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emal2me Donating Member (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-30-06 09:05 PM
Response to Reply #66
68. Railroaded into Prison
Imagine youre on a jury and before you is a defendant up on serious charges. He could get a lengthy prison sentence. His mother, a known drug addict and alcoholic, has established that she never wanted him. She wanted an abortion but it was illegal. She wanted a morning after pill but it was illegal too. She didnt want to put him up for adoption either. Having been deigned her basic human right to reproductive choices she was left with no alternative but to raise him the best way she could. But his rearing was terrible as he was exposed to a life of neglect and abuse.

His attorney argues that society has forced life upon him. In effect he was born into a kind of forced servitude. The attorney further argues that society has no right to railroad this individual into prison just because he didnt turn out as society wished and that society has to accept responsibility for their actions and let him go.

My question is: Would you let him go? I would. Lawyers are passing this scenario around in their circles and its a good one because we cant force life on someone and later jerk the rug out from under them just because we didn't like the outcome.
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  - Right !!  Blutodog   Jan-03-06 11:42 AM   #45 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-31-05 06:12 PM   #15 
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  - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-28-05 11:08 AM   #34 
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  - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-28-05 10:57 AM   #40 
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     - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-29-05 07:53 AM   #43 
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  - I was talking to my cousin the other day  BlueStorm   Mar-14-06 07:27 PM   #64 
  - Well, yes, but it goes deeper than that, doesn't it.  quantessd   May-12-06 02:04 AM   #71 
  - A post-Roe world  dmesg   Apr-29-06 07:39 PM   #66 
  - Railroaded into Prison  emal2me   Apr-30-06 09:05 PM   #68 
  - Before Roe v. Wade  emal2me   May-13-06 10:21 PM   #72 
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