM |
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The ones in my area have lower test scores |
proud2BlibKansan |
May-11-10 07:30 AM |
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maybe because the schools they came from |
mzteris |
May-11-10 02:56 PM |
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ours aren't and still they underperform. to blame the schools they |
roguevalley |
May-11-10 10:47 PM |
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I was being only a little bit flip - |
mzteris |
May-12-10 09:00 AM |
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sorry. taught forever. schools should fit kids. classrooms should |
roguevalley |
May-12-10 02:48 PM |
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But what happens when the schools and the classrooms DON'T fit the kids? |
Greyskye |
May-12-10 05:57 PM |
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first of all, I changed to fit the kid because our school district didn't |
roguevalley |
May-12-10 10:44 PM |
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good for you for changing - |
mzteris |
May-13-10 09:19 AM |
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. |
harry_pothead |
May-19-10 04:54 PM |
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yes, they should. |
mzteris |
May-12-10 06:45 PM |
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no, you advocate for charter schools all the time. charter schools are |
Hannah Bell |
May-14-10 02:14 AM |
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sure, that's why the scores are LOWER than they were in the schools they came from. |
Hannah Bell |
May-14-10 02:13 AM |
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You are correct |
Bryan Buchan |
May-11-10 07:33 AM |
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I was under the impression that all charter schools were either |
Frustratedlady |
May-11-10 07:43 AM |
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NOPE. |
mzteris |
May-11-10 11:39 AM |
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yes, it is. the person you asked the question of gets her information from walmart's |
Hannah Bell |
May-14-10 02:15 AM |
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The last answer you just received is a lie. |
Greyskye |
May-14-10 02:25 PM |
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The "last answer" was to the question of whether the goal of the charter school movement is to shut |
Hannah Bell |
May-14-10 02:55 PM |
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Can we agree on this? |
Greyskye |
May-14-10 05:52 PM |
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no, we can't. the democratic party is quite well organized, & so is the charter school movement. |
Hannah Bell |
May-18-10 02:58 AM |
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Charters are NEVER "privately owned" |
mzteris |
May-11-10 11:37 AM |
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uh, yes, they are. for-profit charter schools are indeed "privately owned." |
Hannah Bell |
May-14-10 02:17 AM |
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sorry straycat, you're wrong about that. |
Mr Generic Other |
May-11-10 07:47 AM |
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Two reasons: One, Obama is for it, |
tonysam |
May-11-10 09:37 AM |
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and there are DU"ERS who know me - personally - |
mzteris |
May-11-10 11:52 AM |
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Yep. |
Catshrink |
May-11-10 02:17 PM |
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and some people hate Obama SO MUCH |
mzteris |
May-11-10 02:53 PM |
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The "hate obama" card!!! lol!!! |
Hannah Bell |
May-14-10 02:18 AM |
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btw - |
mzteris |
May-11-10 02:54 PM |
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NO NO NO NO NO!! |
mzteris |
May-11-10 11:51 AM |
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+1000 |
Greyskye |
May-11-10 09:28 PM |
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May-11-10 09:30 PM |
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May-11-10 09:38 PM |
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May-11-10 10:40 PM |
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A question about the two schools you mention |
Catshrink |
May-11-10 10:18 PM |
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I can answer some of those off the top of my head. |
Greyskye |
May-11-10 10:36 PM |
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"Charter schools can cherry pick their students while public schools must take all comers." |
NYC_SKP |
May-11-10 10:51 PM |
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hey - I do have one small correction - |
mzteris |
May-11-10 11:18 PM |
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Thanks... |
NYC_SKP |
May-11-10 11:23 PM |
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um - aren't they a non-profit management organization? |
mzteris |
May-12-10 09:16 AM |
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Distinction without a difference |
tonysam |
May-12-10 02:52 PM |
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but they ARE accountable to the attendees, |
mzteris |
May-12-10 06:50 PM |
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bullshit. |
Hannah Bell |
May-14-10 02:43 AM |
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May-12-10 02:50 PM |
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Wrong. |
Greyskye |
May-12-10 03:25 PM |
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wrong |
proud2BlibKansan |
May-12-10 04:29 PM |
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You can't compare charter schools across state lines. |
Greyskye |
May-12-10 05:52 PM |
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So you can't judge charters either |
proud2BlibKansan |
May-12-10 05:55 PM |
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I certainly don't attempt to judge YOUR charters. |
Greyskye |
May-12-10 06:01 PM |
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maybe you need to widen your scope, then. |
mzteris |
May-12-10 06:56 PM |
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nor where you live, despite your walmart fact sheet. |
Hannah Bell |
May-14-10 03:09 AM |
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yet california charter schools are more segregated than california public schools. |
Hannah Bell |
May-14-10 03:08 AM |
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kids can and do get "kicked out of" traditionals |
mzteris |
May-12-10 06:55 PM |
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evidently you have trouble believing anything |
mzteris |
May-12-10 06:54 PM |
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Charters do NOT "cherry pick" - that, my dear, |
mzteris |
May-11-10 11:17 PM |
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of course they do. and of course, since the privatizers have established test |
Hannah Bell |
May-14-10 02:58 PM |
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Thoughts from a teacher. |
Greyskye |
May-11-10 11:26 PM |
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+ 1,000,000 |
mzteris |
May-12-10 09:08 AM |
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A platform of the Demcratic party has been support for strong public schools |
proud2BlibKansan |
May-12-10 04:50 PM |
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Charter schools ARE PUBLIC schools! |
mzteris |
May-12-10 07:18 PM |
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bullshit. |
Hannah Bell |
May-14-10 02:59 PM |
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My wife informs me that I was wrong about one of my statements. |
Greyskye |
May-12-10 01:35 PM |
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see? You're such a LIAR!!! |
mzteris |
May-12-10 07:19 PM |
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LOL |
Greyskye |
May-12-10 07:26 PM |
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You aren't going to profit |
proud2BlibKansan |
May-12-10 08:03 PM |
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. |
Greyskye |
May-12-10 08:11 PM |
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as long as the kids do, |
mzteris |
May-12-10 10:23 PM |
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they haven't so far, & they're not going to either. |
Hannah Bell |
May-14-10 03:11 AM |
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Correction to one thing. |
Greyskye |
May-12-10 12:09 AM |
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my son's charter is located in the exact same building as |
mzteris |
May-12-10 09:03 AM |
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The existence of credible charter schools does not mitigate the following: |
Hannah Bell |
May-14-10 02:41 AM |
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BULLSHIT. You've been corrected repeatedly & you just keep flinging it. |
Hannah Bell |
May-14-10 02:24 AM |
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And you keep doing the one thing that kills your credibility. |
Greyskye |
May-14-10 01:24 PM |
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the poster stated there are no for-profit charters. your comments are irrelevant to the truth or |
Hannah Bell |
May-14-10 01:38 PM |
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Your repeated comments on the problems of ALL charters in EVERY state... |
Greyskye |
May-14-10 02:09 PM |
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i have acknowledged there are good charters. however, that fact has little weight |
Hannah Bell |
May-14-10 02:54 PM |
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Please point me to where you have made that acknowledgment. |
Greyskye |
May-14-10 06:16 PM |
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i will when you link me to one place where any of the contingent of pro-charter school people |
Hannah Bell |
May-14-10 11:11 PM |
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I see you can't. |
Greyskye |
May-15-10 12:19 AM |
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Let me refresh your memory: 1)*you* jumped in to respond to a comment i made to the other poster. |
Hannah Bell |
May-15-10 12:42 AM |
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I'll take that bet for anything you care to wager. |
Greyskye |
May-15-10 01:46 PM |
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1) I said nothing like "there aren't legal differences in the charter laws in different states" |
Hannah Bell |
May-15-10 11:28 PM |
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One other point: |
Greyskye |
May-14-10 06:43 PM |
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many of the non-profit management companies have for-profit arms. |
Hannah Bell |
May-14-10 11:02 PM |
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That is not the case in California. |
Greyskye |
May-14-10 11:43 PM |
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you notice my wording: "many". Many. Many, Many. |
Hannah Bell |
May-15-10 12:05 AM |
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you got it, greyskye - |
mzteris |
May-14-10 06:06 PM |
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no point in you repeatedly posting information that's false, you mean? |
Hannah Bell |
May-14-10 11:36 PM |
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link me to those comments, about problems of ALL charters in EVERY state. |
Hannah Bell |
May-15-10 12:49 AM |
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Quality and Charter Achievement |
mzteris |
May-11-10 11:24 AM |
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sure about that? |
mzteris |
May-11-10 11:36 AM |
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Charter Schools |
RetAZEd |
May-14-10 10:58 AM |
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Things "might" be different, but will not be different, because quality education isn't the aim. |
Hannah Bell |
May-14-10 03:01 PM |
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When you broad-brush all charters like that, you are lying. |
Greyskye |
May-14-10 05:57 PM |
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I'm not talking about your boutique charter. I'm talking about charters generally, & that's |
Hannah Bell |
May-14-10 10:43 PM |
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5 schools, 1000 students, 2 counties, 4 school districts... |
Greyskye |
May-14-10 11:17 PM |
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whatever. 1000 students. it's not about your 1000 students. |
Hannah Bell |
May-14-10 11:28 PM |
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Schools Matter is not reliable |
proud2BlibKansan |
May-14-10 06:01 PM |
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additional fact |
RetAZEd |
May-14-10 03:06 PM |
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Welcome to DU. |
Greyskye |
May-14-10 06:35 PM |
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Final Thoughts. |
Greyskye |
May-15-10 02:04 PM |
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That Public Charters website--interesting. |
Starry Messenger |
May-15-10 04:25 PM |
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kansas city had the funding - |
mzteris |
May-15-10 07:08 PM |
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josh edelman is marion wright edelman's son. |
Hannah Bell |
May-15-10 11:37 PM |
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That's disappoinying |
proud2BlibKansan |
May-16-10 02:12 AM |
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your attempts to cordon off your state's charters |
Hannah Bell |
May-15-10 11:39 PM |
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The charter school craze is eventually going to go the way of the voucher |
harry_pothead |
May-19-10 04:53 PM |
#107 |
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