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Wed Apr-25-07 06:23 PM
Response to Reply #2 |
| 4. Don't all pregnancies "damage a woman's health"? |
| -What am I missing? |
Ind4now |
Apr-25-07 07:05 AM |
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Missing? |
dancingAlone |
Apr-25-07 07:50 AM |
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Well thanks for the thought provoking response. |
Ind4now |
Apr-25-07 07:08 PM |
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You're not that dim really, are you? |
iverglas |
Apr-25-07 07:38 PM |
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It Is Too Restrictive |
stirlingsliver |
Apr-25-07 09:06 AM |
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Don't all pregnancies "damage a woman's health"? |
joshcryer |
Apr-25-07 06:23 PM |
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hey, you get it! |
iverglas |
Apr-25-07 07:36 PM |
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So you pretty much reject viablity from Roe v. Wade...? |
joshcryer |
Apr-25-07 08:42 PM |
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yuppers |
iverglas |
Apr-26-07 09:31 AM |
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There are lots of things in society that "are unhealthy" yet we have to deal with. |
joshcryer |
Apr-26-07 11:19 AM |
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well, blah blah blah |
iverglas |
Apr-26-07 11:25 AM |
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Smog is unhealthy... UV radiation is unhealthy... microwave radiation is unhealthy... |
joshcryer |
Apr-26-07 11:34 AM |
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ooooo |
iverglas |
Apr-26-07 01:35 PM |
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Heheh... |
joshcryer |
Apr-26-07 03:18 PM |
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my head spins ... |
iverglas |
Apr-26-07 03:44 PM |
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And so it continues... |
joshcryer |
Apr-26-07 04:15 PM |
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And therein lies the myth of 'partial birth abortion' |
Midlodemocrat |
Apr-28-07 07:06 PM |
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As far as I understand iverglas is arguing for 'choice' up until 'birth.' |
joshcryer |
Apr-28-07 08:13 PM |
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You are entitled to your opinion. Like everyone else. |
Midlodemocrat |
Apr-28-07 08:22 PM |
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I have found that the NCAP makes no claims about health. |
joshcryer |
Apr-28-07 08:33 PM |
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You get back to us after your next abortion, 'k? |
bliss_eternal |
Apr-29-07 03:09 AM |
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Wish I could nominate this post |
JetCityLiberal |
Apr-30-07 03:34 PM |
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Thank you for the NCAP info. I see nothing about D&E on healthy etc as you claim |
uppityperson |
Apr-29-07 03:11 PM |
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It's not on the NCAP website, the lobbying group made mention of it... |
joshcryer |
Apr-30-07 04:26 PM |
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So you base this statement..."will perform D&E on healthy mothers and fetuses with a completely norm |
uppityperson |
Apr-30-07 04:54 PM |
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That was the NCAP position 10 years ago. |
joshcryer |
Apr-30-07 05:08 PM |
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You are basing what NCAP says now on what Fitzsimmons said 10 yrs ago. |
uppityperson |
Apr-30-07 05:22 PM |
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I've been looking. I cannot find anything. |
joshcryer |
Apr-30-07 05:33 PM |
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Have you checked with NCAP themselves? Their website talks about early abortions. |
uppityperson |
Apr-30-07 05:38 PM |
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I don't think their organization supports it 'persay.' |
joshcryer |
Apr-30-07 05:41 PM |
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What NCAP affiliates "advertize it at that late of stage"? |
uppityperson |
Apr-30-07 05:47 PM |
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"the health of the pregnancy at that stage"????? |
iverglas |
Apr-30-07 05:56 PM |
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cheeses, do you pay no attention at all? |
iverglas |
Apr-30-07 04:55 PM |
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You're distorting it! He EXPLICTLY states when the procedure is performed! |
joshcryer |
Apr-30-07 05:24 PM |
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(American Journal of Medicine.) What? |
uppityperson |
Apr-30-07 05:28 PM |
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iverglas dissmissively linked me to a thread... |
joshcryer |
Apr-30-07 05:40 PM |
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I've seen viability dates, know those, the insertion of (AJM) was confusing. |
uppityperson |
Apr-30-07 05:49 PM |
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and fuck off a little farther |
iverglas |
Apr-30-07 05:53 PM |
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The JAMA calls it late term, Guttmacher calls it late term abortion. |
joshcryer |
Apr-30-07 07:03 PM |
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BS. G link doesn't define "late term" timeline,here's 1 that does(24wks)JAMA links are restricted. |
uppityperson |
Apr-30-07 10:07 PM |
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The point is that it's hotly disputed in the scientific community. |
joshcryer |
Apr-30-07 11:26 PM |
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Point is there is a big difference between 20 and 24 weeks. |
uppityperson |
Apr-30-07 11:30 PM |
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20 weeks is my personal feeling because of the JAMA article. |
joshcryer |
May-01-07 12:12 AM |
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Did you know you can register for the JAMA archives I linked? |
joshcryer |
May-01-07 12:27 AM |
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What's the matter...? |
bliss_eternal |
May-01-07 01:38 AM |
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Maybe so... |
joshcryer |
May-01-07 01:40 AM |
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Uh huh.... |
bliss_eternal |
May-01-07 01:58 AM |
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If you follow the discussion I think you will find it is on topic and appropriate. |
joshcryer |
May-01-07 02:00 AM |
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Someone... |
bliss_eternal |
May-01-07 02:09 AM |
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if only that were the truth |
iverglas |
May-01-07 08:16 AM |
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I'm tired of arguging 'terms' with you. Register with the JAMA and figure it out for yourself. |
joshcryer |
May-01-07 06:09 PM |
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fuck off |
iverglas |
Apr-30-07 05:50 PM |
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iverglas, I posted a link to the NYT article in an above post. |
joshcryer |
Apr-30-07 06:57 PM |
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so you're accusing me of lying again? |
iverglas |
May-01-07 08:06 AM |
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These rambles make almost no sense at all... |
joshcryer |
May-01-07 06:13 PM |
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plainly, you don't |
iverglas |
Apr-29-07 03:06 PM |
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Since when was I for the legislation? |
joshcryer |
Apr-30-07 04:34 PM |
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Quote you? |
iverglas |
Apr-30-07 04:57 PM |
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You said: |
joshcryer |
Apr-30-07 05:27 PM |
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Clearly, you are playing games. |
bliss_eternal |
May-01-07 01:40 AM |
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But I never said I didn't support it. Doesn't that prove it is you who are playing games? |
joshcryer |
May-01-07 02:02 AM |
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Your double talk seems to only confuse you. |
bliss_eternal |
May-01-07 02:22 AM |
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Also doesn't allow any provision for the mental health of the woman. |
Bunny |
Apr-25-07 12:13 PM |
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You're missing... |
bliss_eternal |
Apr-26-07 02:55 AM |
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Good God! |
Ind4now |
Apr-27-07 01:43 PM |
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Is that so...? |
bliss_eternal |
Apr-27-07 02:14 PM |
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When people hear "health" they tend to think something drastic. |
joshcryer |
Apr-27-07 08:32 PM |
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You are not one of us |
dancingAlone |
Apr-27-07 02:33 PM |
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Well said, dancingAlone.... |
bliss_eternal |
Apr-27-07 05:36 PM |
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Yes, "we" do sound like fools and idiots, don't we? |
dancingAlone |
Apr-28-07 01:44 AM |
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dancingAlone...! |
bliss_eternal |
Apr-28-07 01:46 AM |
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Kinda, actually. |
joshcryer |
Apr-28-07 03:23 PM |
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Oooooh, poor baby. |
bliss_eternal |
Apr-29-07 03:13 AM |
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As if anyone cares what someone on a forum thinks you think of them. |
joshcryer |
Apr-27-07 08:34 PM |
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Given... |
bliss_eternal |
Apr-27-07 11:10 PM |
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perhaps he finds it "amusing but not productive" ... n/t |
Scout |
Apr-28-07 10:43 AM |
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Ok, let me try, but I'm only going to say this once - I'll go slow |
lukasahero |
Apr-27-07 03:48 PM |
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If it's any consolation, I learned a few things on this thread. Thanks! n/t |
Kingshakabobo |
Apr-28-07 08:05 PM |
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Oh brother |
JetCityLiberal |
Apr-30-07 03:31 PM |
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"health" doesn't mean "health" it is code for "on demand" nt |
cgrindley |
Apr-30-07 05:52 PM |
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how sweet |
iverglas |
Apr-30-07 05:59 PM |
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There is no provision of health? Just for demand? |
uppityperson |
Apr-30-07 06:02 PM |
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Calling ones self "Pro Choice" while spewing right wing talking points |
JetCityLiberal |
Apr-30-07 06:44 PM |
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Stuff your right wing talking points crap |
cgrindley |
Apr-30-07 07:35 PM |
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Indeed, that's what the distortions attempt to do. |
joshcryer |
Apr-30-07 07:36 PM |
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post #68. |
uppityperson |
Apr-30-07 10:08 PM |
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Not a distortion. |
joshcryer |
Apr-30-07 11:31 PM |
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I counter with 24 weeks. |
uppityperson |
Apr-30-07 11:34 PM |
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I did, I said that there are varying POVs about the terminology. |
joshcryer |
May-01-07 12:02 AM |
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20 wks:24 wks. Infanticide:Abortion. "22 wks unheard of" Speaking of intellectually dishonest. |
uppityperson |
May-01-07 12:28 AM |
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*shakes his head* |
joshcryer |
May-01-07 01:51 AM |
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You're so funny... |
bliss_eternal |
May-01-07 01:43 AM |
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If you didn't care what I thought you wouldn't make such an effort. |
joshcryer |
May-01-07 01:53 AM |
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Clearly... |
bliss_eternal |
May-01-07 02:20 AM |
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Because it only allows for an imminent life endangering situation... |
colinmom71 |
Apr-30-07 11:31 PM |
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What are you missing? |
Kerrytravelers |
May-02-07 03:49 PM |
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Thanks for the great news, KT...! |
bliss_eternal |
May-02-07 11:02 PM |
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Yes, it was great news. |
Kerrytravelers |
May-02-07 11:49 PM |
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