tonysam
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Sat Apr-17-10 03:49 PM
Response to Reply #45 |
| 48. Keep pushing this garbage of "choice" and other rot. |
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I guess you really don't give a flying fig about what is really happening in education.
You just peddle a bunch of nonsense that has nothing to do with what is going on.
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| -Howard Dean thinks we need to give Obama more time |
proud2BlibKansan |
Apr-17-10 01:30 PM |
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Sounds like he is just plain unaware, or else just doesn't care. |
madfloridian |
Apr-17-10 01:37 PM |
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Yes that's the AFT charter he mentioned |
proud2BlibKansan |
Apr-17-10 01:43 PM |
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I am sure he is aware, like all of the Democrats in charge |
tonysam |
Apr-17-10 02:35 PM |
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Howard Dean cares about a lot but he may have a different opinion about charter schools |
tavalon |
Apr-17-10 04:27 PM |
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Interesting... I would like to know what he thinks about the demonizing of public school teachers. |
GreenPartyVoter |
Apr-17-10 01:38 PM |
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I honestly got the impression he wasn't aware of this |
proud2BlibKansan |
Apr-17-10 10:51 PM |
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He was surprised that Obama stickers are off teachers' cars? |
Catshrink |
Apr-17-10 01:38 PM |
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Well it's a fairly new issue |
proud2BlibKansan |
Apr-17-10 01:46 PM |
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well, let's be fair - only off SOME teachers' cars... |
mzteris |
Apr-17-10 01:59 PM |
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I look forward to hearing more about your lunch. |
LWolf |
Apr-17-10 01:39 PM |
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Here's why he won't say anything at all against charters. |
madfloridian |
Apr-17-10 01:41 PM |
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We're screwn. |
Catshrink |
Apr-17-10 01:49 PM |
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didya ever stop to think that just MAYBE |
mzteris |
Apr-17-10 02:01 PM |
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They know how to turn education into profit. |
madfloridian |
Apr-17-10 02:02 PM |
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They THINK they do |
tonysam |
Apr-17-10 02:39 PM |
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I completely and totallly support PUBLIC EDUCATION - |
mzteris |
Apr-17-10 02:54 PM |
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Perhaps some of them are trying to create conditions in which things that are more of a hybrid would |
patrice |
Apr-17-10 03:20 PM |
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Not really. This is about limiting access to higher education. |
tonysam |
Apr-17-10 03:24 PM |
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So what stops teachers/unions from creating their own schools, to solve their |
patrice |
Apr-17-10 03:39 PM |
#45 |
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Keep pushing this garbage of "choice" and other rot. |
tonysam |
Apr-17-10 03:49 PM |
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Garbage of "choice" . . . interesting phrase - |
mzteris |
Apr-17-10 05:47 PM |
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Frustrating, isn't it? |
alstephenson |
Apr-19-10 05:23 PM |
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Money. That's what stops them. |
proud2BlibKansan |
Apr-17-10 04:28 PM |
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p2bl - I will personally help you write the proposals |
mzteris |
Apr-17-10 05:51 PM |
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oh wow! What a GREAT IDEA! Why didn't someone |
mzteris |
Apr-17-10 05:30 PM |
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WHAT? |
mzteris |
Apr-17-10 05:29 PM |
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Nope. Not a chance of that. |
adnelson60087 |
Apr-17-10 02:39 PM |
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never been inside a classroom? |
mzteris |
Apr-17-10 02:51 PM |
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Wow. You really went there. |
alstephenson |
Apr-19-10 05:27 PM |
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Ha! Good luck with that train of thought around here... |
alstephenson |
Apr-19-10 05:16 PM |
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The problem with that children's zone model |
proud2BlibKansan |
Apr-17-10 01:49 PM |
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I agree, good for Howard.. |
DCBob |
Apr-17-10 01:45 PM |
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More about Geoffrey Canada and his zero tolerance creed. |
madfloridian |
Apr-17-10 01:51 PM |
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And what happened to 7th and 8th grades? |
madfloridian |
Apr-17-10 01:53 PM |
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Ssshhhhhh |
Catshrink |
Apr-17-10 01:58 PM |
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is Dean the new face of the New Dem approach to corporate educating? |
nightrain |
Apr-17-10 01:55 PM |
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Most Democratic leaders are on board with corporate educating. |
madfloridian |
Apr-17-10 01:59 PM |
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Oh, come on. |
alstephenson |
Apr-19-10 05:30 PM |
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so is the Dean bashing going to start now? n/t |
mzteris |
Apr-17-10 01:58 PM |
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yes |
patrice |
Apr-17-10 02:50 PM |
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Yes Again (nt) |
Dinger |
Apr-20-10 09:01 AM |
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Geoffrey attacks unions. |
madfloridian |
Apr-17-10 02:05 PM |
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Geoffrey says adults are to blame for any failures in kids' lives. |
madfloridian |
Apr-17-10 02:12 PM |
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"Kids are responsible for learning and for behavior." |
Catshrink |
Apr-17-10 02:19 PM |
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+100! |
mzteris |
Apr-17-10 03:00 PM |
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Recommended and thanks for sharing with us his thoughts. |
NYC_SKP |
Apr-17-10 02:19 PM |
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one more time: ALL CHARTER schools are PUBLIC schools! |
mzteris |
Apr-17-10 06:16 PM |
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. |
NYC_SKP |
Apr-17-10 06:41 PM |
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The "fuss" is all bs stuff. |
mzteris |
Apr-17-10 08:33 PM |
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That is just absolutely not true. |
madfloridian |
Apr-19-10 05:30 PM |
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Save your time and effort, mzteris. |
alstephenson |
Apr-19-10 05:33 PM |
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I understand what he means but |
zipplewrath |
Apr-17-10 02:27 PM |
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Dean also said |
proud2BlibKansan |
Apr-17-10 02:49 PM |
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and we should LISTEN to each other! |
mzteris |
Apr-17-10 03:01 PM |
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He listens |
zipplewrath |
Apr-17-10 03:26 PM |
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Howard DEAN? n/t |
mzteris |
Apr-17-10 05:52 PM |
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Yeah, but remember what Rahm said. |
Catshrink |
Apr-17-10 03:08 PM |
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I interpreted that to mean, |
mzteris |
Apr-17-10 02:58 PM |
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Three more years |
zipplewrath |
Apr-17-10 03:23 PM |
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"reject your ideas" |
mzteris |
Apr-17-10 05:10 PM |
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No, I expect him not to brag |
zipplewrath |
Apr-18-10 11:06 AM |
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Dean is a reformer, not a press secretary for the NEA |
bluestateguy |
Apr-17-10 02:55 PM |
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That is not "reform". That is privatization of education. |
madfloridian |
Apr-17-10 02:56 PM |
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I'm not in that latter category |
proud2BlibKansan |
Apr-17-10 03:15 PM |
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Yeah, and the rest are shills for the charter school industry. |
Catshrink |
Apr-17-10 03:17 PM |
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No, they/we are not! |
mzteris |
Apr-17-10 05:55 PM |
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I think the fundamental criteria should be Function & Commitment. |
patrice |
Apr-17-10 02:59 PM |
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The main problem with education, IMO, is the lack of a standardized curriculum. |
SPedigrees |
Apr-17-10 03:32 PM |
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Dirty words, those! But I am with you on that. There NEEDS to be a balance and there's nothing even |
patrice |
Apr-17-10 03:43 PM |
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Yeah because every single teacher and every single student in every single school |
Catshrink |
Apr-17-10 05:41 PM |
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see? You do get some of the concepts . . . |
mzteris |
Apr-17-10 06:09 PM |
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Dean talked about standards too |
proud2BlibKansan |
Apr-17-10 10:56 PM |
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ITA with that. |
Catshrink |
Apr-17-10 11:05 PM |
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Teachers had plenty of lattitude to teach creatively or otherwise when I went to school. |
SPedigrees |
Apr-18-10 12:25 AM |
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Diane Ravitch addresses this in her book. |
Catshrink |
Apr-17-10 03:44 PM |
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"keep our message focused on the kids" |
madfloridian |
Apr-17-10 03:53 PM |
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Look at it this way: |
proud2BlibKansan |
Apr-17-10 04:42 PM |
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I disagree. |
madfloridian |
Apr-17-10 06:01 PM |
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And I agree with you completely |
proud2BlibKansan |
Apr-17-10 10:48 PM |
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And so often we assume our concern for children is implicit |
Catshrink |
Apr-17-10 11:07 PM |
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I fully believe that you - most of you - |
mzteris |
Apr-18-10 12:45 AM |
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oh puhleeze - |
mzteris |
Apr-18-10 12:43 AM |
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"We can unite if we focus on kids." |
mzteris |
Apr-17-10 06:11 PM |
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Doctor Dean is absolutely right |
NJmaverick |
Apr-17-10 03:53 PM |
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Spoken like a politician...who does not "get" education. |
MichiganVote |
Apr-18-10 11:03 AM |
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Exactly right. |
madfloridian |
Apr-18-10 11:14 AM |
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He never did have much of a platform for education n/t |
MichiganVote |
Apr-18-10 05:39 PM |
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What a reasonable response. |
alstephenson |
Apr-19-10 05:14 PM |
#80 |
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