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cosmik debris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 10:30 PM
Response to Reply #59
60. I don't understand
In my OP I stated that I am not making a value judgment and I cited an example of the proper legitimate use of a dual standard for proof. If you don't like the questions, you may reserve your answers.
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  -Dual standard for belief cosmik debris  Jun-04-06 08:16 AM   #0 
  - I think you are really talking about is standards of evidence  kwassa   Jun-04-06 08:20 AM   #1 
  - Thank you for your response  cosmik debris   Jun-04-06 08:35 AM   #2 
     - I'm sure it is different for every individual theist and non-theist  kwassa   Jun-04-06 08:52 AM   #3 
     - But how do you decide which evidence to accept  cosmik debris   Jun-04-06 08:55 AM   #4 
     - I agree that we all use different mixtures  muriel_volestrangler   Jun-04-06 09:13 AM   #5 
     - My guess is that  Totallybushed   Jun-04-06 09:44 AM   #6 
        - That is what matters to you  cosmik debris   Jun-04-06 09:57 AM   #7 
           - Again, I think it will  Totallybushed   Jun-04-06 05:22 PM   #44 
              - I failed to ask my question properly  cosmik debris   Jun-04-06 06:56 PM   #48 
                 - All right.  Totallybushed   Jun-05-06 09:04 PM   #93 
                    - Atheism is not faith-based.  Zhade   Jun-07-06 07:27 PM   #98 
  - People choose a belief system based on subject area  rock   Jun-04-06 09:59 AM   #8 
  - That makes sense  cosmik debris   Jun-04-06 10:03 AM   #9 
     - Well, since you ask, I'll ramble on a bit  rock   Jun-04-06 10:19 AM   #10 
        - Unfortunately I agree with you  cosmik debris   Jun-04-06 10:44 AM   #11 
           - I don't think it is alien...  Finder   Jun-04-06 01:06 PM   #14 
              - And I am one of those  cosmik debris   Jun-04-06 01:16 PM   #16 
                 - Actually, if you think about it, most were not offered a choice...  Finder   Jun-04-06 01:37 PM   #19 
  - This is a good question that has stirred...  Finder   Jun-04-06 01:01 PM   #12 
  - There is no rational decision-making process...  TreasonousBastard   Jun-04-06 01:06 PM   #13 
  - In my experience...atheists are more knowlegeable about religion..  Finder   Jun-04-06 01:13 PM   #15 
  - Some atheists, who have...  TreasonousBastard   Jun-04-06 01:29 PM   #18 
     - Perhaps agnostics but not atheists.  Finder   Jun-04-06 01:42 PM   #20 
     - I have met many.  kwassa   Jun-04-06 07:51 PM   #52 
     - There is a difference  cosmik debris   Jun-04-06 01:51 PM   #24 
        - One must understand religion in order to glean any evidence...  Finder   Jun-04-06 01:56 PM   #26 
           - Not so  cosmik debris   Jun-04-06 02:13 PM   #30 
           - Then I must misunderstand what you are saying...  Finder   Jun-04-06 02:47 PM   #31 
              - It was your analogy  cosmik debris   Jun-04-06 03:13 PM   #34 
                 - That is not the way the justice system works...if no crime, case dropped.  Finder   Jun-04-06 03:29 PM   #37 
                    - I don't buy that  cosmik debris   Jun-04-06 03:42 PM   #38 
                       - Ancient Greece...but, I doubt anyone believed in Zeus the way some...  Finder   Jun-04-06 04:05 PM   #42 
                          - If you are saying  cosmik debris   Jun-04-06 04:18 PM   #43 
                             - Pagan/Pantheistic and Monotheistic theology...  Finder   Jun-04-06 05:50 PM   #46 
           - How does one "understand religion" exactly?  Orrex   Jun-04-06 03:02 PM   #32 
              - Sounds like you understand since...  Finder   Jun-04-06 03:09 PM   #33 
  - no rational decision-making process?  cosmik debris   Jun-04-06 01:27 PM   #17 
  - Socrates. n/t  Finder   Jun-04-06 01:45 PM   #22 
  - How do you rationally decide who to love? There are ..  TreasonousBastard   Jun-04-06 01:51 PM   #23 
     - Love is not so mysterious...  Finder   Jun-04-06 02:00 PM   #28 
     - Now that is "On Point"  cosmik debris   Jun-04-06 02:04 PM   #29 
        - Not entirely...  TreasonousBastard   Jun-04-06 11:16 PM   #62 
           - What I am getting  cosmik debris   Jun-05-06 08:30 AM   #74 
           - Probably mostly true...  TreasonousBastard   Jun-05-06 09:19 AM   #79 
           - "Atheism, as defined as the secure belief that there is no God"  Zhade   Jun-07-06 07:39 PM   #99 
              - Labels are not helpful  cosmik debris   Jun-07-06 07:55 PM   #100 
  - Well that is another point...theists tend to be followers(personalities)  Finder   Jun-04-06 01:52 PM   #25 
  - Perhaps if you would define "theist"  Ron_Green   Jun-04-06 01:44 PM   #21 
  - I will NOT define theists  cosmik debris   Jun-04-06 01:58 PM   #27 
     - Speaking for only myself, then,  Ron_Green   Jun-04-06 03:21 PM   #36 
        - Labels are often misleading., but here are my summaries...  Finder   Jun-04-06 03:53 PM   #40 
        - In an earlier post  cosmik debris   Jun-04-06 04:02 PM   #41 
           - Glad to share.  Ron_Green   Jun-04-06 08:05 PM   #53 
              - I don't want to pick your ideas to pieces  cosmik debris   Jun-04-06 09:16 PM   #54 
                 - Not speaking for Ron, but expectations had nothing to do with it.  kwassa   Jun-04-06 09:34 PM   #57 
                    - What you said.  Ron_Green   Jun-05-06 12:10 AM   #63 
                       - Internal road map, expectations?  cosmik debris   Jun-05-06 07:18 AM   #67 
                          - The unusual experience might or might not be religious;  Ron_Green   Jun-05-06 01:18 PM   #86 
                             - FYI  cosmik debris   Jun-05-06 02:10 PM   #88 
                                - That's a pretty heavy dose - Baylor in the late '60's.  Ron_Green   Jun-05-06 04:45 PM   #90 
  - You want to lower the evidentiary standards for criminal conviction  struggle4progress   Jun-04-06 03:19 PM   #35 
  - I am trying to improve my understanding  cosmik debris   Jun-04-06 03:50 PM   #39 
     - I only asked some questions to attempt to clarify your aims.  struggle4progress   Jun-04-06 05:29 PM   #45 
  - Personally, I use intuition in both cases  ayeshahaqqiqa   Jun-04-06 06:30 PM   #47 
  - Wonderful answer  cosmik debris   Jun-04-06 06:58 PM   #49 
  - My Spiritual Beliefs Are Felt In My Heart  Southpawkicker   Jun-04-06 07:37 PM   #50 
  - I take that to mean  cosmik debris   Jun-04-06 09:28 PM   #56 
     - No It's Not That Simple  Southpawkicker   Jun-04-06 10:08 PM   #58 
        - I will try again  cosmik debris   Jun-05-06 07:25 AM   #68 
           - For Me It Isn't My Job To Determine Who Is Right And Who Is Wrong  Southpawkicker   Jun-05-06 08:10 PM   #92 
           - I was looking for the views of theists not agnostics  cosmik debris   Jun-05-06 10:09 PM   #94 
              - self delete  Southpawkicker   Jun-06-06 05:19 PM   #95 
              - What?  beam me up scottie   Jun-06-06 07:58 PM   #97 
           - I Just Fucking Know!  Southpawkicker   Jun-06-06 05:21 PM   #96 
  - Faith has little to do with "proof"  JerseygirlCT   Jun-04-06 07:49 PM   #51 
  - What example are you talking about?  cosmik debris   Jun-04-06 09:21 PM   #55 
     - Question  Southpawkicker   Jun-04-06 10:09 PM   #59 
     - I don't understand  cosmik debris   Jun-04-06 10:30 PM   #60 
        - Okay  Southpawkicker   Jun-04-06 10:34 PM   #61 
     - Sure  JerseygirlCT   Jun-05-06 06:38 AM   #66 
        - I used the legal analogy to show that dual standards are legit.  cosmik debris   Jun-05-06 09:02 AM   #76 
           - Sorry I jumped to that conclusion as well  JerseygirlCT   Jun-05-06 02:02 PM   #87 
  - Interesting question cosmic.  bluesbassman   Jun-05-06 01:50 AM   #64 
  - There are big differences in comparing ...  quantessd   Jun-05-06 02:41 AM   #65 
  - intuition, instinct, inkling  cosmik debris   Jun-05-06 07:48 AM   #70 
  - Confirmation bias  trotsky   Jun-05-06 07:44 AM   #69 
  - I knew you would show up sooner or later  cosmik debris   Jun-05-06 07:58 AM   #71 
     - Well, I used to be a Christian.  trotsky   Jun-05-06 08:12 AM   #72 
        - Have you torn down that wall  cosmik debris   Jun-05-06 09:13 AM   #78 
           - That's a pretty fair assessment.  trotsky   Jun-05-06 09:30 AM   #80 
              - I understand  cosmik debris   Jun-05-06 09:33 AM   #82 
  - Great question  TallahasseeGrannie   Jun-05-06 08:18 AM   #73 
  - It sounds like  cosmik debris   Jun-05-06 08:47 AM   #75 
     - No, not snarky at all  TallahasseeGrannie   Jun-05-06 09:08 AM   #77 
        - Well, I did not expect big things  cosmik debris   Jun-05-06 09:31 AM   #81 
           - No offense taken  TallahasseeGrannie   Jun-05-06 10:06 AM   #83 
              - So can you tell me  cosmik debris   Jun-05-06 10:15 AM   #84 
                 - Time and an accumulation of  TallahasseeGrannie   Jun-05-06 12:39 PM   #85 
                    - I wish I understood the difference between emotion and intuition.  cosmik debris   Jun-05-06 02:23 PM   #89 
                       - One more  TallahasseeGrannie   Jun-05-06 05:01 PM   #91 
  - Fantastic, challenging question.  Zhade   Jun-07-06 08:14 PM   #101 
 

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