| 17. I hope so. But this is an awfully materialistic world and my |
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children are not immune, alas.
My younger son dies a thousand deaths when I pull up to his school in our kinda noisy 1987 sedan with 250,000 miles. (Usually I arrive in our "new" car, though-- a ten year old minivan.)
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| -Where do you stand on the issue of faith versus works? |
pnwmom |
Jun-01-06 01:12 AM |
#0 |
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Why should you have to belive in Christ to be "saved"? |
panader0 |
Jun-01-06 01:17 AM |
#1 |
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I had already changed the post because that is not the issue |
pnwmom |
Jun-01-06 01:25 AM |
#4 |
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So, Who is to judge? |
TomInTib |
Jun-01-06 01:30 AM |
#7 |
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Each of us has to judge for ourselves. There's no other way. |
pnwmom |
Jun-01-06 01:35 AM |
#11 |
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Good for you and great for your children..n/t |
TomInTib |
Jun-01-06 01:44 AM |
#16 |
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I hope so. But this is an awfully materialistic world and my |
pnwmom |
Jun-01-06 01:51 AM |
#17 |
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Aww.., come on.. |
TomInTib |
Jun-01-06 02:04 AM |
#18 |
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Okay, I'll try that. |
pnwmom |
Jun-01-06 02:26 AM |
#20 |
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Works.. |
TomInTib |
Jun-01-06 01:20 AM |
#2 |
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Agreed- Works |
panader0 |
Jun-01-06 01:22 AM |
#3 |
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Well, I'd rather be around the person who does good things. |
pnwmom |
Jun-01-06 01:29 AM |
#6 |
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The whole idea of "faith" turns me off |
Erika |
Jun-01-06 01:28 AM |
#5 |
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Did you know -- I'm not kidding -- that we had a faith-based |
pnwmom |
Jun-01-06 01:32 AM |
#8 |
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Exactly. I'll keep my tax $ and you can keep the "faith" |
Erika |
Jun-01-06 01:34 AM |
#9 |
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Me, neither. |
pnwmom |
Jun-01-06 01:38 AM |
#13 |
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Good idea. Wiccans need to establish a charity and apply for federal |
lindisfarne |
Jun-01-06 02:44 AM |
#22 |
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Very interesting! |
pnwmom |
Jun-01-06 03:00 AM |
#23 |
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Deeds of faith, not works of law |
sandnsea |
Jun-01-06 01:34 AM |
#10 |
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Yeah...Bunk is a good word for it |
Erika |
Jun-01-06 01:37 AM |
#12 |
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I know what you mean about everything going bonkers at the same |
pnwmom |
Jun-01-06 01:43 AM |
#14 |
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Yeah, pretty much |
sandnsea |
Jun-01-06 03:28 AM |
#24 |
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works. a life without good works is nothing in my opinion. Works |
roguevalley |
Jun-01-06 01:44 AM |
#15 |
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a bit of both |
Wetzelbill |
Jun-01-06 02:04 AM |
#19 |
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Would "faith in christ" be of any use if you didn't live in accordance |
lindisfarne |
Jun-01-06 02:40 AM |
#21 |
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Of what benefit is a lifetime of good works, |
BuffyTheFundieSlayer |
Jun-01-06 04:13 AM |
#25 |
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But that's precisely the benefit. |
pnwmom |
Jun-01-06 04:30 AM |
#26 |
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I really shouldn't care |
BuffyTheFundieSlayer |
Jun-01-06 10:42 PM |
#58 |
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In what part of the country do you live? You should live here. It's |
pnwmom |
Jun-02-06 12:55 PM |
#78 |
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I'm in MD |
BuffyTheFundieSlayer |
Jun-02-06 10:25 PM |
#98 |
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People are too busy hiking here on Sundays to get into arguments |
pnwmom |
Jun-04-06 06:03 AM |
#110 |
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Well, there's a project for you. |
Ron_Green |
Jun-02-06 01:02 PM |
#80 |
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Thanks Ron |
BuffyTheFundieSlayer |
Jun-02-06 10:27 PM |
#99 |
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Me again, Buffy.. |
TallahasseeGrannie |
Jun-02-06 03:49 PM |
#89 |
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The question comes up from time to time |
BuffyTheFundieSlayer |
Jun-02-06 10:51 PM |
#100 |
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My goodness, Buffy |
TallahasseeGrannie |
Jun-03-06 07:38 AM |
#103 |
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I'm in MD |
BuffyTheFundieSlayer |
Jun-03-06 09:59 PM |
#107 |
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That is funny! Wow. How brave, though. I'd never sing loud enough |
pnwmom |
Jun-04-06 06:08 AM |
#112 |
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Me either |
BuffyTheFundieSlayer |
Jun-04-06 09:30 PM |
#145 |
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LOL! |
pnwmom |
Jun-05-06 12:45 AM |
#161 |
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I recommend when the door to door people come, you just tell |
pnwmom |
Jun-04-06 06:05 AM |
#111 |
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That doesn't work down here. |
beam me up scottie |
Jun-04-06 04:11 PM |
#127 |
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That's too bad. I've always found that they look at me like I've got |
pnwmom |
Jun-05-06 12:46 AM |
#162 |
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I work with a guy who's catholic. |
beam me up scottie |
Jun-05-06 12:48 AM |
#164 |
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Maryland, huh? Anywhere near Baltimore or are you out in the sticks? |
pnwmom |
Jun-05-06 12:54 AM |
#166 |
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I'm BMUS, not Buffy. |
beam me up scottie |
Jun-05-06 12:57 AM |
#168 |
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I can see that must get tiresome. I'd hate it there. |
pnwmom |
Jun-05-06 01:03 AM |
#169 |
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Yeah, I live next door to a girlie-girl. |
beam me up scottie |
Jun-05-06 01:11 AM |
#172 |
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You are too funny! (Compliment.) |
Pierogi_Pincher |
Jun-07-06 12:45 AM |
#228 |
| -
And back atcha! |
beam me up scottie |
Jun-07-06 01:03 AM |
#229 |
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T-Y for the welcoming shout out! |
Pierogi_Pincher |
Jun-07-06 01:22 AM |
#231 |
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Oops! Sorry. I replied to the wrong person, I think. |
pnwmom |
Jun-05-06 12:56 AM |
#167 |
| -
Heh, I just responded to your first post. |
beam me up scottie |
Jun-05-06 01:03 AM |
#170 |
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Hah! I had a friend who lived in Louisville at one point. |
pnwmom |
Jun-05-06 01:05 AM |
#171 |
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No, believe it or not, they wouldn't. |
beam me up scottie |
Jun-05-06 01:17 AM |
#176 |
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Faith w/o works is dead. |
Pierogi_Pincher |
Jun-07-06 12:25 AM |
#226 |
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Thank you so much. |
beam me up scottie |
Jun-07-06 12:32 AM |
#227 |
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Buffy, |
TallahasseeGrannie |
Jun-02-06 03:43 PM |
#88 |
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It is good advice for Atheists...IMO. |
Proud_Democratt |
Jun-07-06 06:15 PM |
#234 |
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I'm not sure if you can really bring atheists and agnostics into this |
muriel_volestrangler |
Jun-01-06 04:45 AM |
#27 |
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But this is why the atheists on the other thread can't understand where |
pnwmom |
Jun-01-06 05:16 AM |
#30 |
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You mischaracterize our position. |
trotsky |
Jun-01-06 10:20 AM |
#39 |
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In this country, today, faith vs. works is still a central problem. |
pnwmom |
Jun-01-06 10:50 AM |
#42 |
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Oh, it matters that you fight about it |
trotsky |
Jun-01-06 10:58 AM |
#43 |
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Sadly, I think that this |
Dorian Gray |
Jun-01-06 11:21 PM |
#63 |
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Again, it comes down to interpretation. |
trotsky |
Jun-02-06 07:04 AM |
#66 |
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Sure, it's interpretive. |
Dorian Gray |
Jun-02-06 10:37 AM |
#72 |
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But even you make exceptions for "Thou Shalt Not Kill" |
trotsky |
Jun-02-06 11:06 AM |
#73 |
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But, the abused who grow into abusers |
Dorian Gray |
Jun-02-06 11:15 AM |
#74 |
| -
Hitler may have gotten some of his justification from the Old |
pnwmom |
Jun-02-06 01:02 PM |
#81 |
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Matthew 5:17 |
trotsky |
Jun-02-06 01:22 PM |
#84 |
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More Often Abused Don't Grow Up To Be Abusers |
Southpawkicker |
Jun-04-06 10:52 PM |
#153 |
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Jesus's parable of "the good Samaritan" is the definitive answer to that |
pnwmom |
Jun-02-06 12:57 PM |
#79 |
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Not necessarily. |
trotsky |
Jun-02-06 02:05 PM |
#85 |
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Your quoted passage doesn't hold water. |
pnwmom |
Jun-04-06 06:00 AM |
#109 |
| -
Again, it's just another interpretation. |
trotsky |
Jun-04-06 09:48 AM |
#117 |
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yes, Dorian Gray, I agree when you say |
pnwmom |
Jun-02-06 12:51 PM |
#76 |
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*sigh* |
trotsky |
Jun-02-06 02:06 PM |
#86 |
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No we're not |
Goblinmonger |
Jun-01-06 10:23 AM |
#40 |
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The problem with that argument is it leaves no way to determine if |
pnwmom |
Jun-01-06 10:58 AM |
#44 |
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But even the definition of "good works" is relative |
riderinthestorm |
Jun-01-06 10:43 PM |
#60 |
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I just wrote a post, #75 below, which more or less addresses this question |
pnwmom |
Jun-02-06 12:53 PM |
#77 |
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It is a big deal among many Christians, though |
Pigwidgeon |
Jun-01-06 05:36 AM |
#31 |
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Thank you, Pidwidgeon, for a very enlightening post. |
pnwmom |
Jun-01-06 09:50 AM |
#36 |
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It's pretty clear that was exactly the OP's point. |
trotsky |
Jun-01-06 10:15 AM |
#37 |
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Only when they use the same arguments on us that the fundies use. |
pnwmom |
Jun-01-06 10:41 PM |
#57 |
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But no one is. |
trotsky |
Jun-02-06 07:00 AM |
#65 |
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It hasn't happened in these threads, but it has in others. |
pnwmom |
Jun-02-06 10:03 AM |
#69 |
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Fine then, argue with the person who brings it up. |
trotsky |
Jun-02-06 10:12 AM |
#71 |
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I wonder, Trotsky, if part of the reason this has been |
pnwmom |
Jun-02-06 12:47 PM |
#75 |
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It all depends on the Christian's viewpoint. |
trotsky |
Jun-02-06 01:17 PM |
#83 |
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Trotsky, you have given voice |
TallahasseeGrannie |
Jun-02-06 04:20 PM |
#90 |
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faith -- bad people do good works. |
xchrom |
Jun-01-06 04:52 AM |
#28 |
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I think you need to look at the totality of what they do. |
pnwmom |
Jun-01-06 05:10 AM |
#29 |
| -
encouraging people to embrace a poisoned faith is worse. |
xchrom |
Jun-01-06 06:23 AM |
#32 |
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Are you saying that Christianity itself is poisoned and an evil dogma? |
pnwmom |
Jun-01-06 09:40 AM |
#35 |
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i'm a christian myself -- however it has aspects that are |
xchrom |
Jun-01-06 12:08 PM |
#49 |
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Okay, that sounds reasonable. |
pnwmom |
Jun-01-06 08:03 PM |
#53 |
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I'm a behaviourist |
rock |
Jun-01-06 06:29 AM |
#33 |
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Even when I was a Christian, |
ayeshahaqqiqa |
Jun-01-06 07:01 AM |
#34 |
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I will avoid the charges of begging the question |
Goblinmonger |
Jun-01-06 10:19 AM |
#38 |
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But all that does is support the faith-is-all people, who are |
pnwmom |
Jun-01-06 11:09 AM |
#46 |
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And you know they aren't because........... |
Goblinmonger |
Jun-01-06 11:24 AM |
#48 |
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" We should be doing everything we can to attack that belief" |
beam me up scottie |
Jun-01-06 10:08 PM |
#56 |
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Great Pic Of The Church Lady |
Southpawkicker |
Jun-01-06 10:44 PM |
#61 |
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Thanks, Southpaw! |
beam me up scottie |
Jun-03-06 07:05 AM |
#102 |
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I agree |
TallahasseeGrannie |
Jun-02-06 04:28 PM |
#92 |
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observations from a whackjob |
Bill McBlueState |
Jun-01-06 10:28 AM |
#41 |
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Bill McBlueState, you said it better than I could. Guess it takes an |
pnwmom |
Jun-01-06 11:01 AM |
#45 |
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'Zackly'! n/t |
Pierogi_Pincher |
Jun-07-06 01:11 AM |
#230 |
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Don't call me a fundamentalist. |
El Supremo |
Jun-01-06 11:10 AM |
#47 |
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Salvation is by the grace of God, through faith, not works |
Zebedeo |
Jun-01-06 12:36 PM |
#50 |
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i also think that works is a hold over from the mother religion. |
xchrom |
Jun-01-06 06:13 PM |
#52 |
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Not this shit again. |
Evoman |
Jun-01-06 12:41 PM |
#51 |
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Sorry, but I really wasn't addressing you, Evoman. |
pnwmom |
Jun-01-06 08:06 PM |
#54 |
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Works ARE faith. |
JerseygirlCT |
Jun-01-06 09:02 PM |
#55 |
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Faith Without Works Is Dead |
Southpawkicker |
Jun-01-06 10:43 PM |
#59 |
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Well, |
Dorian Gray |
Jun-01-06 11:11 PM |
#62 |
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I think something should be clarified... |
TreasonousBastard |
Jun-02-06 12:53 AM |
#64 |
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Salvation can be in this life |
kwassa |
Jun-02-06 07:42 AM |
#67 |
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Makes some sense to me |
JerseygirlCT |
Jun-04-06 08:07 PM |
#143 |
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The two are inextricably intertwined; those that have faith will do good |
kwassa |
Jun-02-06 07:46 AM |
#68 |
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I like that. Good works IS a form of worship. |
pnwmom |
Jun-02-06 01:05 PM |
#82 |
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Good deeds are their own rewards. |
ozone_man |
Jun-02-06 10:09 AM |
#70 |
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Neither faith nor works... |
Kerry4Kerry |
Jun-02-06 02:34 PM |
#87 |
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Okay I'll bite. |
quantessd |
Jun-05-06 12:48 AM |
#163 |
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He was being facetious. |
beam me up scottie |
Jun-05-06 01:24 AM |
#180 |
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I didn't think the risk... |
Kerry4Kerry |
Jun-05-06 07:08 PM |
#192 |
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One cannot "earn" salvation - grace only. But without works, faith sucks. |
Rabrrrrrr |
Jun-02-06 04:26 PM |
#91 |
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The whole concept of "grace"... |
Kerry4Kerry |
Jun-02-06 04:54 PM |
#93 |
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Well then, good for you! |
Rabrrrrrr |
Jun-02-06 04:56 PM |
#94 |
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Not so wonderful when... |
Kerry4Kerry |
Jun-02-06 05:19 PM |
#95 |
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I didn't realize grace was doled out by chance. |
Rabrrrrrr |
Jun-02-06 05:21 PM |
#96 |
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In Catholic theology, grace comes to anyone who asks for it. |
pnwmom |
Jun-04-06 06:13 AM |
#113 |
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The traditional Lutheran doctrine is faith alone, but |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Jun-02-06 06:06 PM |
#97 |
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Oh brother. On the side of tolerance. I let individuals define themselves. |
beam me up scottie |
Jun-03-06 07:04 AM |
#101 |
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Of course you let individuals define themselves. Political, not tolerance. |
kwassa |
Jun-03-06 11:55 AM |
#104 |
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Deleted sub-thread |
Name removed |
Jun-03-06 01:20 PM |
#105 |
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Kwassa, you said this so well. |
pnwmom |
Jun-04-06 06:20 AM |
#115 |
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thanks, pnwmom! |
kwassa |
Jun-04-06 08:52 AM |
#116 |
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kwassa, your assertion is bullshit. |
trotsky |
Jun-04-06 09:52 AM |
#118 |
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You blame Christian scripture for the crimes of Hitler, which is |
pnwmom |
Jun-04-06 02:48 PM |
#119 |
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No, he doesn't. NO atheist has done that on this site. |
beam me up scottie |
Jun-04-06 03:01 PM |
#120 |
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Did you read the actual post? Or just the subject line? The quote was |
pnwmom |
Jun-04-06 03:34 PM |
#122 |
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Actually, I seem to be the only one who is reading posts in here. |
beam me up scottie |
Jun-04-06 04:02 PM |
#125 |
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Someone else has done his dirty work. |
Proud_Democratt |
Jun-04-06 04:21 PM |
#129 |
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Here's an example of Biblical genocide... |
Proud_Democratt |
Jun-04-06 04:24 PM |
#130 |
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And more.... |
Proud_Democratt |
Jun-04-06 04:33 PM |
#131 |
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bmus pretty much cleared up your misstatement. |
trotsky |
Jun-04-06 07:48 PM |
#141 |
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I really have no idea what bmus was saying, but I agree with you that |
pnwmom |
Jun-04-06 10:14 PM |
#148 |
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No, kwassa, that's called tolerance. Look it up. |
beam me up scottie |
Jun-04-06 03:51 PM |
#124 |
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self-delete |
kwassa |
Jun-04-06 09:24 PM |
#144 |
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Your welcome. Glad I could help. |
pnwmom |
Jun-04-06 06:17 AM |
#114 |
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You helped me understand your belief that christians are morally superior. |
beam me up scottie |
Jun-04-06 03:24 PM |
#121 |
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"I guess I should have used the sarcasm smilie, |
pnwmom |
Jun-04-06 03:37 PM |
#123 |
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Ah, pnwmom, I see you skipped over the information on tolerance again. |
beam me up scottie |
Jun-04-06 04:09 PM |
#126 |
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Why should I bother reading the post of someone who's insulting me? |
pnwmom |
Jun-04-06 04:42 PM |
#132 |
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Pay attention. What I'm asking you to read is information on tolerance |
beam me up scottie |
Jun-04-06 04:46 PM |
#133 |
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Or bossing me around? |
pnwmom |
Jun-04-06 04:52 PM |
#134 |
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ASKING you to read the essays is bossing you around? |
beam me up scottie |
Jun-04-06 05:09 PM |
#135 |
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DIRECTING me to "pay attention" is |
pnwmom |
Jun-04-06 05:43 PM |
#136 |
| -
Now you're being disingenuous again. |
beam me up scottie |
Jun-04-06 05:51 PM |
#137 |
| -
I've told you before. |
pnwmom |
Jun-04-06 06:13 PM |
#138 |
| -
How are you not getting this? |
beam me up scottie |
Jun-04-06 06:30 PM |
#139 |
| -
It's not that I don't get it, it's that we disagree. |
pnwmom |
Jun-04-06 06:55 PM |
#140 |
| -
Fine. I'll be tolerant of all christians while you'll be whatever you are. |
beam me up scottie |
Jun-04-06 09:56 PM |
#146 |
| -
So I've said I'm morally superior to atheists? That's interesting. |
pnwmom |
Jun-04-06 10:10 PM |
#147 |
| -
Are you kidding? |
beam me up scottie |
Jun-04-06 10:36 PM |
#151 |
| -
You know perfectly well that isn't something I said. |
pnwmom |
Jun-04-06 10:50 PM |
#152 |
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Sure you have. Many times, actually. |
beam me up scottie |
Jun-04-06 11:11 PM |
#155 |
| -
Where did I say that a Christian is morally superior to an |
pnwmom |
Jun-04-06 11:53 PM |
#157 |
| -
The total disconnect is stunning. |
beam me up scottie |
Jun-05-06 12:16 AM |
#159 |
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OFTEN is not ALWAYS. This is one of the exceptions to the No True |
pnwmom |
Jun-05-06 12:41 AM |
#160 |
| -
If you say you BELIEVE that Hitler wasn't a christian, |
beam me up scottie |
Jun-05-06 12:53 AM |
#165 |
| -
I can say that. I believe he wasn't. |
pnwmom |
Jun-05-06 01:18 AM |
#177 |
| -
See, this is where problems really come up... |
Solon |
Jun-05-06 01:17 AM |
#175 |
| -
It only matters to me when I hear people criticizing Christianity |
pnwmom |
Jun-05-06 01:21 AM |
#178 |
| -
I have never done that. |
beam me up scottie |
Jun-05-06 01:27 AM |
#181 |
| -
No, I didn't think it was ever you. If it happens again, I'll let you know |
pnwmom |
Jun-05-06 02:49 AM |
#183 |
| -
The biggest thing about this is the fact that so many... |
Solon |
Jun-05-06 01:41 AM |
#182 |
| -
Sigh. |
pnwmom |
Jun-05-06 02:50 AM |
#184 |
| -
Maybe this will help, pnwmom. |
beam me up scottie |
Jun-04-06 11:28 PM |
#156 |
| -
I'll think about it sometime, Beam Me Up. |
pnwmom |
Jun-04-06 11:55 PM |
#158 |
| -
delete |
pnwmom |
Jun-05-06 01:12 AM |
#173 |
| -
Inconsistent |
kwassa |
Jun-05-06 10:48 AM |
#187 |
| -
Your Actions Don't Make You A Christian |
Southpawkicker |
Jun-05-06 08:04 PM |
#193 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Jun-05-06 10:56 PM |
#197 |
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Then BMUS doesn't get to decide that Hitler is a Christian? |
kwassa |
Jun-06-06 08:08 AM |
#200 |
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So By Your Standard, If I Say I'm A Christian, And I Do |
Southpawkicker |
Jun-06-06 05:16 PM |
#207 |
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It was never my decision, kwassa. Each christian decides for himself. |
beam me up scottie |
Jun-06-06 05:39 PM |
#209 |
| -
" I think you intolerant because of your general behavior and attitude" |
beam me up scottie |
Jun-05-06 11:11 PM |
#198 |
| -
Pattern of behavior, BMUS |
kwassa |
Jun-06-06 08:19 AM |
#201 |
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kwassa, you might want to analyze your own "pattern of behavior" |
trotsky |
Jun-06-06 09:46 AM |
#202 |
| -
trotsky, you might want to mind your own business |
kwassa |
Jun-06-06 09:52 AM |
#203 |
| -
LOL |
trotsky |
Jun-06-06 09:57 AM |
#204 |
| -
Threat? |
kwassa |
Jun-06-06 12:26 PM |
#206 |
| -
Not accepting your opinion as proof makes me intolerant? |
beam me up scottie |
Jun-06-06 05:52 PM |
#210 |
| -
No, your treatment of others displays your intolerance |
kwassa |
Jun-06-06 07:15 PM |
#211 |
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Intolerant of the intolerant? Yes indeed I am. |
beam me up scottie |
Jun-06-06 07:31 PM |
#212 |
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You judge anyone who disagrees with you as intolerant |
kwassa |
Jun-06-06 07:37 PM |
#213 |
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Nope, just the people who refuse to accept the rights of others. |
beam me up scottie |
Jun-06-06 07:51 PM |
#214 |
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You behave in an intolerant way |
kwassa |
Jun-06-06 08:16 PM |
#216 |
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Your words speak for themselves: |
beam me up scottie |
Jun-06-06 08:28 PM |
#217 |
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Good stuff. Thanks for sharing, though it is offpoint as usual. |
kwassa |
Jun-06-06 09:07 PM |
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You're quite welcome. |
beam me up scottie |
Jun-06-06 09:33 PM |
#221 |
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What complete nonsense |
kwassa |
Jun-04-06 08:02 PM |
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Jun-04-06 10:24 PM |
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Now I Don't See That As Being The Case Kwassa |
Southpawkicker |
Jun-04-06 10:30 PM |
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I'm curious to know how far you'd take this Southpawkicker. |
pnwmom |
Jun-04-06 11:07 PM |
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I think I see where the miscommunication is occurring |
BuffyTheFundieSlayer |
Jun-05-06 04:48 AM |
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And Not Something For Humans To Judge n/t |
Southpawkicker |
Jun-05-06 04:47 PM |
#189 |
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A "True Christian" |
Southpawkicker |
Jun-05-06 04:40 PM |
#188 |
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Jun-06-06 12:24 AM |
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Tolerance is nonsense? |
beam me up scottie |
Jun-06-06 05:20 PM |
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But the rest of us need to accept BMUS's version of "tolerance" |
kwassa |
Jun-06-06 09:05 PM |
#218 |
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You know, if you were as tolerant of others as you claim to be, |
beam me up scottie |
Jun-06-06 09:30 PM |
#220 |
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You are consistently inconsisent. |
kwassa |
Jun-06-06 09:44 PM |
#222 |
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"No true Christian would be a Nazi." |
beam me up scottie |
Jun-06-06 09:49 PM |
#223 |
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So? It's my belief. What do you want to do about it? |
kwassa |
Jun-06-06 10:03 PM |
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Are you going for the record, kwassa? |
beam me up scottie |
Jun-06-06 10:11 PM |
#225 |
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Reading comprehension: My words don't need to be qualified |
kwassa |
Jun-07-06 09:44 AM |
#232 |
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Then Ratzinger isn't a Christian, since he technically WAS a Nazi. |
Zhade |
Jun-07-06 06:00 PM |
#233 |
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Faith alone...is only talk. I have seldom seen |
Proud_Democratt |
Jun-03-06 05:11 PM |
#106 |
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I Know People Who Walk The Walk |
Southpawkicker |
Jun-05-06 08:24 PM |
#195 |
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Essentially "works" should be the product of "faith"... |
rasputin1952 |
Jun-03-06 10:35 PM |
#108 |
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I judge a person on what they do, and not.... |
IMModerate |
Jun-04-06 04:15 PM |
#128 |
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Excuse me if I'm missing something, but... |
quantessd |
Jun-05-06 01:15 AM |
#174 |
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True enough. |
pnwmom |
Jun-05-06 01:22 AM |
#179 |
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I replied to the wrong post... |
MrWiggles |
Jun-05-06 06:55 PM |
#190 |
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Now that the flamewar has died down a little, |
Random_Australian |
Jun-05-06 04:25 AM |
#185 |
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Works - more important by far! |
MrWiggles |
Jun-05-06 06:58 PM |
#191 |
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For Christians that believe that FAITH is all you need... |
Proud_Democratt |
Jun-05-06 08:09 PM |
#194 |
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It's neither OUR faith or works - salvation is "not about me", it is a |
54anickel |
Jun-05-06 10:14 PM |
#196 |
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Faith... |
Brentos |
Jun-06-06 12:05 PM |
#205 |
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According to the New Testament, Jesus healed MANY... |
Proud_Democratt |
Jun-06-06 07:59 PM |
#215 |
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