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wilt the stilt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-10 09:46 AM
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32. A couple of thoughts
My friend was invited to the NFL combine and was a split end. He said that the ball was caught and if you look at it I think he is technically down. His butt and knee hit the ground and the he was in possession of the ball.
The trouble with the call is it is not the spirit of the game. This was a call closer to a lawsuit. Most of the refs are "professional" people(lawyers and upper management). I doubt any of them played much sports and can anyone give me a reason why the NFL uses "professionals" as opposed to average joes who actually played sports.
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  -Detroit Lions get robbed. Bluzmann57  Sep-12-10 03:20 PM   #0 
  - There are many rules in college not the same as the NFL  LiberalFighter   Sep-12-10 03:25 PM   #1 
  - It's the same rule in all levels.  Renew Deal   Sep-12-10 06:49 PM   #19 
  - What about players who strut in and spike the ball?  1gobluedem   Sep-12-10 03:28 PM   #2 
  - They had complete control of the ball while entering the end zone.  LiberalFighter   Sep-12-10 03:29 PM   #3 
  - Calvin Johnson caught the ball and had two feet down  1gobluedem   Sep-12-10 03:31 PM   #4 
     - It would be if he had stayed on his feet and voluntarily dropped the ball.  LiberalFighter   Sep-12-10 04:08 PM   #6 
        - He had full control  1gobluedem   Sep-12-10 04:22 PM   #8 
           - I believe there was a ruling like that  Goblinmonger   Sep-12-10 06:25 PM   #10 
           - Mmmmm.....it was a catch  LisaM   Sep-13-10 01:30 PM   #47 
              - It was one fluid movement.  Goblinmonger   Sep-13-10 02:04 PM   #57 
           - The rule is "invoked" on every single pass thrown.  Renew Deal   Sep-12-10 06:44 PM   #15 
  - Example?  Renew Deal   Sep-12-10 06:37 PM   #13 
  - He didn't have possession pre-endzone.  Goblinmonger   Sep-12-10 06:41 PM   #14 
  - Yup...  one_voice   Sep-12-10 03:54 PM   #5 
  - Another Bad Call  RockaFowler   Sep-12-10 04:14 PM   #7 
  - They called it correctly according to the rule.  Goblinmonger   Sep-12-10 06:26 PM   #11 
     - It looks like it would have been a TD if the player tucked the ball.  Renew Deal   Sep-12-10 06:45 PM   #16 
     - Yep  Goblinmonger   Sep-12-10 06:46 PM   #17 
        - I wondered if he set it down too.  Renew Deal   Sep-12-10 06:47 PM   #18 
     - No, they didn't.  LisaM   Sep-13-10 01:00 PM   #37 
  - It was a good call..  Upton   Sep-12-10 06:24 PM   #9 
  - Agree---  trumad   Sep-13-10 06:50 AM   #28 
  - It was a good call.  Renew Deal   Sep-12-10 06:36 PM   #12 
  - Ten to one if it had been the Patriots, Colts, Saints, or Packers  1gobluedem   Sep-12-10 06:54 PM   #20 
  - I understand your frustration.  Goblinmonger   Sep-12-10 06:56 PM   #21 
  - Winning teams get the calls  1gobluedem   Sep-12-10 07:07 PM   #22 
  - I don't think you do understand the frustatration  LisaM   Sep-13-10 01:01 PM   #38 
     - When did I take a cheap shot at the Lions?  Goblinmonger   Sep-13-10 01:22 PM   #43 
  - +1  UrbScotty   Sep-13-10 03:09 PM   #82 
  - It may have been a good call, but the rule really sucks  Poiuyt   Sep-12-10 07:15 PM   #23 
  - I don't think the RB vs WR comparison is valid.  Goblinmonger   Sep-12-10 07:23 PM   #25 
     - And that's even more interesting.  trotsky   Sep-13-10 07:04 AM   #29 
     - Well I say he had possession when he caught the ball with two hands,  Poiuyt   Sep-13-10 01:40 PM   #48 
        - So you don't want refs held to a literal interpretation of the rules?  Goblinmonger   Sep-13-10 02:05 PM   #59 
           - Tecnically Bush never said saddam was Al Queida  wilt the stilt   Sep-13-10 02:40 PM   #76 
  - Just like the tuck rule, the right call but for a bad rule.  Forkboy   Sep-12-10 07:22 PM   #24 
  - It's actually a good rule.  Renew Deal   Sep-12-10 07:26 PM   #26 
     - I'm trying to be nice here!  Forkboy   Sep-12-10 07:36 PM   #27 
     - So......when the Notre Dame player dropped the ball before he got to the endzone  LisaM   Sep-13-10 01:12 PM   #39 
        - I saw that too  JonLP24   Sep-13-10 01:17 PM   #42 
           - Just saying......  LisaM   Sep-13-10 01:25 PM   #44 
  - Same exact thing as the Tuck Rule.  Iggo   Sep-13-10 07:47 AM   #30 
  - But the tuck rule is a poor comparison.  Goblinmonger   Sep-13-10 08:06 AM   #31 
     - After further review, I agree.  Iggo   Sep-13-10 10:14 AM   #33 
  - A couple of thoughts  wilt the stilt   Sep-13-10 09:46 AM   #32 
     - But the rule doesn't say that  Goblinmonger   Sep-13-10 11:26 AM   #34 
     - did he catch it or not?  wilt the stilt   Sep-13-10 12:12 PM   #35 
        - I don't think you want refs making calls based on that.  Goblinmonger   Sep-13-10 12:44 PM   #36 
        - do you think he caught it?  wilt the stilt   Sep-13-10 01:13 PM   #40 
           - No.  Goblinmonger   Sep-13-10 01:16 PM   #41 
              - fair enough  wilt the stilt   Sep-13-10 01:27 PM   #45 
                 - The Bears' announcers (on the radio) thought it was a catch, also  LisaM   Sep-13-10 01:28 PM   #46 
                 - It's pretty evident it was a catch  wilt the stilt   Sep-13-10 01:41 PM   #49 
                 - Evident to everyone except the refs, the league, and the rulebook.  Renew Deal   Sep-13-10 02:01 PM   #54 
                 - By all means, let's go by what announcers say.  Goblinmonger   Sep-13-10 02:08 PM   #60 
                 - If you watched the end of the game..  Upton   Sep-13-10 02:17 PM   #66 
                 - Is your player friend a referee?  Renew Deal   Sep-13-10 01:59 PM   #53 
                 - he is a superior athlete  wilt the stilt   Sep-13-10 02:33 PM   #73 
                    - So he is not a referee  Renew Deal   Sep-13-10 02:49 PM   #79 
                    - actually he is very familiar  wilt the stilt   Sep-13-10 03:10 PM   #83 
                       - The ref closest to the play will get marked down for two things  Renew Deal   Sep-13-10 03:15 PM   #85 
                    - Well McNabb is a more accomplished player than your friend  Goblinmonger   Sep-13-10 03:13 PM   #84 
                 - I thought it was pretty clear I didn't think it was a catch. Sorry.  Goblinmonger   Sep-13-10 02:01 PM   #55 
        - No  Renew Deal   Sep-13-10 01:56 PM   #51 
     - The NFL does not use full time referees.  Renew Deal   Sep-13-10 01:56 PM   #50 
        - Can you honestly tell me, if it had been Dallas, or the Colts  LisaM   Sep-13-10 01:57 PM   #52 
        - Yes, completely honestly.  Renew Deal   Sep-13-10 02:02 PM   #56 
           - I've watched the replay a dozen times  LisaM   Sep-13-10 02:05 PM   #58 
           - Watch the catch-no catch video on this site.  Renew Deal   Sep-13-10 02:09 PM   #61 
           - Not the rules knowledge.....the fact that he maintained control  LisaM   Sep-13-10 02:17 PM   #65 
           - Here's where I think it went wrong.  Renew Deal   Sep-13-10 02:22 PM   #69 
           - I can't log into that either  LisaM   Sep-13-10 02:18 PM   #67 
              - Then you don't understand the rule.  Renew Deal   Sep-13-10 02:23 PM   #70 
           - Yeah, no way a ref would make a game ending call against the Cowboys  Goblinmonger   Sep-13-10 02:12 PM   #64 
           - PS, also, that video wouldn't load  LisaM   Sep-13-10 02:10 PM   #62 
              - I understand the emotion of the situation.  Renew Deal   Sep-13-10 02:20 PM   #68 
                 - When does the league ever disagree with the refs?  LisaM   Sep-13-10 02:31 PM   #72 
                    - They DID get it right..  Upton   Sep-13-10 02:38 PM   #74 
                    - We'll have to agree to disagree then  LisaM   Sep-13-10 02:41 PM   #77 
                    - All the time.  Renew Deal   Sep-13-10 03:00 PM   #80 
        - They tend not to be avearge joes  wilt the stilt   Sep-13-10 02:11 PM   #63 
           - They are not in poverty, but that's for one reason  Renew Deal   Sep-13-10 02:28 PM   #71 
              - everyone is tempted by bribes  wilt the stilt   Sep-13-10 02:38 PM   #75 
                 - You heard it in your own mind  Renew Deal   Sep-13-10 02:49 PM   #78 
                    - you didn't catch the sarcasm  wilt the stilt   Sep-13-10 03:06 PM   #81 
 

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