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20. I think myth has outlived it's usefulness.
Of course, what constitutes myth can have various definitions. I think in general, we need to teach critical thinking to survive past the next century. The threat of religious war and harm to the environment are two areas that critical thinking must keep us from the brink of disaster. We're still fighting wars based on the ancient mythology of Abrahamic religions. We need to get beyond this stage of civilization. Regarding the environment, we need to think critically about impacts like global warming, pollution, over population, sustainable living, before we've destroyed nature and reduced the quality of life to very low levels.

I do think that humans have "spiritual" needs, but these needs can be built on rational foundations. We can live in harmony with the world, with nature, while fulfilling a wholesome, "spiritual" lifestyle. But there is no room for religious delusions that offer heaven and afterlife to believers instead of dealing with the reality and a sustainable existence on Earth. This may not mean complete destruction of all myths, but at the very least, myths need to stand up to the light of reason. For example, I think deep ecology or some other environmental based philosophy/science/life style is compatible with myths that may consider the Earth as a life force at the global level. Without making a deity out of the Earth, we can still show reverance to the Earth, hold it as sacred, maybe even allow room for myths. Any myths though need to exist side by side with reason. We can't go back to the age of mythology, before the age of reason.
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  -Myth has outlived its utility cosmik debris  Aug-02-06 11:07 AM   #0 
  - Has any human society ever existed without myth?  Jim__   Aug-02-06 11:13 AM   #1 
  - That's a good point  Orrex   Aug-02-06 11:18 AM   #2 
  - To further my analogy  cosmik debris   Aug-02-06 11:29 AM   #5 
     - By teaching critical thinking  Orrex   Aug-02-06 11:38 AM   #6 
        - Wouldn't that eliminate myth  cosmik debris   Aug-02-06 11:47 AM   #9 
           - I don't think so, at least not automatically  Orrex   Aug-02-06 12:07 PM   #12 
  - I'm no history expert  cosmik debris   Aug-02-06 11:20 AM   #3 
  - Do you think that creation of myth is the dividing line between humans  greyl   Aug-03-06 12:42 AM   #16 
     - It is impossible to tell  cosmik debris   Aug-03-06 06:46 AM   #19 
  - Look at your definition of myth.  igil   Aug-02-06 11:29 AM   #4 
  - I declined to define  cosmik debris   Aug-02-06 11:41 AM   #7 
  - self delete.  valerief   Aug-02-06 11:42 AM   #8 
  - You need to read 'The Power of Myth'  China_cat   Aug-02-06 11:55 AM   #10 
  - I have read that  cosmik debris   Aug-02-06 12:02 PM   #11 
     - If you'd really read Campbell  China_cat   Aug-02-06 12:31 PM   #13 
        - I beg your pardon  cosmik debris   Aug-02-06 12:39 PM   #14 
           - No, but it would help if you understood Campbell  China_cat   Aug-02-06 01:11 PM   #15 
              - Have you read past page 5? ;) nt  greyl   Aug-03-06 12:49 AM   #17 
  - Most have, yes.  greyl   Aug-03-06 12:53 AM   #18 
  - I think myth has outlived it's usefulness.  ozone_man   Aug-03-06 10:57 AM   #20 
  - Please don't get the idea that I am only talking about religion  cosmik debris   Aug-03-06 11:46 AM   #21 
     - I don't need an Earth mother myth either  ozone_man   Aug-03-06 04:24 PM   #22 
     - Ah, ok. :)  greyl   Aug-04-06 03:49 AM   #26 
        - I like that.  cosmik debris   Aug-04-06 07:40 AM   #27 
  - Maybe You're Right  Southpawkicker   Aug-03-06 05:54 PM   #23 
  - Once again you missed the point  cosmik debris   Aug-03-06 06:46 PM   #24 
     - Oh, I Understand You Perfectly Cosmik  Southpawkicker   Aug-03-06 09:07 PM   #25 
  - Not all myths are religious in nature.  Odin2005   Aug-04-06 08:02 AM   #28 
  - I agree (see post 21)  cosmik debris   Aug-04-06 08:49 AM   #29 
     - Manifest Destiny is perhaps the worst of myths.  ozone_man   Aug-04-06 01:50 PM   #30 
        - Everyone has their favorite Rockefeller horror story  cosmik debris   Aug-04-06 02:49 PM   #31 
        - Well, Christianity also supported Manifest Destiny.  Zhade   Aug-04-06 09:28 PM   #32 
           - That's right.  ozone_man   Aug-04-06 11:05 PM   #33 
  - I haven't read Campbell,  neebob   Aug-06-06 09:27 AM   #34 
  - Devil's Advocate position  cosmik debris   Aug-06-06 11:01 AM   #35 
     - I don't see how more sensible societal goals  neebob   Aug-06-06 01:54 PM   #38 
        - 15 yard penalty for illegal substitution :)  cosmik debris   Aug-06-06 03:34 PM   #39 
           - Realities, goals, needs, values -  neebob   Aug-06-06 04:28 PM   #40 
              - sorry, I didn't mean to frustrate you.  cosmik debris   Aug-06-06 04:41 PM   #41 
                 - Thank you for that nice surprise.  neebob   Aug-07-06 08:50 AM   #43 
  - Rationalism might be a myth  kwassa   Aug-06-06 12:05 PM   #36 
     - I dont know how to take that.  cosmik debris   Aug-06-06 12:59 PM   #37 
     - If They Get Food  Southpawkicker   Aug-06-06 07:48 PM   #42 
        - Or even a wrong belief, if it does a good thing?  kwassa   Aug-07-06 09:01 AM   #44 
           - The difference is  cosmik debris   Aug-07-06 09:40 AM   #45 
           - I don't think that there is any relevant connection  kwassa   Aug-07-06 09:55 AM   #46 
              - The myth of nationalism  cosmik debris   Aug-07-06 10:32 AM   #47 
                 - Huh?  Southpawkicker   Aug-07-06 05:20 PM   #50 
                 - Nationalism isn't a myth  kwassa   Aug-08-06 10:37 AM   #51 
                    - It was not my idea  cosmik debris   Aug-08-06 11:05 AM   #52 
                    - I am disagreeing with you.  kwassa   Aug-08-06 07:50 PM   #54 
                    - Yes, Nationalism is a myth.  Odin2005   Aug-08-06 07:59 PM   #55 
           - A Very Good Point  Southpawkicker   Aug-07-06 05:17 PM   #49 
     - Rationalism  Orrex   Aug-07-06 11:52 AM   #48 
        - good point, rationalism is being viciously attacked by postmodernist...  Odin2005   Aug-08-06 07:48 PM   #53 

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