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the Pope isn't blaming God. He's saying that none of us, on a gut level, can understand why God wouldn't interfere with the Holocaust. He's expressing the question almost any religious person has asked -- which is why, if God is all good and all powerful, such evil can exist. This is such a fundamental problem to religion that it even has a formal name: "The Theological Problem of Evil."
The Catholic answer, if I remember correctly, is that God has given humans free will, and so they are free to do evil things.
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| -Why is the Pope blaming God for the Holocaust? |
hedgehog |
May-28-06 06:00 PM |
#0 |
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Cause he's German. |
Proud_Democratt |
May-28-06 06:00 PM |
#1 |
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the Pope or God ? nt |
tocqueville |
May-28-06 06:14 PM |
#7 |
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God is an American. |
varkam |
May-28-06 07:51 PM |
#37 |
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! |
beam me up scottie |
May-28-06 07:56 PM |
#38 |
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Got mit uns ? |
tocqueville |
May-28-06 09:13 PM |
#46 |
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Nein. Nein. |
varkam |
May-29-06 12:38 AM |
#50 |
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Both of course! |
JVS |
May-30-06 12:30 AM |
#126 |
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What did he say exactly? I haven't heard about this. n/t |
pnwmom |
May-28-06 06:05 PM |
#2 |
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(Translation of) his speech here |
muriel_volestrangler |
May-28-06 06:13 PM |
#5 |
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I don't know who I hate more: Rat Face Ratinger or Bush |
Imagine My Surprise |
May-28-06 06:14 PM |
#8 |
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what has he done to you, except not being a Protestant ? |
tocqueville |
May-28-06 06:18 PM |
#11 |
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Who is more of a threat to the whole world right now? |
pnwmom |
May-28-06 06:25 PM |
#17 |
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I agree with you. |
Proud_Democratt |
May-28-06 07:26 PM |
#35 |
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I am deeply offended by Ratzinger but I think Bush is a far greater threat |
pnwmom |
May-28-06 08:35 PM |
#40 |
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because if God didn't do it, man did and man is a wanker. name |
roguevalley |
May-28-06 07:24 PM |
#34 |
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Remember, he was also in Hitler's Nazi Youth... |
Imagine My Surprise |
May-28-06 06:10 PM |
#3 |
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everybody was at that time - or else, big deal |
tocqueville |
May-28-06 06:16 PM |
#9 |
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catholics and lutherans loved the nazi party - |
msongs |
May-28-06 06:22 PM |
#14 |
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Most of those who OPPOSED the Nazis were Catholic, Lutheran, or Jewish. |
pnwmom |
May-28-06 06:32 PM |
#18 |
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Actually, many who opposed the Nazis were Communists. |
onager |
May-30-06 09:52 AM |
#131 |
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ALMOST ALL Germans are Catholics or Lutherans, braniac. |
Che_Nuevara |
May-28-06 06:49 PM |
#23 |
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to be a hero demands to be very brave in those times |
tocqueville |
May-28-06 08:55 PM |
#42 |
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Exacty, tocqueville. Whatever we say now could be used against us! |
pnwmom |
May-29-06 01:43 AM |
#54 |
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Hold on a second! |
Zhade |
May-31-06 03:42 PM |
#179 |
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Along with every other young person |
TallahasseeGrannie |
May-29-06 08:12 AM |
#64 |
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Linky, or at least a Quote? n/t |
Southpawkicker |
May-28-06 06:12 PM |
#4 |
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Here's link: |
Imagine My Surprise |
May-28-06 06:13 PM |
#6 |
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God wasn't |
BayCityProgressive |
May-28-06 06:18 PM |
#10 |
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I don't know |
BayCityProgressive |
May-28-06 06:21 PM |
#13 |
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I Guess I Would Say Pope, God Did Do Something About It |
Southpawkicker |
May-28-06 06:20 PM |
#12 |
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I think it was a rhetorical question, but it is a question many people ask |
pnwmom |
May-28-06 06:24 PM |
#16 |
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There was NO Godly intervention during the Holocaust!!!! |
Proud_Democratt |
May-28-06 06:48 PM |
#22 |
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Well, now that Proud_Democratt has succinctly, |
Che_Nuevara |
May-28-06 06:52 PM |
#25 |
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Nice idea.....you can worship the God that allows KILLING.... |
Proud_Democratt |
May-28-06 07:05 PM |
#27 |
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I actually don't believe in or worship any god, |
Che_Nuevara |
May-28-06 07:07 PM |
#28 |
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I will punctuate HOW I want and when I want!!!!!! Got that??? |
Proud_Democratt |
May-28-06 07:13 PM |
#32 |
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Yes, I figured that out, actually. |
Che_Nuevara |
May-28-06 07:16 PM |
#33 |
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Man!!!!!! What ARE we without |
TallahasseeGrannie |
May-29-06 08:17 AM |
#65 |
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On the other hand - |
hedgehog |
May-29-06 10:37 AM |
#66 |
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Plus 5 million more |
catbert836 |
May-29-06 01:15 PM |
#67 |
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I find it strange and ironic how God can create the heavens and |
Proud_Democratt |
May-29-06 09:39 PM |
#114 |
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Thanks Muriel and Southpawkicker for the links. As I read this, hedgehog, |
pnwmom |
May-28-06 06:22 PM |
#15 |
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It Is A Hard Question To Answer Without Admitting |
Southpawkicker |
May-28-06 06:32 PM |
#19 |
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Maybe because there is no god? |
smirkymonkey |
May-29-06 06:36 PM |
#75 |
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And the Popes claim infallibility. How does that square with enabling |
shain from kane |
May-29-06 06:54 PM |
#77 |
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Well, if God is almighty and good, he should have stepped in. |
Union Thug |
May-28-06 06:38 PM |
#20 |
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he is displaying, to no surprise, a juvenile understanding of the faith. |
xchrom |
May-28-06 06:47 PM |
#21 |
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However, whenever someone asks "Why would God let this happen?" |
Rufus T. Firefly |
May-28-06 06:51 PM |
#24 |
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Let's put this Hitler Youth bs to bed. |
Che_Nuevara |
May-28-06 06:56 PM |
#26 |
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I dislike the guy |
beam me up scottie |
May-28-06 07:10 PM |
#29 |
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I also dislike Ratzinger aka Benedict for many |
Che_Nuevara |
May-28-06 07:11 PM |
#30 |
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See upthread. The apologia isn't convincing. |
Zhade |
May-31-06 03:51 PM |
#180 |
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Maybe not. |
beam me up scottie |
May-31-06 05:25 PM |
#183 |
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May-31-06 05:52 PM |
#184 |
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Have you noticed |
beam me up scottie |
May-31-06 06:02 PM |
#185 |
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May-31-06 06:06 PM |
#186 |
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He's something else, isn't he? |
beam me up scottie |
May-31-06 06:17 PM |
#188 |
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May-31-06 08:12 PM |
#190 |
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Wow - now mentioning the posts were deleted, gets deleted. |
Zhade |
May-31-06 10:13 PM |
#193 |
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Elucidate |
kwassa |
May-31-06 06:11 PM |
#187 |
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Well, not TOTALLY compulsory |
beachmom |
May-29-06 04:45 PM |
#72 |
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I never once in my life said that Ratzinger was admirable. |
Che_Nuevara |
May-29-06 05:14 PM |
#74 |
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it's a legitimate question |
Bill McBlueState |
May-28-06 07:11 PM |
#31 |
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And yet most Jews managed to hold onto their faith, and no one was more |
pnwmom |
May-28-06 08:41 PM |
#41 |
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The Catholic Church was working with Hitler so that he wouldn't |
FloridaPat |
May-28-06 07:33 PM |
#36 |
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According to this atheistic web site, Hitler was born Catholic |
pnwmom |
May-28-06 09:00 PM |
#43 |
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Uh, those quotes are from Table Talk. |
beam me up scottie |
May-28-06 09:12 PM |
#45 |
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I've seen them elsewhere, but this was the first site I ran across. Are |
pnwmom |
May-28-06 09:32 PM |
#47 |
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They're hearsay. |
beam me up scottie |
May-28-06 09:39 PM |
#48 |
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Very few "fallen-away" Catholics formally renounce their faith. They just |
pnwmom |
May-29-06 01:38 AM |
#52 |
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He stated over and over that he believed in the christian god. |
beam me up scottie |
May-29-06 01:44 AM |
#55 |
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I am not aware that those statements continued throughout his life. |
pnwmom |
May-29-06 02:07 AM |
#58 |
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Yes, keep telling yourself that. |
beam me up scottie |
May-29-06 02:15 AM |
#59 |
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I agree with the writer here: the answer to whether Hitler remained |
pnwmom |
May-29-06 04:00 AM |
#62 |
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So you believe in opinion instead of history? |
beam me up scottie |
May-29-06 03:41 PM |
#70 |
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Hitler's religion is an interesting topic. |
catbert836 |
May-29-06 01:23 PM |
#68 |
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I can say Hitler wasn't a Christian. It is quite easy to do. |
kwassa |
May-29-06 02:19 PM |
#69 |
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"I am now as before a Catholic and will always remain so." |
beam me up scottie |
May-29-06 03:52 PM |
#71 |
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.... |
catbert836 |
May-29-06 05:07 PM |
#73 |
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Very good point, catbert. |
beam me up scottie |
May-29-06 06:49 PM |
#76 |
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No true Christian would be a Nazi. |
kwassa |
May-29-06 08:15 PM |
#78 |
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"No True Scotsman puts sugar on his porridge." |
beam me up scottie |
May-29-06 08:39 PM |
#79 |
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Reading is fundamental |
kwassa |
May-29-06 08:49 PM |
#84 |
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Reading comprehension problems, kwassa? |
beam me up scottie |
May-29-06 09:10 PM |
#93 |
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That's convenient |
catbert836 |
May-29-06 08:40 PM |
#80 |
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"Oh, yeah, blame those GODDAMN ATHEISTS" |
beam me up scottie |
May-29-06 08:45 PM |
#81 |
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I do my part. |
catbert836 |
May-29-06 08:47 PM |
#82 |
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Your father and I are so proud of you. |
beam me up scottie |
May-29-06 08:48 PM |
#83 |
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Thanks, mom! |
catbert836 |
May-29-06 08:52 PM |
#85 |
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You folks seem to be into much back-slapping |
kwassa |
May-29-06 08:55 PM |
#87 |
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Well, catbert IS an honorary member of the Whackjob Atheist Corps. |
beam me up scottie |
May-29-06 09:02 PM |
#89 |
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So, back-slapping is part of the ritual of your Corps? |
kwassa |
May-29-06 09:38 PM |
#112 |
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Well if I told you that, |
beam me up scottie |
May-29-06 09:40 PM |
#115 |
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Does it bother you that much? |
catbert836 |
May-29-06 09:09 PM |
#92 |
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Actually, they don't. |
kwassa |
May-29-06 09:38 PM |
#110 |
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Yeah, the atheists don't claim the other guys own this forum and the mods |
beam me up scottie |
May-29-06 09:43 PM |
#118 |
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Self-identification isn't enough. |
kwassa |
May-29-06 08:54 PM |
#86 |
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Yes, catbert. |
beam me up scottie |
May-29-06 09:00 PM |
#88 |
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It is simply political agenda. |
kwassa |
May-29-06 09:18 PM |
#98 |
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You claim to know that Hitler wasn't a christian. |
beam me up scottie |
May-29-06 09:20 PM |
#101 |
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And again. |
catbert836 |
May-29-06 09:07 PM |
#91 |
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try as you might |
kwassa |
May-29-06 09:27 PM |
#104 |
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A reasonable person wouldn't think they could decide who is christian |
beam me up scottie |
May-29-06 09:32 PM |
#106 |
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Incorrect. |
kwassa |
May-29-06 09:36 PM |
#109 |
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Nope, reasonable people don't think they can read the minds of dead people |
beam me up scottie |
May-29-06 09:39 PM |
#113 |
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Well, to be fair, |
Dorian Gray |
May-30-06 04:03 PM |
#135 |
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YOU don't get to determine who's christian and neither does kwassa. |
beam me up scottie |
May-30-06 06:35 PM |
#137 |
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"You have no credibility" |
Dorian Gray |
May-31-06 09:04 AM |
#150 |
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Okay then, he was a bad christian. |
beam me up scottie |
May-31-06 09:53 AM |
#155 |
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Okay... |
Dorian Gray |
May-31-06 10:39 AM |
#162 |
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You are not a Christian then, kwassa. |
trotsky |
May-30-06 07:03 AM |
#128 |
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Walks the walk, eh? Then YOU'RE not a Christian. |
Zhade |
May-31-06 04:34 PM |
#181 |
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The defining trait of dictators is that they lie. |
lvx35 |
May-29-06 09:05 PM |
#90 |
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No True Scotsman puts sugar on his porridge. |
beam me up scottie |
May-29-06 09:13 PM |
#94 |
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"No True Scotsman" is a totally fallacious argument |
kwassa |
May-29-06 09:16 PM |
#95 |
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Yes, you do need to prove otherwise. |
beam me up scottie |
May-29-06 09:18 PM |
#99 |
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You are incorrect. |
lvx35 |
May-29-06 09:26 PM |
#103 |
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Nope, sorry. |
beam me up scottie |
May-29-06 09:30 PM |
#105 |
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No, I don't. |
kwassa |
May-29-06 09:35 PM |
#107 |
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Your opinion and five bucks will get me a cappuccino at Starbucks. |
beam me up scottie |
May-29-06 09:38 PM |
#111 |
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Guess what? You don't either. |
kwassa |
May-29-06 09:41 PM |
#116 |
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Wow, you are a novice aren't you? |
beam me up scottie |
May-29-06 09:45 PM |
#119 |
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You need to understand that your have completely lost your argument |
kwassa |
May-29-06 09:52 PM |
#120 |
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Individual christians get to decide if they're christian, kwassa, not you. |
beam me up scottie |
May-29-06 09:56 PM |
#121 |
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But you just told me it was God's job to decide that. |
kwassa |
May-30-06 07:59 AM |
#130 |
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If it's up to God, why are you telling us who is and who isn't a christian |
beam me up scottie |
May-30-06 09:52 AM |
#132 |
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If it is up to God, how can you claim Hitler is a Christian? |
kwassa |
May-30-06 11:08 AM |
#133 |
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I didn't claim that, HE did. |
beam me up scottie |
May-30-06 06:51 PM |
#138 |
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Which is why you lost this argument awhile ago, |
kwassa |
May-31-06 07:14 AM |
#148 |
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Wishful thinking on your part, kwassa, since you still have no proof |
beam me up scottie |
May-31-06 09:55 AM |
#156 |
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Hitler stating he was a Christian is not evidence of anything |
kwassa |
May-31-06 11:41 AM |
#164 |
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Saying Hitler wasn't a christian because kwassa says so isn't evidence |
beam me up scottie |
May-31-06 12:13 PM |
#165 |
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The burden of proof is upon those who assert Hitler's Christianity |
kwassa |
May-31-06 12:37 PM |
#167 |
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Hitler said he was a christian. Just like you say you are, kwassa. |
beam me up scottie |
May-31-06 01:48 PM |
#170 |
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Sorry, you are changing the rules of the game when you start to lose |
kwassa |
May-31-06 02:05 PM |
#172 |
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Nope. Same No True Scotsman fallacy, same rules as before. |
beam me up scottie |
May-31-06 02:15 PM |
#173 |
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Your claim, your proof, have offered nothing, thread over. |
kwassa |
May-31-06 02:26 PM |
#176 |
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ROFLMAO !!! Now you think you can decide when a thread is over? |
beam me up scottie |
May-31-06 02:39 PM |
#178 |
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The statement should be... |
Dorian Gray |
May-30-06 04:07 PM |
#136 |
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Wow. Did you figure that out all by yourself? |
beam me up scottie |
May-30-06 06:58 PM |
#139 |
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And who is to decide whose opinion has value? |
kwassa |
May-31-06 07:16 AM |
#149 |
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Opinion is useless when it's all you have for evidence of a belief. |
beam me up scottie |
May-31-06 09:58 AM |
#157 |
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Hitler stating a claim to be Christian is not evidence |
kwassa |
May-31-06 11:38 AM |
#163 |
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You don’t get to decide who is and who isn’t a christian, kwassa. |
beam me up scottie |
May-31-06 01:58 PM |
#171 |
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"Your opinion is as worthless as kwassa's." |
Dorian Gray |
May-31-06 09:16 AM |
#151 |
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Yep, in this context, it is. |
beam me up scottie |
May-31-06 10:05 AM |
#158 |
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I never said that my opinion trumped history.... |
Dorian Gray |
May-31-06 10:19 AM |
#160 |
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How ridiculous. |
beam me up scottie |
May-31-06 12:25 PM |
#166 |
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You never proved Hitler was a Christian. Your claim, you prove. |
kwassa |
May-31-06 12:40 PM |
#168 |
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I don't have to, kwassa. He said he was-you need to prove otherwise. |
beam me up scottie |
May-31-06 01:45 PM |
#169 |
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But you said it was up to God to decide, not Hitler |
kwassa |
May-31-06 02:19 PM |
#174 |
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Using the reading comprehension defense again, kwassa? |
beam me up scottie |
May-31-06 02:35 PM |
#177 |
| -
Okay. |
catbert836 |
May-31-06 08:09 PM |
#189 |
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Catbert... |
Dorian Gray |
May-31-06 10:31 PM |
#195 |
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And no true christian would lie. |
beam me up scottie |
May-29-06 09:17 PM |
#96 |
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Of course Christians lie.... |
Dorian Gray |
May-31-06 09:29 AM |
#152 |
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That's why the No True Scotsman fallacy is a fallacy. |
beam me up scottie |
May-31-06 10:11 AM |
#159 |
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Oh, and silly little old me... |
Dorian Gray |
May-31-06 10:34 AM |
#161 |
| -
Oh, that's nothing. |
beam me up scottie |
May-31-06 05:06 PM |
#182 |
| -
Well, that's another issue, |
Dorian Gray |
Jun-01-06 08:14 AM |
#201 |
| -
I recommend you read the entire sub-thread. |
catbert836 |
May-29-06 09:17 PM |
#97 |
| -
Again, you are making the mistake of taking Hitler at face value, against. |
lvx35 |
May-29-06 09:36 PM |
#108 |
| -
And we should take your word for it because? |
beam me up scottie |
May-29-06 09:42 PM |
#117 |
| -
The defining trait of dictators is that they lie.... |
Proud_Democratt |
May-29-06 09:18 PM |
#100 |
| -
Well, gosh, Proud Democrat, real christians don't lie. |
beam me up scottie |
May-29-06 09:22 PM |
#102 |
| -
They're accustomed to ..."living a lie" |
Proud_Democratt |
May-29-06 10:05 PM |
#122 |
| -
I didn't mean that. |
beam me up scottie |
May-29-06 10:14 PM |
#123 |
| -
There are many Christians that are very moral. However, |
Proud_Democratt |
May-29-06 10:41 PM |
#124 |
| -
Morals, morays and morans. |
beam me up scottie |
May-29-06 10:44 PM |
#125 |
| -
But there is no absolute agreement on just what the gospels say. |
trotsky |
May-30-06 07:05 AM |
#129 |
| -
Its just common sense trotsky. |
lvx35 |
May-30-06 07:42 PM |
#140 |
| -
So where in Mein Kampf does Hitler mention Nietzsche? |
beam me up scottie |
May-30-06 08:09 PM |
#141 |
| -
You have to look at what doctrine was acted out. |
lvx35 |
May-30-06 09:59 PM |
#143 |
| -
Historically inaccurate? |
beam me up scottie |
May-30-06 10:07 PM |
#144 |
| -
I am sure that the German people |
Dorian Gray |
May-31-06 09:33 AM |
#153 |
| -
Um, lvx? |
trotsky |
May-30-06 08:35 PM |
#142 |
| -
Well fine! :) |
lvx35 |
May-30-06 10:24 PM |
#145 |
| -
For the record, |
beam me up scottie |
May-30-06 10:31 PM |
#146 |
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This is important |
Dorian Gray |
May-31-06 09:37 AM |
#154 |
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I always have. |
beam me up scottie |
May-31-06 02:20 PM |
#175 |
| -
Of course they can. |
Dorian Gray |
May-31-06 10:44 PM |
#196 |
| -
Oh please. |
beam me up scottie |
May-31-06 11:13 PM |
#197 |
| -
Your error in using the "No True Scotman" fallacy |
kwassa |
Jun-01-06 07:34 AM |
#199 |
| -
Your error is using the No True Scotsman fallacy to support your beliefs. |
beam me up scottie |
Jun-01-06 10:05 AM |
#204 |
| -
"Hitler was not at any stage of his life a Christian." |
kwassa |
Jun-01-06 12:19 PM |
#206 |
| -
That's an opinion, and opinion is not evidence, kwassa. |
beam me up scottie |
Jun-01-06 12:32 PM |
#209 |
| -
Opinions of professional historians are worth more than others. |
kwassa |
Jun-01-06 01:22 PM |
#216 |
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Not when it comes to reading the minds of dead people ! Try again. |
beam me up scottie |
Jun-01-06 08:42 PM |
#236 |
| -
"Adolf Hitler - Christian, Atheist, or Neither?" |
kwassa |
Jun-01-06 12:24 PM |
#208 |
| -
Opinions are like assholes, kwassa! |
beam me up scottie |
Jun-01-06 12:36 PM |
#210 |
| -
There is no renouncing requirement to become an ex-Christian |
kwassa |
Jun-01-06 01:00 PM |
#215 |
| -
THere is if you need to prove he renounced his faith. |
beam me up scottie |
Jun-01-06 02:06 PM |
#217 |
| -
But I don't need to prove that |
kwassa |
Jun-01-06 02:29 PM |
#227 |
| -
Yes, you do. No facts=no proof. You need to prove he renounced his faith. |
beam me up scottie |
Jun-01-06 08:46 PM |
#237 |
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Those quotes are from "Hitler's Table Talk". |
catbert836 |
Jun-01-06 04:03 PM |
#235 |
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RE: "Christianity is an invention of sick brains" |
bloom |
Jun-05-06 10:02 AM |
#245 |
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"Was Hitler a Christian?" |
kwassa |
Jun-01-06 12:40 PM |
#211 |
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Opinion |
beam me up scottie |
Jun-01-06 02:06 PM |
#218 |
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You have nothing but opinion yourself, and no historical credentials |
kwassa |
Jun-01-06 02:30 PM |
#228 |
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I don't need them, you need to prove Hitler wrong, not me. |
beam me up scottie |
Jun-01-06 08:48 PM |
#238 |
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"I am now as before a Catholic and will always remain so." |
beam me up scottie |
Jun-01-06 02:11 PM |
#223 |
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more from "Was Hitler a Christian?" |
kwassa |
Jun-01-06 12:42 PM |
#212 |
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Opinion. |
beam me up scottie |
Jun-01-06 02:07 PM |
#219 |
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No rebuttal from you. Can't make one? |
kwassa |
Jun-01-06 02:31 PM |
#229 |
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I don't need to, you have no proof. Give me something to rebut. |
beam me up scottie |
Jun-01-06 08:55 PM |
#239 |
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"I am fighting for the work of the Lord" |
beam me up scottie |
Jun-01-06 02:07 PM |
#220 |
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A different author on "Was Hitler a Christian?" |
kwassa |
Jun-01-06 12:50 PM |
#213 |
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Opinion. |
beam me up scottie |
Jun-01-06 02:08 PM |
#221 |
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Historically researched opinion, worth more than unresearched |
kwassa |
Jun-01-06 02:32 PM |
#230 |
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Still opinion, not proof. |
beam me up scottie |
Jun-01-06 08:58 PM |
#240 |
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"I am now as before a Catholic and will always remain so." |
beam me up scottie |
Jun-01-06 02:15 PM |
#224 |
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And you believe a patholigical liar? |
kwassa |
Jun-01-06 02:36 PM |
#233 |
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Why not? I believe you when you claim to be a christian. |
beam me up scottie |
Jun-01-06 09:01 PM |
#241 |
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"The Psychology of Hitler" |
kwassa |
Jun-01-06 12:56 PM |
#214 |
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Opinion. |
beam me up scottie |
Jun-01-06 02:09 PM |
#222 |
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One note reply, aren't you? It is informed opinion, not uniformed. |
kwassa |
Jun-01-06 02:34 PM |
#231 |
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Opinion is not proof. Why use more notes when you can't even grok one? |
beam me up scottie |
Jun-01-06 09:06 PM |
#242 |
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"I am fighting for the work of the Lord." |
beam me up scottie |
Jun-01-06 02:17 PM |
#225 |
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Doesn't make him a Christian |
kwassa |
Jun-01-06 02:34 PM |
#232 |
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According to whom? Kwassa the Magnificent who just KNOWS he was lying? |
beam me up scottie |
Jun-01-06 09:11 PM |
#243 |
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Straight Dope |
kwassa |
Jun-01-06 02:28 PM |
#226 |
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Dope is definitely the word, kwassa. HINT: that's an opinion, not proof. |
beam me up scottie |
Jun-01-06 09:14 PM |
#244 |
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I'm NOT an apologetic who doesn't believe that |
Dorian Gray |
Jun-01-06 08:07 AM |
#200 |
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Did I say you were? |
beam me up scottie |
Jun-01-06 09:53 AM |
#203 |
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Your response to me was |
Dorian Gray |
Jun-01-06 10:39 AM |
#205 |
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My point all along has been that bad people can be christians. |
beam me up scottie |
Jun-01-06 12:21 PM |
#207 |
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Funny thing about Nietzsche |
catbert836 |
May-31-06 08:17 PM |
#191 |
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Say what you will about Nietzsche as a man... |
lvx35 |
Jun-01-06 12:04 AM |
#198 |
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Scratch that, compiler. |
catbert836 |
Jun-01-06 03:50 PM |
#234 |
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Nietzche is definitely |
Dorian Gray |
Jun-01-06 08:21 AM |
#202 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
May-30-06 07:01 AM |
#127 |
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Anybody who worships christ is a christian..PERIOD! |
Evoman |
May-31-06 01:04 AM |
#147 |
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Cause apparently right wing "facism" has gone down a memory hole? |
applegrove |
May-28-06 07:59 PM |
#39 |
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It is one thing to remember, it is quite another to be there at the site. |
pnwmom |
May-28-06 09:02 PM |
#44 |
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I would imagine being there would be soul-blowing. But the pope.. |
applegrove |
May-29-06 03:06 AM |
#61 |
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After tragedies, people ALWAYS ask why God allowed it to happen. |
Lefty48197 |
May-28-06 11:32 PM |
#49 |
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because if god exists he is the ultimate being |
zonmoy |
May-29-06 12:58 AM |
#51 |
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As I said, the Catholic response is that God gave humanity free will, and |
pnwmom |
May-29-06 01:40 AM |
#53 |
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So are you saying that because of free will |
zonmoy |
May-29-06 01:53 AM |
#56 |
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I'm not saying anything personally. I have no idea. The whole |
pnwmom |
May-29-06 02:05 AM |
#57 |
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To try to assuage the guilt of the humans who participated in it |
BuffyTheFundieSlayer |
May-29-06 02:57 AM |
#60 |
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I don't see the Pope, or anyone else,... |
TreasonousBastard |
May-29-06 04:13 AM |
#63 |
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Blaming the Holocaust on 'Gods plan' serves several purposes |
moobu2 |
May-30-06 02:53 PM |
#134 |
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Maybe the Pope didn't get what he was expecting. |
Evoman |
May-31-06 08:27 PM |
#192 |
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Better to blame God than for the RCC to accept blame. |
ozone_man |
May-31-06 10:26 PM |
#194 |
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That's exactly right. |
moobu2 |
Jun-05-06 10:44 AM |
#246 |
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I would suggest that at least part of that agenda comes from |
hedgehog |
Jun-05-06 03:02 PM |
#247 |
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That Nazi agenda was a Christian agenda. |
moobu2 |
Jun-05-06 04:20 PM |
#248 |
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