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Mon Oct-09-06 06:25 PM
Response to Reply #9 |
| 10. A few things to point out... |
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First, philosophy rarely has absolutes...that is what distinguishes it from religion.
Moral relativism is necessary in order to live in a pluralistic world. Certain ideals in Straussian philosophy border on elitism. Relativism is not part of the philosophy.
Absolutism is sometimes dangerous and always repressive.
Liberal philosophy is relativistic, Conservative is absolutist which explains its comfortability with religion.
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| -Liberally religious people & philosophical atheists - "Truth" |
bloom |
Oct-07-06 12:38 PM |
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Thanks. |
LouisianaLiberal |
Oct-07-06 01:07 PM |
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belief people v. knowledge people |
pat_k |
Oct-07-06 01:10 PM |
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Belief is speculative. |
charles22 |
Oct-07-06 01:20 PM |
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Nevertheless, some apparently reside there. . . |
pat_k |
Oct-07-06 01:35 PM |
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Oh sure. |
charles22 |
Oct-07-06 01:37 PM |
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"belief people" & "knowledge people" |
bloom |
Oct-07-06 03:35 PM |
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Truth always wins in the end... |
Finder |
Oct-07-06 04:19 PM |
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Wow that's an interesting read. |
lvx35 |
Oct-09-06 10:44 PM |
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Good post....and I agree basic truths need to be established... |
Finder |
Oct-07-06 01:18 PM |
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Pros and cons |
Nabeshin |
Oct-07-06 09:05 PM |
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A few things to point out... |
Finder |
Oct-09-06 06:25 PM |
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The atheists and spiritual left are far too lazy to ever move forward. |
lvx35 |
Oct-09-06 11:04 PM |
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Speak for yourself...n/t |
Finder |
Oct-10-06 08:22 AM |
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Speak for yourself. |
Random_Australian |
Oct-10-06 06:35 PM |
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Thank you for illustrating my point. |
lvx35 |
Oct-10-06 09:18 PM |
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Maybe. |
greyl |
Oct-10-06 09:35 PM |
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I accept that criticism. |
lvx35 |
Oct-10-06 09:39 PM |
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Hmmm. |
Random_Australian |
Oct-11-06 02:42 AM |
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We can have political consensus and ethical consensus |
Evoman |
Oct-09-06 11:26 PM |
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Maybe there's plenty of truth in religion, but not the kind you buy into. |
Ron_Green |
Oct-10-06 12:43 AM |
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There is NO TRUTH IN RELIGION, except by coincedence and |
Evoman |
Oct-10-06 05:58 PM |
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Illiterate camel herder gets lucky |
ironbark |
Oct-10-06 08:09 PM |
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You seem to be angry and rigid in your assertions. |
Ron_Green |
Oct-11-06 12:54 AM |
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I have very little anger....annoyance, perhaps, best |
Evoman |
Oct-11-06 01:15 AM |
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Thanks for allowing that my religious beliefs, if any, may not be worthy |
Ron_Green |
Oct-11-06 01:42 AM |
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Lol...I don't much get deism either. |
Evoman |
Oct-11-06 02:05 AM |
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That is not Deism, that is Pantheism. n/t |
Finder |
Oct-11-06 08:13 AM |
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The view that makes the most sense to me |
Ron_Green |
Oct-11-06 01:16 PM |
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Wow...where did you get all of THAT! |
Evoman |
Oct-11-06 02:08 PM |
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Love isn't special at all. |
Ron_Green |
Oct-11-06 03:37 PM |
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I am no doubt much younger than you |
Evoman |
Oct-11-06 05:05 PM |
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Thanks for dealing straight with me in this little exchange. |
Ron_Green |
Oct-11-06 05:40 PM |
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Re: "How do you know ANY of this stuff?" |
bloom |
Oct-11-06 10:35 PM |
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oops |
Evoman |
Oct-11-06 08:13 PM |
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Science is the search for fact, not truth |
IAmJacksSmirkingRevenge |
Oct-11-06 08:30 AM |
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No. |
Evoman |
Oct-11-06 11:40 AM |
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Who says everyone takes the story of Noah literally? |
IAmJacksSmirkingRevenge |
Oct-11-06 11:57 AM |
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I know you don't believe in Noah...don't strawman me. |
Evoman |
Oct-11-06 12:29 PM |
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.... |
Random_Australian |
Oct-10-06 06:26 PM |
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Maybe you're not one of the many. |
Ron_Green |
Oct-11-06 12:56 AM |
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I agree with you on the creationism/intelligent design issue. |
beam me up scottie |
Oct-10-06 11:59 PM |
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This is what I don't understand - how does rejection require acceptance? |
Ron_Green |
Oct-11-06 01:02 AM |
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To be able to reject something, I have to understand what it is. |
beam me up scottie |
Oct-11-06 01:08 AM |
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What do you mean? |
Evoman |
Oct-11-06 01:22 AM |
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Exactly. |
beam me up scottie |
Oct-11-06 01:39 AM |
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Its patronizing drivel, and its arrogant. |
Evoman |
Oct-11-06 01:54 AM |
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"because we're angry or disappointed" |
trotsky |
Oct-11-06 01:42 PM |
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Me, I'm ECSTATIC that I'm god-free! |
Zhade |
Oct-11-06 07:10 PM |
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There is another mechanism too. |
Random_Australian |
Oct-11-06 07:28 PM |
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Very good point, RA. |
Evoman |
Oct-11-06 11:40 PM |
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You nailed it...n/t |
Finder |
Oct-11-06 08:19 AM |
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Exactly. One cannot 'reject' what has never been proven to exist. |
Zhade |
Oct-11-06 07:08 PM |
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Why not both? |
Random_Australian |
Oct-10-06 06:25 PM |
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Both theories are self-evidently wrong. |
Donald Ian Rankin |
Oct-10-06 06:41 PM |
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"Universal truth is not measured in mass appeal." |
Zhade |
Oct-11-06 07:10 PM |
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"Truth... is something you discover" |
bloom |
Oct-11-06 10:52 PM |
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I think differences in what are considered legitimate sources of knowledge |
greyl |
Oct-12-06 12:19 AM |
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