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Tue May-11-10 02:17 PM
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| -Charter schools don’t top the charts |
Catshrink |
May-11-10 07:09 AM |
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How do they do compared to other schools in their zip code? |
stray cat |
May-11-10 07:13 AM |
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The ones in my area have lower test scores |
proud2BlibKansan |
May-11-10 07:30 AM |
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maybe because the schools they came from |
mzteris |
May-11-10 02:56 PM |
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ours aren't and still they underperform. to blame the schools they |
roguevalley |
May-11-10 10:47 PM |
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I was being only a little bit flip - |
mzteris |
May-12-10 09:00 AM |
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sorry. taught forever. schools should fit kids. classrooms should |
roguevalley |
May-12-10 02:48 PM |
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But what happens when the schools and the classrooms DON'T fit the kids? |
Greyskye |
May-12-10 05:57 PM |
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first of all, I changed to fit the kid because our school district didn't |
roguevalley |
May-12-10 10:44 PM |
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good for you for changing - |
mzteris |
May-13-10 09:19 AM |
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. |
harry_pothead |
May-19-10 04:54 PM |
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yes, they should. |
mzteris |
May-12-10 06:45 PM |
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no, you advocate for charter schools all the time. charter schools are |
Hannah Bell |
May-14-10 02:14 AM |
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sure, that's why the scores are LOWER than they were in the schools they came from. |
Hannah Bell |
May-14-10 02:13 AM |
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You are correct |
Bryan Buchan |
May-11-10 07:33 AM |
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I was under the impression that all charter schools were either |
Frustratedlady |
May-11-10 07:43 AM |
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NOPE. |
mzteris |
May-11-10 11:39 AM |
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yes, it is. the person you asked the question of gets her information from walmart's |
Hannah Bell |
May-14-10 02:15 AM |
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The last answer you just received is a lie. |
Greyskye |
May-14-10 02:25 PM |
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The "last answer" was to the question of whether the goal of the charter school movement is to shut |
Hannah Bell |
May-14-10 02:55 PM |
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Can we agree on this? |
Greyskye |
May-14-10 05:52 PM |
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no, we can't. the democratic party is quite well organized, & so is the charter school movement. |
Hannah Bell |
May-18-10 02:58 AM |
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Charters are NEVER "privately owned" |
mzteris |
May-11-10 11:37 AM |
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uh, yes, they are. for-profit charter schools are indeed "privately owned." |
Hannah Bell |
May-14-10 02:17 AM |
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sorry straycat, you're wrong about that. |
Mr Generic Other |
May-11-10 07:47 AM |
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Two reasons: One, Obama is for it, |
tonysam |
May-11-10 09:37 AM |
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and there are DU"ERS who know me - personally - |
mzteris |
May-11-10 11:52 AM |
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Yep. |
Catshrink |
May-11-10 02:17 PM |
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and some people hate Obama SO MUCH |
mzteris |
May-11-10 02:53 PM |
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The "hate obama" card!!! lol!!! |
Hannah Bell |
May-14-10 02:18 AM |
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btw - |
mzteris |
May-11-10 02:54 PM |
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NO NO NO NO NO!! |
mzteris |
May-11-10 11:51 AM |
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+1000 |
Greyskye |
May-11-10 09:28 PM |
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May-11-10 09:30 PM |
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May-11-10 09:38 PM |
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May-11-10 10:40 PM |
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A question about the two schools you mention |
Catshrink |
May-11-10 10:18 PM |
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I can answer some of those off the top of my head. |
Greyskye |
May-11-10 10:36 PM |
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"Charter schools can cherry pick their students while public schools must take all comers." |
NYC_SKP |
May-11-10 10:51 PM |
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hey - I do have one small correction - |
mzteris |
May-11-10 11:18 PM |
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Thanks... |
NYC_SKP |
May-11-10 11:23 PM |
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um - aren't they a non-profit management organization? |
mzteris |
May-12-10 09:16 AM |
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Distinction without a difference |
tonysam |
May-12-10 02:52 PM |
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but they ARE accountable to the attendees, |
mzteris |
May-12-10 06:50 PM |
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bullshit. |
Hannah Bell |
May-14-10 02:43 AM |
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May-12-10 02:50 PM |
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Wrong. |
Greyskye |
May-12-10 03:25 PM |
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wrong |
proud2BlibKansan |
May-12-10 04:29 PM |
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You can't compare charter schools across state lines. |
Greyskye |
May-12-10 05:52 PM |
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So you can't judge charters either |
proud2BlibKansan |
May-12-10 05:55 PM |
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I certainly don't attempt to judge YOUR charters. |
Greyskye |
May-12-10 06:01 PM |
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maybe you need to widen your scope, then. |
mzteris |
May-12-10 06:56 PM |
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nor where you live, despite your walmart fact sheet. |
Hannah Bell |
May-14-10 03:09 AM |
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yet california charter schools are more segregated than california public schools. |
Hannah Bell |
May-14-10 03:08 AM |
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kids can and do get "kicked out of" traditionals |
mzteris |
May-12-10 06:55 PM |
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evidently you have trouble believing anything |
mzteris |
May-12-10 06:54 PM |
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Charters do NOT "cherry pick" - that, my dear, |
mzteris |
May-11-10 11:17 PM |
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of course they do. and of course, since the privatizers have established test |
Hannah Bell |
May-14-10 02:58 PM |
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Thoughts from a teacher. |
Greyskye |
May-11-10 11:26 PM |
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+ 1,000,000 |
mzteris |
May-12-10 09:08 AM |
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A platform of the Demcratic party has been support for strong public schools |
proud2BlibKansan |
May-12-10 04:50 PM |
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Charter schools ARE PUBLIC schools! |
mzteris |
May-12-10 07:18 PM |
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bullshit. |
Hannah Bell |
May-14-10 02:59 PM |
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My wife informs me that I was wrong about one of my statements. |
Greyskye |
May-12-10 01:35 PM |
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see? You're such a LIAR!!! |
mzteris |
May-12-10 07:19 PM |
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LOL |
Greyskye |
May-12-10 07:26 PM |
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You aren't going to profit |
proud2BlibKansan |
May-12-10 08:03 PM |
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. |
Greyskye |
May-12-10 08:11 PM |
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as long as the kids do, |
mzteris |
May-12-10 10:23 PM |
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they haven't so far, & they're not going to either. |
Hannah Bell |
May-14-10 03:11 AM |
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Correction to one thing. |
Greyskye |
May-12-10 12:09 AM |
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my son's charter is located in the exact same building as |
mzteris |
May-12-10 09:03 AM |
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The existence of credible charter schools does not mitigate the following: |
Hannah Bell |
May-14-10 02:41 AM |
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BULLSHIT. You've been corrected repeatedly & you just keep flinging it. |
Hannah Bell |
May-14-10 02:24 AM |
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And you keep doing the one thing that kills your credibility. |
Greyskye |
May-14-10 01:24 PM |
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the poster stated there are no for-profit charters. your comments are irrelevant to the truth or |
Hannah Bell |
May-14-10 01:38 PM |
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Your repeated comments on the problems of ALL charters in EVERY state... |
Greyskye |
May-14-10 02:09 PM |
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i have acknowledged there are good charters. however, that fact has little weight |
Hannah Bell |
May-14-10 02:54 PM |
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Please point me to where you have made that acknowledgment. |
Greyskye |
May-14-10 06:16 PM |
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i will when you link me to one place where any of the contingent of pro-charter school people |
Hannah Bell |
May-14-10 11:11 PM |
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I see you can't. |
Greyskye |
May-15-10 12:19 AM |
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Let me refresh your memory: 1)*you* jumped in to respond to a comment i made to the other poster. |
Hannah Bell |
May-15-10 12:42 AM |
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I'll take that bet for anything you care to wager. |
Greyskye |
May-15-10 01:46 PM |
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1) I said nothing like "there aren't legal differences in the charter laws in different states" |
Hannah Bell |
May-15-10 11:28 PM |
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One other point: |
Greyskye |
May-14-10 06:43 PM |
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many of the non-profit management companies have for-profit arms. |
Hannah Bell |
May-14-10 11:02 PM |
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That is not the case in California. |
Greyskye |
May-14-10 11:43 PM |
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you notice my wording: "many". Many. Many, Many. |
Hannah Bell |
May-15-10 12:05 AM |
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you got it, greyskye - |
mzteris |
May-14-10 06:06 PM |
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no point in you repeatedly posting information that's false, you mean? |
Hannah Bell |
May-14-10 11:36 PM |
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link me to those comments, about problems of ALL charters in EVERY state. |
Hannah Bell |
May-15-10 12:49 AM |
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Quality and Charter Achievement |
mzteris |
May-11-10 11:24 AM |
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sure about that? |
mzteris |
May-11-10 11:36 AM |
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Charter Schools |
RetAZEd |
May-14-10 10:58 AM |
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Things "might" be different, but will not be different, because quality education isn't the aim. |
Hannah Bell |
May-14-10 03:01 PM |
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When you broad-brush all charters like that, you are lying. |
Greyskye |
May-14-10 05:57 PM |
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I'm not talking about your boutique charter. I'm talking about charters generally, & that's |
Hannah Bell |
May-14-10 10:43 PM |
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5 schools, 1000 students, 2 counties, 4 school districts... |
Greyskye |
May-14-10 11:17 PM |
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whatever. 1000 students. it's not about your 1000 students. |
Hannah Bell |
May-14-10 11:28 PM |
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Schools Matter is not reliable |
proud2BlibKansan |
May-14-10 06:01 PM |
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additional fact |
RetAZEd |
May-14-10 03:06 PM |
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Welcome to DU. |
Greyskye |
May-14-10 06:35 PM |
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Final Thoughts. |
Greyskye |
May-15-10 02:04 PM |
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That Public Charters website--interesting. |
Starry Messenger |
May-15-10 04:25 PM |
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kansas city had the funding - |
mzteris |
May-15-10 07:08 PM |
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josh edelman is marion wright edelman's son. |
Hannah Bell |
May-15-10 11:37 PM |
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That's disappoinying |
proud2BlibKansan |
May-16-10 02:12 AM |
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your attempts to cordon off your state's charters |
Hannah Bell |
May-15-10 11:39 PM |
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The charter school craze is eventually going to go the way of the voucher |
harry_pothead |
May-19-10 04:53 PM |
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