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ozone_man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 04:24 PM
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22. I don't need an Earth mother myth either
though many relate to the Earth as a mother. I threw that out as an example of a myth that can exist side by side with living a sustainable life on Earth. When myths exist within a rational framework, they seem pretty harmless. One thing is clear, that we need nature, and we as a civilzation tends to think of ourselves as above nature. That is the most dangerous myth of all.

I totally agree about myths not being just religious in nature. But one thing that they have in common is that they tend to grow out of false premises or noncritical thinking. Our civilization needs a quick change toward critical thinking. But I think if we deal with religious and environmental myths, the rest falls into place. Teaching those seeking rewards in heaven that it is Earth where they should be seeking rewards, will get them to seek equity and social justice while they are alive, on Earth. Teaching sustainable living, science and ecology, treating the Earth and all life forms with respect, will tend to make people treat each other more respectfully, to consider the full costs of capitalism. It's all related. Myths like the one that humans have more rights than the rest of life on Earth are very destructive. This myth has it's origins in religion, which makes it even harder to dispel.

But today I hear that Pat Robertson believes that global warming is real, so it gives me some hope for human kind.
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  -Myth has outlived its utility cosmik debris  Aug-02-06 11:07 AM   #0 
  - Has any human society ever existed without myth?  Jim__   Aug-02-06 11:13 AM   #1 
  - That's a good point  Orrex   Aug-02-06 11:18 AM   #2 
  - To further my analogy  cosmik debris   Aug-02-06 11:29 AM   #5 
     - By teaching critical thinking  Orrex   Aug-02-06 11:38 AM   #6 
        - Wouldn't that eliminate myth  cosmik debris   Aug-02-06 11:47 AM   #9 
           - I don't think so, at least not automatically  Orrex   Aug-02-06 12:07 PM   #12 
  - I'm no history expert  cosmik debris   Aug-02-06 11:20 AM   #3 
  - Do you think that creation of myth is the dividing line between humans  greyl   Aug-03-06 12:42 AM   #16 
     - It is impossible to tell  cosmik debris   Aug-03-06 06:46 AM   #19 
  - Look at your definition of myth.  igil   Aug-02-06 11:29 AM   #4 
  - I declined to define  cosmik debris   Aug-02-06 11:41 AM   #7 
  - self delete.  valerief   Aug-02-06 11:42 AM   #8 
  - You need to read 'The Power of Myth'  China_cat   Aug-02-06 11:55 AM   #10 
  - I have read that  cosmik debris   Aug-02-06 12:02 PM   #11 
     - If you'd really read Campbell  China_cat   Aug-02-06 12:31 PM   #13 
        - I beg your pardon  cosmik debris   Aug-02-06 12:39 PM   #14 
           - No, but it would help if you understood Campbell  China_cat   Aug-02-06 01:11 PM   #15 
              - Have you read past page 5? ;) nt  greyl   Aug-03-06 12:49 AM   #17 
  - Most have, yes.  greyl   Aug-03-06 12:53 AM   #18 
  - I think myth has outlived it's usefulness.  ozone_man   Aug-03-06 10:57 AM   #20 
  - Please don't get the idea that I am only talking about religion  cosmik debris   Aug-03-06 11:46 AM   #21 
     - I don't need an Earth mother myth either  ozone_man   Aug-03-06 04:24 PM   #22 
     - Ah, ok. :)  greyl   Aug-04-06 03:49 AM   #26 
        - I like that.  cosmik debris   Aug-04-06 07:40 AM   #27 
  - Maybe You're Right  Southpawkicker   Aug-03-06 05:54 PM   #23 
  - Once again you missed the point  cosmik debris   Aug-03-06 06:46 PM   #24 
     - Oh, I Understand You Perfectly Cosmik  Southpawkicker   Aug-03-06 09:07 PM   #25 
  - Not all myths are religious in nature.  Odin2005   Aug-04-06 08:02 AM   #28 
  - I agree (see post 21)  cosmik debris   Aug-04-06 08:49 AM   #29 
     - Manifest Destiny is perhaps the worst of myths.  ozone_man   Aug-04-06 01:50 PM   #30 
        - Everyone has their favorite Rockefeller horror story  cosmik debris   Aug-04-06 02:49 PM   #31 
        - Well, Christianity also supported Manifest Destiny.  Zhade   Aug-04-06 09:28 PM   #32 
           - That's right.  ozone_man   Aug-04-06 11:05 PM   #33 
  - I haven't read Campbell,  neebob   Aug-06-06 09:27 AM   #34 
  - Devil's Advocate position  cosmik debris   Aug-06-06 11:01 AM   #35 
     - I don't see how more sensible societal goals  neebob   Aug-06-06 01:54 PM   #38 
        - 15 yard penalty for illegal substitution :)  cosmik debris   Aug-06-06 03:34 PM   #39 
           - Realities, goals, needs, values -  neebob   Aug-06-06 04:28 PM   #40 
              - sorry, I didn't mean to frustrate you.  cosmik debris   Aug-06-06 04:41 PM   #41 
                 - Thank you for that nice surprise.  neebob   Aug-07-06 08:50 AM   #43 
  - Rationalism might be a myth  kwassa   Aug-06-06 12:05 PM   #36 
     - I dont know how to take that.  cosmik debris   Aug-06-06 12:59 PM   #37 
     - If They Get Food  Southpawkicker   Aug-06-06 07:48 PM   #42 
        - Or even a wrong belief, if it does a good thing?  kwassa   Aug-07-06 09:01 AM   #44 
           - The difference is  cosmik debris   Aug-07-06 09:40 AM   #45 
           - I don't think that there is any relevant connection  kwassa   Aug-07-06 09:55 AM   #46 
              - The myth of nationalism  cosmik debris   Aug-07-06 10:32 AM   #47 
                 - Huh?  Southpawkicker   Aug-07-06 05:20 PM   #50 
                 - Nationalism isn't a myth  kwassa   Aug-08-06 10:37 AM   #51 
                    - It was not my idea  cosmik debris   Aug-08-06 11:05 AM   #52 
                    - I am disagreeing with you.  kwassa   Aug-08-06 07:50 PM   #54 
                    - Yes, Nationalism is a myth.  Odin2005   Aug-08-06 07:59 PM   #55 
           - A Very Good Point  Southpawkicker   Aug-07-06 05:17 PM   #49 
     - Rationalism  Orrex   Aug-07-06 11:52 AM   #48 
        - good point, rationalism is being viciously attacked by postmodernist...  Odin2005   Aug-08-06 07:48 PM   #53 

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