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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 01:08 PM
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31. Well all that debating is a smokescreen for what's really going on
in the "war." It really is. It's a luxury to debate about the origins of life and the universe, and it's a lot of fun. But while we're all doing that, the creationists and ID types are actually about something else entirely. They're stealing seats on local school boards, while no one but fundamentalists are watching, with the aim of making an assault against secular public education. That's who the creationists were when the term was first born 20 or so years ago, and that's what they're still about.
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  -Public Service: Darwin's Answer to Behe Re: The Complexity of the Eye BurtWorm  Feb-02-05 04:34 PM   #0 
  - Another factor that I haven't heard pointed out  htuttle   Feb-02-05 04:43 PM   #1 
  - What's Darwin's answer  Stunster   Feb-02-05 05:48 PM   #2 
  - Natural selection and evolution do not address this question  Az   Feb-02-05 06:15 PM   #4 
  - No, Darwin doesn't answer the question  Dookus   Feb-03-05 09:52 PM   #38 
  - It is worth noting that anti-science folks...  trotsky   Feb-02-05 06:00 PM   #3 
  - Dishonesty is not a new tactic for anyone  Selwynn   Feb-03-05 10:09 AM   #12 
     - Some background  Az   Feb-03-05 10:32 AM   #13 
     - Is it a coincidence that that is how Republicans also operate?  BurtWorm   Feb-03-05 10:53 AM   #14 
     - I don't know how much of it is deliberate or accidental  Selwynn   Feb-03-05 11:56 AM   #18 
     - Creationists are the specific topic of this thread, Selwynn.  trotsky   Feb-03-05 10:57 AM   #15 
        - No problem. Expect plently more keen observations  Selwynn   Feb-03-05 11:45 AM   #16 
           - Just curious...  trotsky   Feb-03-05 11:54 AM   #17 
              - I'm not here to teach you to read.  Selwynn   Feb-03-05 11:58 AM   #19 
                 - Bothered?  trotsky   Feb-03-05 12:02 PM   #20 
                 - I edited to respond to your cheap argumentation tactic.  Selwynn   Feb-03-05 12:09 PM   #21 
                    - I think your personal dislike of me is clouding your judgment.  trotsky   Feb-03-05 12:16 PM   #23 
                       - Actually I feel the exact opposite.  Selwynn   Feb-03-05 12:43 PM   #26 
                          - The only assumption I make about you right now, Sel...  trotsky   Feb-03-05 01:04 PM   #30 
                             - Well.. perhaps you're right  Selwynn   Feb-03-05 02:52 PM   #32 
                 - Maybe we need to define the term "creationists."  BurtWorm   Feb-03-05 12:15 PM   #22 
                    - Excellent clarification, BW.  trotsky   Feb-03-05 12:17 PM   #24 
                    - The creationists and their ID cronies have very cleverly coopted  BurtWorm   Feb-03-05 12:27 PM   #25 
                    - Really? Is that like a widely accepted definition?  Selwynn   Feb-03-05 12:45 PM   #27 
                       - What do you understand "creationist" to mean?  BurtWorm   Feb-03-05 12:48 PM   #28 
                          - No, don't misunderstand me -  Selwynn   Feb-03-05 12:59 PM   #29 
                             - Well all that debating is a smokescreen for what's really going on  BurtWorm   Feb-03-05 01:08 PM   #31 
                                - Yeah - makes me feel a little chastized...  Selwynn   Feb-03-05 02:53 PM   #33 
                                   - I didn't mean to chastise you!  BurtWorm   Feb-03-05 02:55 PM   #34 
                                      - It was self regulatory chastizement ;)  Selwynn   Feb-03-05 03:13 PM   #35 
  - Cosmic natural selection  Stunster   Feb-02-05 10:09 PM   #5 
  - Is this the only note you know?  Az   Feb-02-05 10:18 PM   #6 
  - This is a religion and theology forum (n/t)  Stunster   Feb-02-05 10:21 PM   #7 
     - And this thread is about evolution  Az   Feb-02-05 10:36 PM   #8 
  - At some point you are going to have to rely on faith or patience  BurtWorm   Feb-03-05 09:49 AM   #11 
  - The basic argument regarding natural selection  Stunster   Feb-02-05 11:10 PM   #9 
     - Well said but still outside the focus of the issue  Az   Feb-02-05 11:19 PM   #10 
        - Definitions  Sgent   Feb-03-05 09:15 PM   #36 
           - Science does not necessitate atheism  Az   Feb-03-05 09:23 PM   #37 
              - Science does not require atheism.  Sgent   Feb-03-05 11:39 PM   #39 
                 - It requires that we sit up and take notice when the supernatural happens  Az   Feb-03-05 11:49 PM   #40 

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