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Mon Jan-17-05 04:45 PM
Response to Reply #151 |
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"You don't need to beat yourself up for anything other than the quality of your ideas."
I shall assume, if I may be so bold, that you are not using the pronoun "you" in the generic sense.
If I am correct, your latest pronouncement is about as responsive to anything I've said as the responses I'd expect to get from my friend jabberwacky.com. That is: completely non-responsive.
I have not beaten myself up for anything at all. I most certainly would not do so, and have not done so, "for the quality of my ideas", I assure you. So once again, I am left clueless as to the substance of the message you may be attempting to convey ... and once again, not through any defect or disability on the receiving end of the process.
"I was assuming that you had a point of view to relate, not simply a point of a spear."
No assumption is called for or appropriate in this case, friend.
You have all the evidence you need regarding my point of view, and the fact that I have been relating it. Do allow me to pat you on the head for your attempt at witticism, though.
No points for you, however, for democratic discourse. You have done nothing but obfuscate and obstruct. I (and not just I, of course) have stated both views and the reasons for which I hold them, while you have not. And I have both asked questions to elicit the same information from you and answered the relevant questions you have asked, while you have not.
The lifeblood of democracy is the full and transparent disclosure of views and the bases for them (including the interests of the speaker in having those views generally adopted). Your continuing evasion of that democratic duty here confirms my assessment that you are no democrat.
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| -A Hypothetical Choice |
deignan |
Jan-13-05 06:56 AM |
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Choice up to 4-5 weeks? |
Feathered Fish |
Jan-13-05 07:10 AM |
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The crux of the issue |
deignan |
Jan-13-05 07:16 AM |
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you considered everything but anatomy |
Warpy |
Jan-16-05 05:19 PM |
#130 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Jan-16-05 05:27 PM |
#132 |
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Agree on questioning the time limit |
lukasahero |
Jan-13-05 07:37 AM |
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A good point |
deignan |
Jan-13-05 07:44 AM |
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The Democratic majority would extend this to 10-12 wks. eom |
ihaveaquestion |
Jan-13-05 08:41 AM |
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Undoubtedly |
deignan |
Jan-13-05 09:09 AM |
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I don't think you can "articulate a principled position" |
lukasahero |
Jan-13-05 10:12 AM |
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OK |
deignan |
Jan-13-05 10:21 AM |
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I originally voted A |
lukasahero |
Jan-13-05 12:53 PM |
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Not really a position |
deignan |
Jan-13-05 01:00 PM |
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A lot of women don't even know at 4-5 weeks |
grace0418 |
Jan-15-05 09:55 AM |
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is this a trick question? |
spooked911 |
Jan-13-05 08:23 AM |
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No Trick |
deignan |
Jan-13-05 08:28 AM |
#6 |
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B |
lwfern |
Jan-13-05 09:17 AM |
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Consider the possibilities -- no commitment here |
deignan |
Jan-13-05 09:41 AM |
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You're asking me to ignore the practical ramifications? |
lwfern |
Jan-13-05 09:54 AM |
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That's right |
deignan |
Jan-13-05 10:15 AM |
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It's not an exploration of POSSIBILITY |
lwfern |
Jan-13-05 10:21 AM |
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Trust me -- here's the point (we are on record) |
deignan |
Jan-13-05 10:32 AM |
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Well, I read that several times |
lwfern |
Jan-13-05 11:01 AM |
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Sure |
deignan |
Jan-13-05 11:36 AM |
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unfortunate analogy |
lwfern |
Jan-13-05 12:18 PM |
#24 |
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Analogy |
deignan |
Jan-13-05 12:29 PM |
#25 |
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my feeling is not consistent with my vote |
lwfern |
Jan-13-05 12:37 PM |
#26 |
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B=not A? |
deignan |
Jan-13-05 12:43 PM |
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join the club ;) |
iverglas |
Jan-13-05 12:57 PM |
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Actually, some of us do support abortion. |
OrwellwasRight |
Jan-17-05 12:55 PM |
#145 |
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alright, that's fair enough - good point |
lwfern |
Jan-17-05 07:11 PM |
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Likewise, I am not arguing against birth control. |
OrwellwasRight |
Jan-17-05 07:29 PM |
#162 |
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I agree - there are too many assumptions |
bloom |
Jan-13-05 02:26 PM |
#39 |
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Choice |
deignan |
Jan-13-05 04:54 PM |
#49 |
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another issue with this post |
lwfern |
Jan-13-05 01:43 PM |
#38 |
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Why not? |
deignan |
Jan-13-05 04:53 PM |
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My thoughts exactly... |
SarahBelle |
Jan-13-05 10:47 AM |
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Thank You |
deignan |
Jan-13-05 12:41 PM |
#28 |
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nonsense |
iverglas |
Jan-13-05 11:27 AM |
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Please vote |
deignan |
Jan-13-05 11:38 AM |
#21 |
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nope |
iverglas |
Jan-13-05 11:52 AM |
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Yes, Absolutely -- that is given as a certainty |
deignan |
Jan-13-05 12:06 PM |
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"In our continuing look at logical fallacies everywhere ..." |
iverglas |
Jan-13-05 12:40 PM |
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Okay. |
Jackie97 |
Jan-13-05 12:50 PM |
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Factored in the analysis |
deignan |
Jan-13-05 12:57 PM |
#36 |
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Logic and probabilities |
deignan |
Jan-13-05 12:52 PM |
#33 |
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I did vote... |
Jackie97 |
Jan-13-05 12:44 PM |
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That's OK |
deignan |
Jan-13-05 12:49 PM |
#31 |
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"liberals “feel” while conservatives “think" |
bloom |
Jan-13-05 02:35 PM |
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This puts it in context also |
lwfern |
Jan-13-05 02:54 PM |
#41 |
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Not a Kerry Fan |
deignan |
Jan-13-05 03:37 PM |
#42 |
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Are you a democrat? |
lwfern |
Jan-13-05 04:09 PM |
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Good Question |
deignan |
Jan-13-05 04:45 PM |
#46 |
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you'll fit in better here |
lwfern |
Jan-13-05 05:15 PM |
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Thanks |
deignan |
Jan-13-05 05:45 PM |
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It's a distribution |
deignan |
Jan-13-05 03:39 PM |
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and he's got it entirely ass backwards |
iverglas |
Jan-13-05 04:10 PM |
#45 |
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Data |
deignan |
Jan-13-05 04:46 PM |
#47 |
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and that's as may be |
iverglas |
Jan-13-05 05:30 PM |
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great point about accepting what people say without question |
lwfern |
Jan-13-05 05:43 PM |
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INTJ |
deignan |
Jan-13-05 06:11 PM |
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Neat Test |
deignan |
Jan-13-05 06:25 PM |
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What's So Tough? I'll Play This Stupid Game |
REP |
Jan-14-05 04:43 AM |
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Etc. |
deignan |
Jan-14-05 10:01 AM |
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Psychotic Breaks Better than Abortion? |
REP |
Jan-15-05 12:16 AM |
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Birth Control Effectiveness |
deignan |
Jan-15-05 03:21 PM |
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Couldn't possibly force rape victims |
DaedelusNemo |
Jan-14-05 07:05 AM |
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Rape Provision |
deignan |
Jan-14-05 09:50 AM |
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she has the option to earn $100/day |
lwfern |
Jan-14-05 09:55 AM |
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Important to some |
deignan |
Jan-14-05 10:05 AM |
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I obviously have not met these women |
lwfern |
Jan-14-05 10:10 AM |
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Big Picture of Poll Reminder |
deignan |
Jan-14-05 10:19 AM |
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hmmmm ... those women ... |
iverglas |
Jan-14-05 10:39 AM |
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Ha Ha |
deignan |
Jan-14-05 11:12 AM |
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The point |
iverglas |
Jan-14-05 11:29 AM |
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Is this your point? |
deignan |
Jan-14-05 11:44 AM |
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Newsflash |
lwfern |
Jan-14-05 12:01 PM |
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Being Human |
deignan |
Jan-14-05 12:07 PM |
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Compassionate Conservatism |
lwfern |
Jan-14-05 12:22 PM |
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Don't see your point |
deignan |
Jan-14-05 12:30 PM |
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yours is a funny one |
iverglas |
Jan-14-05 12:36 PM |
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Thanks |
deignan |
Jan-14-05 12:42 PM |
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My point is there's nothing compassionate or caring in you |
lwfern |
Jan-14-05 12:53 PM |
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Should? |
deignan |
Jan-14-05 01:04 PM |
#85 |
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The point |
Jackie97 |
Jan-17-05 08:42 PM |
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Personally |
lukasahero |
Jan-14-05 12:08 PM |
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Thanks |
deignan |
Jan-14-05 01:06 PM |
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aren't you out of breath yet? |
iverglas |
Jan-14-05 12:26 PM |
#74 |
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Complexity and the Status Quo |
deignan |
Jan-14-05 12:55 PM |
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laughable |
iverglas |
Jan-14-05 01:11 PM |
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Here is your point -- it is a good one |
deignan |
Jan-14-05 01:53 PM |
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"relieving the practicality of the situation" |
lwfern |
Jan-14-05 12:00 PM |
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The Question |
deignan |
Jan-14-05 12:24 PM |
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"That was my question" |
iverglas |
Jan-14-05 12:32 PM |
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Thanks |
deignan |
Jan-14-05 12:43 PM |
#81 |
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not an answer |
iverglas |
Jan-14-05 01:01 PM |
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Answer |
deignan |
Jan-14-05 01:10 PM |
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Do you have any idea how condescending you sound? |
lukasahero |
Jan-14-05 12:35 PM |
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Feasibility |
deignan |
Jan-14-05 12:40 PM |
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bilking the client |
lwfern |
Jan-14-05 01:04 PM |
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Travel |
deignan |
Jan-14-05 01:12 PM |
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Nope |
iverglas |
Jan-14-05 01:16 PM |
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OK |
deignan |
Jan-14-05 01:18 PM |
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no, it's not like that at all. |
lwfern |
Jan-14-05 01:25 PM |
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The Genius of Your Post |
deignan |
Jan-14-05 01:38 PM |
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you just keep saying it ... |
iverglas |
Jan-14-05 01:55 PM |
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Feasibility |
deignan |
Jan-14-05 02:04 PM |
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good lord |
iverglas |
Jan-14-05 02:22 PM |
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Feasibility Errata |
deignan |
Jan-14-05 02:41 PM |
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I give up |
iverglas |
Jan-14-05 05:14 PM |
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Study |
deignan |
Jan-14-05 05:40 PM |
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I'm still waiting, you know |
iverglas |
Jan-17-05 02:57 PM |
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Jan-17-05 05:46 PM |
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time for dinner |
iverglas |
Jan-17-05 06:20 PM |
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ewww |
liontamer |
Jan-14-05 04:24 PM |
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yep, we won't have rights, but we'll win the election! Yay! |
lwfern |
Jan-14-05 04:39 PM |
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Poll |
deignan |
Jan-14-05 05:15 PM |
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don't take it as a compliment |
lwfern |
Jan-14-05 05:30 PM |
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Of Course |
deignan |
Jan-14-05 05:50 PM |
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"of course"? |
lwfern |
Jan-14-05 06:05 PM |
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excellent point |
iverglas |
Jan-14-05 06:14 PM |
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Values Speculation |
deignan |
Jan-14-05 06:20 PM |
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I will answer that as a teacher |
lwfern |
Jan-14-05 06:36 PM |
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Just your opinion |
deignan |
Jan-14-05 06:38 PM |
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That was someone else. |
lwfern |
Jan-14-05 06:40 PM |
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Right you are |
deignan |
Jan-14-05 06:48 PM |
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indeed it was |
iverglas |
Jan-16-05 04:46 PM |
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Jan-16-05 06:04 PM |
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"OK"? |
iverglas |
Jan-16-05 06:29 PM |
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Jan-16-05 08:57 PM |
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gee, did I say "patronizing"? |
iverglas |
Jan-17-05 10:18 AM |
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whatever you do, don't tell him... |
NorthernSpy |
Jan-17-05 10:48 AM |
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Jan-17-05 12:30 PM |
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judging involves abbreviated perception |
NorthernSpy |
Jan-17-05 05:10 PM |
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Jan-17-05 05:59 PM |
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action is implicit in the Judging temperament |
NorthernSpy |
Jan-17-05 06:36 PM |
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Jan-17-05 11:58 AM |
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yikes! |
NorthernSpy |
Jan-17-05 12:05 PM |
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Jan-17-05 12:12 PM |
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oh dearie me |
iverglas |
Jan-17-05 01:13 PM |
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Jan-17-05 03:21 PM |
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odd indeed |
iverglas |
Jan-17-05 03:35 PM |
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Jan-17-05 04:05 PM |
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aren't you finished yet? |
iverglas |
Jan-17-05 04:45 PM |
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Jan-17-05 05:40 PM |
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I assume computer users are male also |
lwfern |
Jan-17-05 04:18 PM |
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almost right |
iverglas |
Jan-17-05 04:57 PM |
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Of course not publishable |
deignan |
Jan-14-05 06:18 PM |
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If you publish this |
lwfern |
Jan-14-05 06:28 PM |
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Great |
deignan |
Jan-14-05 06:41 PM |
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I don't think it would help you if I took the test |
lwfern |
Jan-14-05 06:48 PM |
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Affiliation |
deignan |
Jan-14-05 06:54 PM |
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I think I can answer that |
lwfern |
Jan-14-05 07:10 PM |
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I'm still a liberal |
WildClarySage |
Jan-15-05 04:05 PM |
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that's what I was getting at earlier |
iverglas |
Jan-16-05 05:22 PM |
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are these mutually exclusive? |
yurbud |
Jan-15-05 04:05 PM |
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Yes |
deignan |
Jan-15-05 04:12 PM |
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I misread the question |
yurbud |
Jan-15-05 06:14 PM |
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Forced Choice |
Catbird |
Jan-15-05 04:22 PM |
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Status Quo = Not A |
deignan |
Jan-15-05 04:31 PM |
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Questions for you. |
SarahBelle |
Jan-16-05 08:27 PM |
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Jan-16-05 09:22 PM |
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Given the republican party's tendency to take a mile when offered an inch |
WildClarySage |
Jan-17-05 12:40 PM |
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I have read all the posts and I am not sure what your principles are |
OrwellwasRight |
Jan-17-05 01:46 PM |
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Even with all of that,*HE* |
Heddi |
Jan-18-05 01:52 PM |
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Who Decides "Medical Necessity"? |
iamjoy |
Mar-01-05 08:52 PM |
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Here Is Another One... |
iamjoy |
Mar-01-05 08:53 PM |
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