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29. Several reasons
First of all, as a woman, I want control over my own body. While some pregnancies are simply accidents, I still want to be able to change the situation, if I choose. If I am raped, and I become pregnant, I don't think I would able to stand carrying the rapist's baby.
I remember when I was in ninth grade, and my political science teacher was a total fundie (oh, the irony!). He went on and on about how great Bush was, etc. Anyway, he was blabbing about how he disapproved of abortion, when he suddenly said, "If my daugher"--a picture of whom he kept on his desk--"was raped, I wouldn't want her to be carrying that sicko's baby. Well," he finished weakly. He had nothing left to say. It was almost funny, but mostly sad. I wondered what his daughter would think if she knew he mentioned her in this way.

Second of all, I don't think the government should--or can, rightfully--put limitations on the choices one makes regarding their body (unless, of course, those choices somehow harm someone else, which abortion wouldn't).

And lastly, even if abortion is illegal, women desperate to become "un-pregnant" would take desperate measures that might result in their death. Stories in which a woman cannot get access to a safe abortion, and submits herself to a procedure performed by someone who is not a medical professional, and dies or is seriously injured, are some of the saddest I've ever heard.
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  -Just wondering: why are you pro-choice? NoodleBoy  Nov-15-04 04:03 AM   #0 
  - Pro-choice is about choices for women  Dover   Nov-15-04 04:11 AM   #1 
  - I am pro-choice: why?  TaleWgnDg   Dec-03-04 03:00 AM   #51 
  - I'm not pro-abortion but I'm pro-choice.  eleonora   Nov-15-04 04:11 AM   #2 
  - Well the argument is being twisted so that if you ARE pro-choice  Dover   Nov-15-04 04:14 AM   #4 
  - yes, and that's just not right  eleonora   Nov-15-04 04:20 AM   #6 
     - Here's an analogy  TomClash   Nov-15-04 05:32 AM   #13 
     - PRO-gun  Cupcake1728   Jan-12-09 03:36 PM   #142 
     - Anarchist  TruthNik   Jan-16-09 10:38 PM   #162 
        - "That "thing" happens to grow into a child."??  uppityperson   Jan-18-09 12:43 PM   #164 
           - Still Welcome?  TruthNik   Jan-18-09 07:25 PM   #168 
              - You can and did ask a question.  uppityperson   Jan-18-09 07:35 PM   #169 
                 - Puppy Dog or Whale?  TruthNik   Jan-18-09 08:04 PM   #173 
                    - That question makes no sense.  uppityperson   Jan-18-09 08:13 PM   #175 
                    - I know you are TS'd, but wanted to answer anyway. Hydatidiform mole. Info & picture (warning)  uppityperson   Apr-18-09 07:03 PM   #207 
                    - My two cents  krazykikikat   Aug-04-10 08:29 PM   #312 
                       - "In a perfect world,  musette_sf   Aug-05-10 06:22 PM   #318 
                       - You mean all those women who got pregnant on purpose then decided to have abortion couldn't?  uppityperson   Aug-05-10 08:28 PM   #319 
                          - You nailed it uppityperson  Jax   Aug-06-10 01:30 PM   #322 
     - I am pro choice and pro gun because it's the same agruement  BlueInMass   Mar-23-10 12:51 PM   #303 
        - "I am pro choice and pro gun because it's the same agruement"  Scout   Mar-23-10 02:10 PM   #304 
           - How is that fail?  krazykikikat   Aug-05-10 10:48 AM   #314 
              - i shouldn't have to explain it.....  Scout   Aug-05-10 12:32 PM   #317 
                 - It's dead.  uppityperson   Aug-05-10 08:29 PM   #320 
     - I agree  renaissanceguy   Nov-21-04 02:44 PM   #37 
     - last resort  sweetbutterfly   Jan-22-05 09:59 AM   #86 
        - Simple reason for that  lwfern   Jan-22-05 11:11 AM   #87 
        - the "cheap route"  kaylynwright   Jul-27-09 01:37 PM   #289 
        - welcome to DU  uppityperson   Jul-27-09 02:27 PM   #291 
        - "t's more expensive and more traumatic physically on a woman's body than preventing an unwanted preg  uppityperson   Jul-27-09 02:27 PM   #290 
        - you got me there, Sweetbutterfly.  Undercover Owl   Jan-23-05 08:32 PM   #89 
           - like minded  sweetbutterfly   Jan-24-05 12:36 AM   #90 
              - and there's a question on the table  iverglas   Jan-24-05 07:29 AM   #93 
              - still waiting ...  iverglas   Jan-25-05 05:30 PM   #96 
                 - oh well  iverglas   Feb-02-05 02:11 PM   #110 
                    - pizza party!  Undercover Owl   Feb-02-05 08:48 PM   #111 
                       - This is a reply to an ironic post. eom  uppityperson   Apr-18-09 07:04 PM   #208 
                          - wow.  Iris   Apr-29-09 08:55 AM   #211 
  - Your response is the most interesting one so far.  Mackenzie   Nov-20-04 01:05 PM   #36 
  - You're in the majority  Liberty Belle   Nov-22-04 11:32 PM   #40 
  - I think the number of abortions per year probably correlates strongly with the economy  caseymoz   Mar-16-09 08:29 PM   #197 
     - How about the other, yet similar issue. In times of poor economy,  uppityperson   Mar-17-09 02:58 AM   #199 
  - I'm with eleonora on this issue  c4550   Dec-07-04 01:19 AM   #55 
  - Good points  Yehonala   Oct-04-09 06:32 PM   #294 
  - I am pro-choice because I want women to have the choice  thedailyshow   Nov-15-04 04:13 AM   #3 
  - Because I'm not a woman.  billyoc   Nov-15-04 04:15 AM   #5 
  - Yeah, I'm guessing men wouldn't want the gov. telling them what they  Dover   Nov-15-04 04:23 AM   #8 
  - if men could get pregnant abortion would be a sacrement  libodem   Feb-07-05 06:35 PM   #117 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-12-09 03:55 PM   #151 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-12-09 03:51 PM   #149 
     - what are you doing here?  Scout   Jan-13-09 11:24 AM   #153 
  - Mostly because Everyone has the right to choose  Neoma   Nov-15-04 04:23 AM   #7 
  - They are not pro-life, they are pro-birth  RubyDuby in GA   Jan-26-05 10:03 AM   #98 
     - Not everyone who is anti-abortion  Cupcake1728   Jan-12-09 03:47 PM   #148 
  - I believe that a woman has the right  GoBlue   Nov-15-04 04:31 AM   #9 
  - Because what I do with MY body is MY business...  LynnTheDem   Nov-15-04 04:43 AM   #10 
  - Because I am conservative on the issue.  Leilani   Nov-15-04 04:54 AM   #11 
  - good posting. and interesting point  Cooper   Jan-15-05 09:39 PM   #80 
     - Agreed  krazykikikat   Aug-05-10 11:02 AM   #315 
  - I am up to a point.  izzie   Nov-15-04 04:55 AM   #12 
  - I'm pro-choice because....  sherilocks   Nov-15-04 05:45 AM   #14 
  - I know people who were raped  ayeshahaqqiqa   Nov-15-04 05:57 AM   #15 
  - +1  Safya   Jun-08-10 08:50 PM   #307 
  - if you believe that a woman's body is absolutely her own  xchrom   Nov-15-04 06:35 AM   #16 
  - Almost without thought I have always been pro-choice  choicevoice   Nov-15-04 10:15 AM   #17 
  - Thanks for posting that and so sorry you had to deal with the  nothingshocksmeanymore   Feb-24-05 10:37 PM   #127 
  - Because being anti-choice means being anti-woman.  janesez   Nov-15-04 11:40 AM   #18 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-12-09 03:38 PM   #143 
  - :applause:  uncommon   Jul-14-10 03:37 PM   #309 
  - I'm pro-choice  Dookus   Nov-15-04 04:09 PM   #19 
  - I beleive a woman is a person  Djinn   Nov-15-04 04:48 PM   #20 
  - Proud to be radically pro-choice and agree with you 100%...  animuscitizen   Nov-23-04 01:51 PM   #44 
  - Unless people are willing to force women to give birth  Djinn   Nov-25-04 09:50 PM   #48 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-12-09 03:39 PM   #144 
     - a fetus is NOT a person, and has no rights.  Scout   Jan-13-09 11:26 AM   #154 
        - Didnt you know....  Dufaeth   May-18-09 10:34 PM   #216 
           - god has no uterus n/t  Scout   May-19-09 10:02 AM   #217 
  - Because it's important for people to have a choice.  Nestea   Nov-15-04 06:33 PM   #21 
  - Choice is always good, and my mom told me about pre-Roe days  slackmaster   Nov-15-04 06:44 PM   #22 
  - I was won by rationality...  Jackie97   Nov-15-04 10:05 PM   #23 
  - Your message gives us hope  Liberty Belle   Nov-22-04 11:41 PM   #41 
  - Because a woman is more than her uterus. n/t  Scout   Nov-16-04 09:35 AM   #24 
  - I am pro-choice because...  Hell Hath No Fury   Nov-16-04 11:41 AM   #25 
  - Because I'm a woman  Chovexani   Nov-16-04 04:58 PM   #26 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-12-09 03:56 PM   #152 
  - Absolute Control?  TruthNik   Jan-16-09 10:50 PM   #163 
     - At what point does "the child's" rights outweigh the woman's rights?  uppityperson   Jan-18-09 12:47 PM   #165 
     - Let's look at the "extreme"  TruthNik   Jan-18-09 07:57 PM   #172 
     - Let's look at another couple examples  uppityperson   Jan-18-09 08:12 PM   #174 
        - Let's unpack them one at a time  TruthNik   Jan-18-09 08:56 PM   #176 
           - I am glad you are gone.  uppityperson   Jan-19-09 02:13 AM   #177 
              - I read it.  Iris   Mar-11-09 02:40 PM   #193 
     - How many abortion cases are actually from rape?  TheVelvetDonkey   Apr-28-09 11:16 PM   #209 
        - blah, blah, blah, yadda yadda  Scout   Apr-29-09 08:24 AM   #210 
        - if the necessary precautions fail, then a child is forced on a woman  Iris   May-03-09 01:52 PM   #215 
     - My thought is you are a troll and won't be on DU long.  uppityperson   Jan-18-09 01:10 PM   #167 
  - Because  WildClarySage   Nov-16-04 05:55 PM   #27 
  - these are all good  csm   Nov-16-04 06:32 PM   #28 
  - Several reasons  seaj11   Nov-16-04 08:03 PM   #29 
  - Because it is my body not the government's.  recovering democrat   Nov-16-04 10:37 PM   #30 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-12-09 03:53 PM   #150 
  - Intellectually, I've always been pro-choice.  Kber   Nov-17-04 09:19 AM   #31 
  - I'm pro-choice  legally blonde   Nov-17-04 09:19 PM   #32 
  - Because I was born in 1961 and I knew and know women who  RUDUing2   Nov-18-04 03:14 PM   #33 
  - Pragmatism. Simply that.  Dark   Nov-19-04 01:33 AM   #34 
  - individual rights and social policy  inmania   Nov-19-04 10:22 PM   #35 
  - I had always been pro-choice ... and then ..  Maat   Nov-21-04 10:22 PM   #38 
  - A friend nearly died  Liberty Belle   Nov-22-04 11:26 PM   #39 
  - I'm pro-choice because .....  patomime   Nov-23-04 12:03 AM   #42 
  - Why I am pro-choice:  Dulcinea   Nov-23-04 01:07 PM   #43 
  - Why I am pro-choice:  KitSileya   Nov-25-04 09:15 AM   #45 
  - I am pro-choice because...  sariku   Nov-25-04 11:30 AM   #46 
  - I'm pro-choice because....  illflem   Nov-25-04 08:58 PM   #47 
  - Why I'm pro-choice...  election_2004   Nov-29-04 10:54 PM   #49 
  - I dont believe a wad of gue is a human being  Done   Nov-30-04 10:56 AM   #50 
  - I am pro choice  SemperEadem   Dec-03-04 09:42 PM   #52 
  - I'm not.  LWolf   Dec-06-04 09:06 AM   #53 
  - I am pro-choice...  Raiden   Dec-06-04 09:06 PM   #54 
  - Well said...  backtoblue   Apr-06-09 02:55 PM   #200 
  - Because if I don't own my body then how can I ever be free?  Solly Mack   Dec-07-04 05:47 AM   #56 
  - Its not your body.  PrezLeefun87   Jan-31-05 07:46 PM   #99 
     - You can also say the same things about parasites  Ms Chicklet   Feb-01-05 07:10 AM   #104 
     - But it lives  xmas74   Feb-05-05 12:03 AM   #112 
     - A fetus requires the use of another body to exist. Right?  ehrnst   Mar-16-05 07:22 AM   #135 
        - Yes, but...  Novjunulo   Jan-12-09 03:21 PM   #141 
  - because  rebecca_herman   Dec-15-04 08:49 PM   #57 
  - I am pro-choice  renaissanceguy   Dec-17-04 02:20 AM   #58 
  - I am pro-choice because  China_cat   Dec-20-04 06:18 PM   #59 
  - Several reasons...  Darranar   Dec-29-04 08:20 PM   #60 
  - Nice to see you again.  Jackie97   Dec-29-04 08:46 PM   #61 
     - It's nice to see you, too!  Darranar   Dec-29-04 09:08 PM   #62 
  - I'm pro life because I'm a Christian  genieroze   Dec-30-04 07:46 PM   #63 
  - What another woman does with her body  fortyfeetunder   Jan-01-05 01:58 AM   #64 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-12-09 03:44 PM   #146 
     - too funny!  Scout   Jan-13-09 11:28 AM   #155 
        - How do you get your fist in there?  MountainLaurel   Jan-13-09 11:46 AM   #158 
  - Rights  Kipepeo   Jan-02-05 08:47 PM   #65 
  - Necessary evil  ccbombs   Jan-03-05 06:35 PM   #66 
  - Question  AmericanLiberal   Jan-25-05 10:02 AM   #95 
  - The infant can exist apart from the woman, The fetus can't.  ehrnst   Mar-16-05 07:29 AM   #136 
  - wake up dude!  PrezLeefun87   Jan-31-05 08:21 PM   #102 
     - Get your dictionary out dude!  ehrnst   Mar-16-05 07:15 AM   #133 
        - heh  iverglas   Mar-16-05 08:12 AM   #138 
           - you crack me up  Iris   Mar-11-09 02:36 PM   #192 
  - I believe in life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness  liontamer   Jan-04-05 05:36 PM   #67 
  - I am pro-choice because...  IndyOp   Jan-05-05 07:43 PM   #68 
  - In simplest terms, I decide what sacrifices I make  lwfern   Jan-09-05 03:22 PM   #69 
  - I am pro-choice because there are options available  ac8916   Jan-11-05 12:33 AM   #70 
  - I am pro-choice because  grace0418   Jan-12-05 12:18 AM   #71 
  - I'm pro-choice because I'm a civil libertarian. There must be...  eallen   Jan-12-05 08:41 AM   #72 
  - innocent question...  BPD2258   Jan-14-05 04:59 PM   #73 
  - but there was a question on the table  iverglas   Jan-14-05 05:19 PM   #74 
  - They become rare when  ohkay   Jan-14-05 05:48 PM   #75 
  - Barry Goldwater on abortion:  nightperson   Jan-15-05 10:52 AM   #76 
  - And as men support women in their pregnancy prevention efforts.  WildClarySage   Jan-15-05 04:07 PM   #79 
  - Yes  SarahBelle   Jan-22-05 09:09 AM   #85 
  - Go back and read post 40  lwfern   Jan-15-05 11:13 AM   #77 
  - How we're trying to make abortions rare.  Jackie97   Jan-15-05 01:28 PM   #78 
  - Who Said It Was "Our" Stand?  REP   Jan-24-05 07:04 AM   #92 
  - Legislating the rarity of abortions  Ms Chicklet   Feb-01-05 09:03 AM   #107 
  - Unfortunately...  ianna_kur   Feb-07-05 06:06 PM   #116 
  - IMHO its wrong  NCN007   Jan-18-05 08:44 PM   #81 
  - I feel the same way...  BPD2258   Jan-19-05 11:11 AM   #82 
     - He "admitted"?  lwfern   Jan-19-05 11:24 AM   #83 
     - "admitted"?  iverglas   Jan-19-05 11:35 AM   #84 
     - Why?  Jackie97   Jan-22-05 05:22 PM   #88 
     - I like your style Jackie97!  Iris   Apr-17-09 10:48 PM   #203 
     - Kerry?  zcbta   Jan-24-05 06:31 AM   #91 
        - exactly what I was thinking.  Iris   Apr-17-09 10:54 PM   #206 
  - Because having a child is one of the most important things in a person's l  AmericanLiberal   Jan-25-05 03:50 AM   #94 
  - add up to forced childbirth?  Iris   Apr-17-09 10:49 PM   #204 
  - Does this mean my life is empty because I never had children??  kestrel91316   Jun-12-09 10:24 PM   #224 
  - pregnancy sucks unless you REALLY want a baby.  Undercover Owl   Jan-26-05 12:40 AM   #97 
  - That does not mean you kill the baby.  PrezLeefun87   Jan-31-05 07:49 PM   #100 
  - Pragmatism.  Jackie97   Jan-31-05 10:39 PM   #103 
  - you're absolutely right!  iverglas   Feb-01-05 09:31 AM   #108 
  - refusing to carry a fetus is not "selfish"  Undercover Owl   Feb-01-05 08:43 PM   #109 
  - and doesn't end with the birth.  Iris   Apr-17-09 10:53 PM   #205 
  - But we should allow  xmas74   Feb-05-05 12:06 AM   #113 
  - Why don't you become a surrogate mom? It won't kill you.  ehrnst   Mar-16-05 07:11 AM   #131 
  - Are you saying that fetuses can exist apart from the woman?  ehrnst   Mar-16-05 07:33 AM   #137 
  - Oh, fuck you. I practiced responsible sex by being on the pill  kestrel91316   Jun-12-09 10:27 PM   #225 
  - My pregnancy sucked even though it was really, really wanted.  Crunchy Frog   Nov-01-10 10:32 PM   #326 
  - Thats just not good enough to take away human life  PrezLeefun87   Jan-31-05 08:10 PM   #101 
  - No, that's not good enough to take away my right to control my own  WildClarySage   Feb-01-05 07:37 AM   #106 
  - Not meant to be born  HockeyMom   Feb-10-05 03:50 PM   #119 
  - No reason is good enough to force childbirth on someone.  ehrnst   Mar-16-05 07:13 AM   #132 
  - Life requires that a woman consent to carry and give birth.  ehrnst   Mar-16-05 07:18 AM   #134 
  - Why I'm pro-choice  Ms Chicklet   Feb-01-05 07:27 AM   #105 
  - Personal Question  TruthNik   Jan-16-09 10:19 PM   #161 
     - "Christ is waiting for you. I pray you find him soon." WTF?  uppityperson   Jan-18-09 12:53 PM   #166 
        - I'm wondering  MountainLaurel   Jan-18-09 07:45 PM   #170 
           - Those are interesting thoughts.  uppityperson   Jan-18-09 07:50 PM   #171 
           - It got TS'd. Good.  uppityperson   Jan-19-09 02:15 AM   #178 
  - For the reasons listed in the following article:  kalibex   Feb-06-05 10:42 AM   #114 
  - I am female  ianna_kur   Feb-07-05 05:54 PM   #115 
  - B/c religion has no place in governmental law  BioDorkBeth   Feb-10-05 09:07 AM   #118 
  - Because I'm a Realist  Crisco   Feb-13-05 09:27 AM   #120 
  - Not Pro Choice  misconstrusion   Feb-17-05 04:11 PM   #121 
     - Words, phrases and positions.  SlackJawedYokel   Feb-20-05 10:07 AM   #123 
     - Are pro-choice.  Jackie97   Feb-20-05 07:21 PM   #125 
  - Because I am human!  oddmanout   Feb-18-05 03:15 PM   #122 
  - Choice is a Conservative American value...  born2reason   Feb-20-05 02:24 PM   #124 
  - Conservatives don't directly talk about overturning R v W.  Jackie97   Feb-20-05 09:08 PM   #126 
  - My take is exactly your take...  DuaneBidoux   Mar-02-05 08:56 PM   #128 
  - i'm against forced reproduction.  bettyellen   Mar-08-05 11:07 PM   #129 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-12-09 03:47 PM   #147 
     - run along to some forced birther forum, would you?  Scout   Jan-13-09 11:29 AM   #156 
  - Pro-choice because childbirth is a sacred responsibility  ehrnst   Mar-15-05 02:37 PM   #130 
  - I am not sure if you would consider me pro-choice.  Spinoza   Mar-18-05 06:26 PM   #139 
  - Actually, you could have written Roe v Wade  ehrnst   Mar-22-05 11:12 AM   #140 
  - Murder?  zorahopkins   Jan-13-09 03:35 PM   #160 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-12-09 03:42 PM   #145 
  - "you cannot choose to kill your child"  Scout   Jan-13-09 11:31 AM   #157 
     - Just fyi, cupcake has the building  Book Lover   Jan-13-09 01:49 PM   #159 
     - So if I have no say-so  rd_kent   Feb-06-09 05:18 PM   #181 
        - take it up with the courts then and eliminate the child support laws  Scout   Feb-06-09 07:44 PM   #182 
        - I dont even know how to respond to that  rd_kent   Feb-07-09 04:40 PM   #184 
        - "That statement alone removes responsibility from the man." wtf?  uppityperson   Feb-06-09 11:41 PM   #183 
           - You missed my point  rd_kent   Feb-07-09 04:43 PM   #185 
              - I back tracked to Scout's post that you replied to and see what you meant.  uppityperson   Feb-08-09 01:24 AM   #186 
  - I'm pro-choice for the following reasons.  Jkid   Jan-22-09 05:59 PM   #179 
  - Because there is no good reason not to be.  Donald Ian Rankin   Feb-02-09 01:05 PM   #180 
  - How about because it kills another human being?  Jiradog   Mar-08-09 09:37 AM   #187 
     - right wing bullshit  Scout   Mar-08-09 02:55 PM   #188 
     - So you are saying that abortion does not kill a human being  Jiradog   Mar-08-09 08:36 PM   #189 
        - if, as you say, abortion kills a human being....  Scout   Mar-09-09 12:17 PM   #190 
        - damn. Why did someone have to call for pizza. I would really like to hear the answer to this.  Iris   Mar-11-09 02:42 PM   #194 
        - Many women who get an abortion do not understand they are getting one?  uppityperson   Mar-13-09 08:03 PM   #195 
           - He probably was trying not to "demonize the enemy"  Iris   Mar-16-09 12:53 PM   #196 
           - I think he probably meant that they don't understand the moral implications  krazykikikat   Aug-05-10 11:12 AM   #316 
              - Women getting abortions "don't understand the moral implications"?  uppityperson   Aug-05-10 08:32 PM   #321 
     - and I didn't get a chance to ask my question  iverglas   Apr-06-09 08:57 PM   #201 
  - Economic equality  Iris   Mar-10-09 06:30 PM   #191 
  - Many reasons (long-- but I hope informative.)  caseymoz   Mar-16-09 09:08 PM   #198 
  - a question  iverglas   Apr-06-09 09:10 PM   #202 
  - was before, not now  beach_house   May-01-09 02:07 PM   #212 
  - you regret driving somone to an abortion clinic but you fail to inform us  Iris   May-01-09 02:41 PM   #213 
  - blah, blah, blah .... same old spew from the mouth of someone who will never  Scout   May-02-09 04:25 PM   #214 
  - Hard thing to answer.  caseymoz   Jun-02-09 02:10 AM   #218 
  - because it is one of the fundamental legal basis to women's equality in other areas.  cap   Jun-02-09 12:43 PM   #219 
  - Several reasons - First, I am generally pro-choice about everything  slackmaster   Jun-08-09 08:59 AM   #220 
  - Because to be ANTI-choice is to favor the reproductive enslavement of women.  kestrel91316   Jun-09-09 11:04 PM   #221 
  - Because it's MY BODY and MY CHOICE.  waiting for hope   Jun-12-09 09:40 PM   #222 
  - When I was in college, I found someone who had died of a botched, illegal abortion.  Hepburn   Jun-12-09 09:45 PM   #223 
  - I am pro-choice for women AND men  Azalea   Jul-11-09 03:48 PM   #226 
  - so a man should be able to force a woman to have an abortion?  Iris   Jul-14-09 01:38 PM   #227 
     - Search is an interesting function on DU.  uppityperson   Jul-14-09 02:42 PM   #228 
     - er...yeah. I guess so.  Iris   Jul-14-09 02:50 PM   #229 
     - No  Azalea   Jul-14-09 04:44 PM   #230 
        - child support is not required in hopes to making someone want to be a parent.  Iris   Jul-14-09 08:28 PM   #231 
           - But  Azalea   Jul-15-09 01:02 AM   #232 
              - Sometimes that 2 minutes of enjoyment is very costly.  uppityperson   Jul-15-09 02:01 AM   #233 
              - No  Azalea   Jul-15-09 12:04 PM   #235 
                 - it's quite the hobby horse you're riding here  iverglas   Jul-15-09 05:52 PM   #259 
              - So, once again, you are still supporting the that a man can force a woman to have an abortion  Iris   Jul-15-09 08:16 AM   #234 
              - What?  Azalea   Jul-15-09 12:09 PM   #236 
                 - yes, I'm an ogre b/c I believe every chidl deserves child support.  Iris   Jul-15-09 01:07 PM   #238 
                    - Well look @ that...  Azalea   Jul-15-09 01:13 PM   #239 
                       - I would not be humiliated to ask for child support.  Iris   Jul-15-09 01:15 PM   #240 
                       - "how humilitaing asking for child support is "? Good grief  uppityperson   Jul-15-09 02:43 PM   #243 
              - look, just get a fucking clue: if a man is going to worry about his sperm, he should be more  Scout   Jul-15-09 12:51 PM   #237 
                 - Yeah  Azalea   Jul-15-09 01:20 PM   #241 
                    - nope, now you are making shit up  Scout   Jul-15-09 01:33 PM   #242 
                    - Reminds me of a mind-game someone tried on my way back  uppityperson   Jul-15-09 02:48 PM   #245 
                    - Dependent  Azalea   Jul-15-09 03:03 PM   #248 
                       - you are not making sense again.  uppityperson   Jul-15-09 03:08 PM   #251 
                       - Ah, I get it  iverglas   Jul-15-09 06:02 PM   #260 
                          - "Like I was dependent on other people's money to pay for the public schools I attended" unlike  uppityperson   Jul-15-09 06:09 PM   #261 
                             - gasp  iverglas   Jul-15-09 06:26 PM   #262 
                             - Your best shot  Azalea   Jul-15-09 08:30 PM   #270 
                                - You never took a logic class either, did you?  uppityperson   Jul-15-09 08:32 PM   #271 
                    - WRONG  Azalea   Jul-15-09 02:56 PM   #246 
                       - Making more shit up  uppityperson   Jul-15-09 03:05 PM   #249 
                       - You are begging  Azalea   Jul-15-09 08:24 PM   #266 
                          - Getting a legal divorce = begging. Oh. Kay.  uppityperson   Jul-15-09 08:28 PM   #269 
                       - "And how exectly are two lesbians raising a family laughable?"  Scout   Jul-15-09 05:08 PM   #253 
                          - Did you see where there seems confusion between support and visitation?  uppityperson   Jul-15-09 05:17 PM   #256 
                          - LOL @ moral child support for unwanted children  Azalea   Jul-15-09 08:26 PM   #267 
                             - You didn't read the post you are replying to, or else are picking out individual words.  uppityperson   Jul-15-09 08:34 PM   #272 
                                - it isn't just the comparison  iverglas   Jul-15-09 09:41 PM   #273 
                                - No again.  Azalea   Jul-16-09 11:29 AM   #279 
                                   - Copycat. TS'd and a copycat  uppityperson   Jul-16-09 05:50 PM   #285 
                    - "Most single fathers raise their children without ever asking a DIME of the biological mother or the  uppityperson   Jul-15-09 02:47 PM   #244 
                       - Yup  Azalea   Jul-15-09 03:01 PM   #247 
                          - "every woman is capable" of financially supporting herself and her children.  uppityperson   Jul-15-09 03:07 PM   #250 
                          - *sigh*  Azalea   Jul-15-09 04:25 PM   #252 
                             - The law disagrees with you. So do I. Child support is owed a child you make.  uppityperson   Jul-15-09 05:13 PM   #255 
                             - You are obviously  Azalea   Jul-15-09 08:14 PM   #263 
                                - Only if you conceive via parthenogenesis  uppityperson   Jul-15-09 08:26 PM   #268 
                                - and you are very carefully avoiding the point  iverglas   Jul-15-09 09:51 PM   #274 
                                   - ????  Azalea   Jul-16-09 11:26 AM   #278 
                                      - So you have no interest at all in civil discourse?  iverglas   Jul-16-09 02:19 PM   #282 
                                         - Civil  Azalea   Jul-16-09 02:42 PM   #283 
                                            - That was me and you obviously have never heard of  uppityperson   Jul-16-09 05:57 PM   #287 
                             - WE aren't the ones who are messed up....  Scout   Jul-15-09 05:19 PM   #258 
                                - NOwhere  Azalea   Jul-15-09 08:15 PM   #264 
                                   - when a child is given up for adoption, the parents terminate their rights  Scout   Jul-16-09 06:36 AM   #275 
                                      - Indeed.  uppityperson   Jul-16-09 10:46 AM   #276 
                                      - and you  Azalea   Jul-16-09 11:22 AM   #277 
                                         - "and you are a waste of abortion rights"  Scout   Jul-16-09 01:35 PM   #280 
                                            - yup  Azalea   Jul-16-09 02:06 PM   #281 
                                               - so this is your cowardly way of trying to say my mother should have aborted me?  Scout   Jul-16-09 03:13 PM   #284 
                                               - What a truly nasty thing to write. I am glad you got TS'd over this.  uppityperson   Jul-16-09 05:52 PM   #286 
                          - "I take care of my children with my husband because we JOINTLY decided to be parents"  Scout   Jul-15-09 05:13 PM   #254 
                             - Steal those men's "unwitting" sperm.  uppityperson   Jul-15-09 05:18 PM   #257 
                             - You still dont get it  Azalea   Jul-15-09 08:20 PM   #265 
  - Because it's up to the female  jcarterhero   Jul-17-09 12:59 AM   #288 
  - I am pro choice now because..  Healthyreformgal08   Sep-28-09 04:24 PM   #292 
  - because it's right  ki83760   Oct-02-09 10:50 PM   #293 
  - Im prochoice because it's the American way  Piwi2009   Oct-06-09 08:03 PM   #295 
  - I am proudly Pro-Choice . . .  h9socialist   Nov-09-09 12:42 PM   #296 
  - Because women are at risk of infection if they are forced to abort in an alley  Teramis   Nov-10-09 06:06 PM   #297 
  - Because women should have control over their bodies. As a man, I don't have  beyurslf   Dec-07-09 11:30 AM   #298 
  - I don't care.  uranutan   Feb-06-10 11:00 PM   #299 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-10-10 11:24 PM   #300 
  - Thank you mods. eom  uppityperson   Mar-11-10 04:47 PM   #301 
  - yes, thank you very much moderators :hi: n/t  Scout   Mar-11-10 05:30 PM   #302 
  - Pre Roe v. Wade...I found someone who had bled to death from an illegal abortion.  Hepburn   Mar-24-10 06:58 PM   #305 
  - Because women are free and they can do whatever they want  Safya   Jun-08-10 08:48 PM   #306 
  - Because I believe in the full personal bodily sovereignty of women. Because women are human.  uncommon   Jul-14-10 03:35 PM   #308 
  - A few reasons.  Deep13   Jul-19-10 01:13 PM   #310 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Jul-22-10 03:33 PM   #311 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-05-10 09:52 AM   #313 
  - I am pro-choice because I am pro-civil liberties, pro-woman and pro-science.  PanoramaIsland   Aug-13-10 01:27 AM   #323 
  - Because I believe in freedom  tortoise1956   Oct-03-10 10:38 PM   #324 
  - Privacy and a woman's right to control her own body.  Zoeisright   Oct-31-10 08:44 AM   #325 
  - Because torture is wrong regardless of gender.  athena   Nov-27-10 02:47 AM   #327 
  - I trust women to be the best judges of what is best for their bodies and their lives  slackmaster   Dec-13-10 03:16 PM   #328 
  - I'm against forced childbearing or forced abortion, and believe that both should be by consent.  ehrnst   Jan-03-11 02:57 PM   #329 
  - why?  pootbutta   Apr-22-11 03:13 PM   #330 
 

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