TallahasseeGrannie
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Sat Jul-15-06 12:18 PM
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| 36. I don't think the religion is any more |
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violent than any other religion, but the adherents tend to be a bit crankier at the moment..reminiscent of Christians in the middle ages.
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| -Islam: what do you think? |
Rocknrule |
Jul-14-06 09:28 PM |
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RW propaganda (eom) |
Mandate My Ass |
Jul-14-06 09:30 PM |
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No, it's not inherently violent. |
Redstone |
Jul-14-06 09:31 PM |
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No, it's not, at all n/t |
manic expression |
Jul-21-06 09:24 AM |
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read the Old Testament |
ixion |
Jul-14-06 09:33 PM |
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Amen to that!! |
4bucksagallon |
Jul-14-06 09:37 PM |
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it has a violent history |
Bill McBlueState |
Jul-14-06 09:34 PM |
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well said! |
rainy |
Jul-14-06 09:40 PM |
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And a violent present |
Solo_in_MD |
Jul-14-06 09:45 PM |
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Inherent violence? |
stangoodwin |
Jul-15-06 01:54 AM |
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interesting that you mention cosmology |
Bill McBlueState |
Jul-15-06 10:44 AM |
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You may find this interesting |
ayeshahaqqiqa |
Jul-16-06 05:33 PM |
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I think all three of the Abraham religions |
mmonk |
Jul-14-06 09:34 PM |
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Guess which religions have women getting their father drunk to have sex |
undeterred |
Jul-14-06 09:35 PM |
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I find the 6th Sura to be a bit nasty... |
YOY |
Jul-14-06 09:37 PM |
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Thanks to you, |
ayeshahaqqiqa |
Jul-16-06 04:41 PM |
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RW propaganda |
Cocoa |
Jul-14-06 09:38 PM |
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It's RW propaganda |
Warpy |
Jul-14-06 09:40 PM |
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fanaticism of any kind is inherently dangerous |
anarch |
Jul-14-06 09:45 PM |
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Pir Shabda Khan |
ayeshahaqqiqa |
Jul-16-06 04:46 PM |
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bullcrap!!!....show me the 72 Virgins verse in the Qur'an... |
blitzen |
Jul-14-06 09:48 PM |
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Put the Quotes in Context |
Onus |
Jul-14-06 11:12 PM |
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Which "context" would you like? |
blitzen |
Jul-14-06 11:31 PM |
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I need to check out those two books |
Onus |
Jul-14-06 11:56 PM |
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classical Tafsir, for example al-Tabari, |
blitzen |
Jul-15-06 12:15 AM |
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Not Relying on "Interpretation" |
Onus |
Jul-15-06 12:40 PM |
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the question we were debating was 49.13, not 49.15 |
blitzen |
Jul-15-06 07:51 PM |
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A Sufi interpretation |
ayeshahaqqiqa |
Jul-16-06 05:06 PM |
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Yes, sounds like Ibn Arabi |
blitzen |
Jul-16-06 07:04 PM |
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I think I know what the problem is here |
ayeshahaqqiqa |
Jul-16-06 04:48 PM |
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Put THIS in context, Nazi! |
Zhade |
Jul-18-06 07:21 PM |
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Virgins Just Not "72" |
Onus |
Jul-14-06 11:25 PM |
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here's some "context" for you |
blitzen |
Jul-14-06 11:41 PM |
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I was agreeing with you |
Onus |
Jul-15-06 12:05 AM |
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okay, sorry, i thought you were supporting the OP's |
blitzen |
Jul-15-06 12:24 AM |
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Can you identify the hadith for me, please? |
ayeshahaqqiqa |
Jul-16-06 05:17 PM |
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From Abdullah Yusuf Ali |
ayeshahaqqiqa |
Jul-16-06 05:11 PM |
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Like your post/s blitzen….. |
stangoodwin |
Jul-15-06 02:50 AM |
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Great Debate |
Onus |
Jul-16-06 12:15 PM |
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Which translation are you using? |
ayeshahaqqiqa |
Jul-16-06 04:58 PM |
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If by inherently... |
varkam |
Jul-14-06 09:52 PM |
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I don't believe Islam is an inherently violent |
cliss |
Jul-14-06 10:13 PM |
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RW propaganda. The Bible, the Talmud, Torah AND the Quaran all... |
Poll_Blind |
Jul-14-06 10:22 PM |
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Hang on a second |
Donald Ian Rankin |
Jul-21-06 06:47 AM |
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Four and Six |
Onus |
Jul-14-06 10:34 PM |
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I heard an interesting quote on the BBC the other night. |
megatherium |
Jul-14-06 11:02 PM |
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Please cite your source |
ayeshahaqqiqa |
Jul-16-06 05:21 PM |
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Islam is not inherently violent |
BuffyTheFundieSlayer |
Jul-14-06 10:57 PM |
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the Koran gives you the virgins in Heaven... |
progdonkey |
Jul-14-06 10:57 PM |
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If by "virgin*s*" you mean 72 of them, |
BuffyTheFundieSlayer |
Jul-15-06 01:13 AM |
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um, was my point unclear? |
progdonkey |
Jul-15-06 11:33 AM |
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It appeared you were claiming the Koran stated "72 virgins" |
BuffyTheFundieSlayer |
Jul-15-06 09:43 PM |
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In a lot of ways, it is just like Christianity. |
catbert836 |
Jul-15-06 12:10 PM |
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The Crusades - Just like the "72 virgins" |
Onus |
Jul-15-06 01:02 PM |
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You can't be serious. |
catbert836 |
Jul-15-06 01:22 PM |
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He was a freeper. Now dead. |
Zhade |
Jul-18-06 07:22 PM |
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the Crusades, especially the early ones, were a "jobs" |
blitzen |
Jul-15-06 08:03 PM |
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Comparison |
Onus |
Jul-15-06 01:06 PM |
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On the contrary |
catbert836 |
Jul-15-06 01:28 PM |
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Fundamentalists are the problem in Christianity also |
BuffyTheFundieSlayer |
Jul-16-06 10:30 PM |
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Yes, he makes very good points in his book |
ayeshahaqqiqa |
Jul-16-06 05:24 PM |
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I don't think the religion is any more |
TallahasseeGrannie |
Jul-15-06 12:18 PM |
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You may think you only looked at moderate/progressive sources |
ayeshahaqqiqa |
Jul-16-06 04:29 PM |
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It's a fool's errand to compare the two religions, for there |
igil |
Jul-16-06 06:27 PM |
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I think its as whacky as everything else. |
Evoman |
Jul-18-06 08:53 PM |
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I think it's the most unpleasant of the major world religions. |
Donald Ian Rankin |
Jul-21-06 06:56 AM |
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Same as I think of all religions, Christianity included: not very highly. |
Zhade |
Jul-21-06 06:46 PM |
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About those "virgins"... |
PsychoDad |
Jul-25-06 01:13 PM |
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