Orrex
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Wed Aug-02-06 11:18 AM
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But I'd go a step further and say that, while it may be a necessary means of binding society, its influence shouldn't be permitted to spread much beyond that. As soon as any nonverifiable, metaphysical doctrine is perceived as central to a society, those who are empowered to interpret, preach, or propogate that doctrine are automatically put in a position of unassailable power.
Popular mythology is often as much a means of excluding the outsiders as it is a means of binding members of the group. Lots of other social phenomena accomplish this same purpose, of course.
Additionally, as I've mentioned previously in this forum, myth--and specifically supernatural myth--is poisonous to reason and will always be a crowbar with which the believers can be beaten into some measure of submission.
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| -Myth has outlived its utility |
cosmik debris |
Aug-02-06 11:07 AM |
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Has any human society ever existed without myth? |
Jim__ |
Aug-02-06 11:13 AM |
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That's a good point |
Orrex |
Aug-02-06 11:18 AM |
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To further my analogy |
cosmik debris |
Aug-02-06 11:29 AM |
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By teaching critical thinking |
Orrex |
Aug-02-06 11:38 AM |
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Wouldn't that eliminate myth |
cosmik debris |
Aug-02-06 11:47 AM |
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I don't think so, at least not automatically |
Orrex |
Aug-02-06 12:07 PM |
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I'm no history expert |
cosmik debris |
Aug-02-06 11:20 AM |
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Do you think that creation of myth is the dividing line between humans |
greyl |
Aug-03-06 12:42 AM |
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It is impossible to tell |
cosmik debris |
Aug-03-06 06:46 AM |
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Look at your definition of myth. |
igil |
Aug-02-06 11:29 AM |
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I declined to define |
cosmik debris |
Aug-02-06 11:41 AM |
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self delete. |
valerief |
Aug-02-06 11:42 AM |
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You need to read 'The Power of Myth' |
China_cat |
Aug-02-06 11:55 AM |
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I have read that |
cosmik debris |
Aug-02-06 12:02 PM |
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If you'd really read Campbell |
China_cat |
Aug-02-06 12:31 PM |
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I beg your pardon |
cosmik debris |
Aug-02-06 12:39 PM |
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No, but it would help if you understood Campbell |
China_cat |
Aug-02-06 01:11 PM |
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Have you read past page 5? ;) nt |
greyl |
Aug-03-06 12:49 AM |
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Most have, yes. |
greyl |
Aug-03-06 12:53 AM |
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I think myth has outlived it's usefulness. |
ozone_man |
Aug-03-06 10:57 AM |
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Please don't get the idea that I am only talking about religion |
cosmik debris |
Aug-03-06 11:46 AM |
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I don't need an Earth mother myth either |
ozone_man |
Aug-03-06 04:24 PM |
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Ah, ok. :) |
greyl |
Aug-04-06 03:49 AM |
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I like that. |
cosmik debris |
Aug-04-06 07:40 AM |
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Maybe You're Right |
Southpawkicker |
Aug-03-06 05:54 PM |
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Once again you missed the point |
cosmik debris |
Aug-03-06 06:46 PM |
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Oh, I Understand You Perfectly Cosmik |
Southpawkicker |
Aug-03-06 09:07 PM |
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Not all myths are religious in nature. |
Odin2005 |
Aug-04-06 08:02 AM |
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I agree (see post 21) |
cosmik debris |
Aug-04-06 08:49 AM |
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Manifest Destiny is perhaps the worst of myths. |
ozone_man |
Aug-04-06 01:50 PM |
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Everyone has their favorite Rockefeller horror story |
cosmik debris |
Aug-04-06 02:49 PM |
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Well, Christianity also supported Manifest Destiny. |
Zhade |
Aug-04-06 09:28 PM |
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That's right. |
ozone_man |
Aug-04-06 11:05 PM |
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I haven't read Campbell, |
neebob |
Aug-06-06 09:27 AM |
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Devil's Advocate position |
cosmik debris |
Aug-06-06 11:01 AM |
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I don't see how more sensible societal goals |
neebob |
Aug-06-06 01:54 PM |
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15 yard penalty for illegal substitution :) |
cosmik debris |
Aug-06-06 03:34 PM |
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Realities, goals, needs, values - |
neebob |
Aug-06-06 04:28 PM |
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sorry, I didn't mean to frustrate you. |
cosmik debris |
Aug-06-06 04:41 PM |
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Thank you for that nice surprise. |
neebob |
Aug-07-06 08:50 AM |
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Rationalism might be a myth |
kwassa |
Aug-06-06 12:05 PM |
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I don’t know how to take that. |
cosmik debris |
Aug-06-06 12:59 PM |
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If They Get Food |
Southpawkicker |
Aug-06-06 07:48 PM |
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Or even a wrong belief, if it does a good thing? |
kwassa |
Aug-07-06 09:01 AM |
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The difference is |
cosmik debris |
Aug-07-06 09:40 AM |
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I don't think that there is any relevant connection |
kwassa |
Aug-07-06 09:55 AM |
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The myth of nationalism |
cosmik debris |
Aug-07-06 10:32 AM |
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Huh? |
Southpawkicker |
Aug-07-06 05:20 PM |
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Nationalism isn't a myth |
kwassa |
Aug-08-06 10:37 AM |
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It was not my idea |
cosmik debris |
Aug-08-06 11:05 AM |
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I am disagreeing with you. |
kwassa |
Aug-08-06 07:50 PM |
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Yes, Nationalism is a myth. |
Odin2005 |
Aug-08-06 07:59 PM |
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A Very Good Point |
Southpawkicker |
Aug-07-06 05:17 PM |
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Rationalism |
Orrex |
Aug-07-06 11:52 AM |
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good point, rationalism is being viciously attacked by postmodernist... |
Odin2005 |
Aug-08-06 07:48 PM |
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