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musette_sf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-11 02:29 PM
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43. Autonomy for women IS a good thing.
There are SO many reasons why a woman wants and/or needs to terminate a pregnancy, that it really is none of ANYONE'S business except the woman herself.

I have no compunctions about stating flat out that availability of safe and legal abortion IS A GOOD THING.

I came of age when abortion was first being legalized in the more progressive states, and my reaction to this was JOY, RELIEF, and STRENGTH.

Sorry, but I, and millions of other women, are just not going to wring our hands and play Ain't It Awful over legalized abortion rights. America DID do better when US female citizens finally realized bodily autonomy. We don't need or want your morose puling over your personal emotions regarding the human, civil and Constitutional rights of US female citizens.

Be a Democrat, or be gone.
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  -Is abortion for the purpose of sex selection immoral? Pterodactyl  Jun-20-11 08:19 PM   #0 
  - Every time they make the decision to give up a girl  Drale   Jun-20-11 08:22 PM   #1 
  - IMHO China could use some form of "major population disaster" - one that  kestrel91316   Jun-20-11 09:45 PM   #17 
  - Huh? Care to elaborate?  Pterodactyl   Jun-20-11 09:59 PM   #20 
     - I'm just saying that they have a huge population, and it is going to pose a HUGE  kestrel91316   Jun-21-11 10:40 AM   #22 
        - OK. For a moment there, I thought you might have been hoping for the deaths of millions of people!  Pterodactyl   Jun-21-11 09:18 PM   #25 
  - +1  jul61252   Jul-02-11 03:12 PM   #31 
  - I would think it would create more social problems rather than a population disaster  Starboard Tack   Jul-30-11 04:43 PM   #50 
  - In my mind, I think it is.  sakabatou   Jun-20-11 08:23 PM   #2 
  - Is it immoral to attempt to conceive a particular sex?  uppityperson   Jun-21-11 02:19 PM   #24 
     - No more immoral than wishing, hoping or praying for one or the other.  Starboard Tack   Jul-30-11 04:50 PM   #52 
  - I don't know...  CaliforniaPeggy   Jun-20-11 08:24 PM   #3 
  - Abortion is between a woman and her doctor  Ohio Joe   Jun-20-11 08:25 PM   #4 
  - +1000  jul61252   Jul-02-11 03:13 PM   #32 
  - say buh bye to jul61252!  iverglas   Aug-21-11 02:26 AM   #59 
     - Wow. that is something.  uppityperson   Aug-21-11 01:43 PM   #60 
        - nah, seems to have been random  iverglas   Aug-21-11 02:50 PM   #61 
  - Abortion is between a woman and herself  Starboard Tack   Jul-30-11 04:54 PM   #53 
  - I don't think the standard should be pure morality, but rather ethics.  no_hypocrisy   Jun-20-11 08:27 PM   #5 
  - Immoral is a slippery term.  TheWraith   Jun-20-11 08:29 PM   #6 
  - Should humans engage in breeding programs??  Angry Dragon   Jun-20-11 08:30 PM   #7 
  - My neighbor has adopted three Chinese girls.  Brianboru   Jun-20-11 08:30 PM   #8 
  - Your neighbor is AWESOME!  Pterodactyl   Jun-20-11 08:42 PM   #11 
     - They are great kids - and two other families also adopted girls.  Brianboru   Jun-20-11 09:15 PM   #15 
  - Depends on what you use as your moral compass.  ZombieHorde   Jun-20-11 08:32 PM   #9 
  - It seems here the goal is to only give birth to boys at the expense of girls.  Pterodactyl   Jun-20-11 09:02 PM   #14 
     - That is goal of the abortions, I was referring to the goal of one's morality.  ZombieHorde   Jun-20-11 10:16 PM   #21 
        - Yeah, that's what I was saying. Their goal is boys.  Pterodactyl   Jun-21-11 09:19 PM   #26 
           - The boys are more likely to be a means to an ultimate goal. nt  ZombieHorde   Jun-21-11 10:39 PM   #28 
  - What's immoral is the favoring of males that engenders this sort of behavior.  snagglepuss   Jun-20-11 08:34 PM   #10 
  - + 1,000! nt  left coaster   Jun-20-11 08:51 PM   #13 
  - Exactly. But by the same token, no good can come of forced childbearing.  kestrel91316   Jun-20-11 09:48 PM   #19 
  - Not when it's done because the parents carry a sex-specific genetic disease marker. n/t  Ian David   Jun-20-11 08:45 PM   #12 
  - Abortion is a private decision. If a woman feels that she cannot love and  kestrel91316   Jun-20-11 09:42 PM   #16 
  - Either sex selection is moral or it is immoral - abortion is largely irrelevant  saras   Jun-20-11 09:47 PM   #18 
  - Is attempting to conceive one sex immoral?  uppityperson   Jun-21-11 02:17 PM   #23 
     - Great Post  libguy_6731   Aug-06-11 03:28 PM   #58 
  - The answer is yes. Yes, it is.  Pterodactyl   Jun-21-11 09:22 PM   #27 
  - Using that logic, do you feel all abortions are immoral? Since they get "deselected" for not being  uppityperson   Jul-02-11 05:39 PM   #33 
     - Yes, nearly all would be.  Pterodactyl   Jul-06-11 08:14 PM   #35 
        - In what case is an abortion not "immoral"? When, if ever, should they be legal?  uppityperson   Jul-08-11 11:56 AM   #37 
        - In cases of self defense.  Pterodactyl   Jul-08-11 02:20 PM   #38 
           - self defense how? Thank you. Not sure what you mean, if you could clarify  uppityperson   Jul-08-11 02:21 PM   #39 
              - When the mother's life is endangered.  Pterodactyl   Jul-13-11 09:17 PM   #41 
                 - You do not think early abortions are moral, only late term ones if the mother's life is endangered.  uppityperson   Jul-16-11 09:52 PM   #48 
        - So disheartening  musette_sf   Jul-10-11 08:18 PM   #40 
           - That does not mean it is a good thing. America can do better.  Pterodactyl   Jul-13-11 09:19 PM   #42 
              - Autonomy for women IS a good thing.  musette_sf   Jul-14-11 02:29 PM   #43 
                 - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Jul-14-11 08:45 PM   #44 
                 - What if someday women didn't even feel they had to do it?  Pterodactyl   Jul-16-11 10:20 AM   #45 
                    - Not every woman wants to or can be pregnant and raise a child, or risk her life  Lars39   Jul-16-11 11:03 AM   #46 
                    - because the alternatives would be, um, what?  musette_sf   Jul-16-11 12:33 PM   #47 
                    - How about adoption by a responsible family?  Pterodactyl   Aug-31-11 09:07 PM   #62 
                       - if i don't want to be pregnant, no kind of adoption is acceptable  Scout   Sep-01-11 09:32 AM   #63 
                    - Had to do what? Bear a child if they didn't want to? Or feel they "had" to have an abortion?  uppityperson   Jul-16-11 09:55 PM   #49 
  - Is A Facelift For The Purpose of Looking Better Immoral?  zorahopkins   Jul-01-11 05:17 PM   #29 
  - no  jul61252   Jul-02-11 12:19 PM   #30 
  - how do you define immoral?  peace17   Jul-04-11 01:43 AM   #34 
  - So what do YOU think?  Pterodactyl   Jul-06-11 08:16 PM   #36 
  - I am 100% pro-choice but using abortion as a form of birth/population control is immoral  Starboard Tack   Jul-30-11 04:47 PM   #51 
  - I don't understand. You are pro-choice yet using abortion for birth control is immoral?  uppityperson   Jul-30-11 05:00 PM   #54 
     - Sorry, meant to say as a primary method of birth control.  Starboard Tack   Jul-30-11 05:48 PM   #55 
        - Thank you. Sounds like you view abortion as immoral but ok in some cases  uppityperson   Jul-30-11 05:58 PM   #56 
           - I would call it immoral if used for gender selection or population control  Starboard Tack   Jul-30-11 07:41 PM   #57 
  - no, it's not. wise in the long run, on a societal level? no. but no more immoral than any abortion.  Scout   Sep-01-11 09:36 AM   #64 
  - No, not immoral, but probably unwise  NOMOREDRUGWAR   Sep-02-11 04:14 PM   #65 
  - LIVE topic -- 163,000,000 Missing Women in Asia  vets74   Sep-08-11 09:58 AM   #66 
  - if I'm reading this correctly ...  iverglas   Sep-19-11 09:08 AM   #67 
     - In conjunction with that poster's other topic that words, terms, matter, it is oddd.  uppityperson   Sep-19-11 03:05 PM   #68 
  - Abortion is a medical procedure  tgal   Sep-19-11 03:09 PM   #69 
 

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