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Response to Reply #154
165. I Don't Go Around Bashing Your Beliefs
that is my POINT
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  -I'm Really Tired Of People Comparing Faith In God To Santa Claus Southpawkicker  May-17-06 07:29 PM   #0 
  - I believe God is a fairy tale.  Bornaginhooligan   May-17-06 07:32 PM   #1 
  - Hum...  Lost-in-FL   May-17-06 07:33 PM   #4 
  - Wanna share some of that pocorn?  Dr.Phool   May-17-06 07:38 PM   #16 
  - Ditto  RC   May-17-06 07:34 PM   #6 
  - Hey! Don't be dissin Sasquatch!  Juniperx   May-17-06 07:35 PM   #8 
  - Ah...  Bornaginhooligan   May-17-06 07:36 PM   #14 
     - The Cryptozoology folks would argue that there is more proof  Union Thug   May-17-06 07:39 PM   #17 
        - Absolutely.  Bornaginhooligan   May-17-06 07:40 PM   #20 
           - But, we do know for a fact that  Champion_Jack   May-17-06 07:42 PM   #23 
  - Was there anything in the OP disrespectful of your beliefs? nt  JerseygirlCT   May-17-06 07:46 PM   #28 
  - Disrespectful?  Bornaginhooligan   May-17-06 07:48 PM   #30 
     - So your belief system consists of comparing God to Santa?  JerseygirlCT   May-17-06 07:56 PM   #37 
        - I'm an atheist.  Bornaginhooligan   May-17-06 08:04 PM   #45 
        - No, I Said That People Who Say That Belief In God  Southpawkicker   May-17-06 09:20 PM   #135 
        - I think you need to go and look up the definition of "fairy tale".  Donald Ian Rankin   May-23-06 06:53 AM   #408 
        - Mine is... it's all myth  Juniperx   May-17-06 08:06 PM   #49 
        - More of an announcement atheists should shut up. For the record,  Random_Australian   May-18-06 05:02 AM   #246 
           - you forgot #3  unpossibles   Jun-19-06 05:17 PM   #418 
  - Ok, what are your beliefs?  ayeshahaqqiqa   May-17-06 08:01 PM   #41 
  - I'm an atheist.  Bornaginhooligan   May-17-06 08:11 PM   #54 
     - Thank you!  ayeshahaqqiqa   May-17-06 08:28 PM   #77 
     - Pretty close to my beliefs on the subject, actually...  Mythsaje   May-18-06 01:42 AM   #213 
     - Religion is...  MrWiggles   May-18-06 05:18 PM   #343 
  - You're not respecting his beliefs, you're mocking them.  pnwmom   May-17-06 08:11 PM   #53 
  - Not at all.  Bornaginhooligan   May-17-06 08:12 PM   #57 
  - You're comparing them to the children you know who  pnwmom   May-17-06 08:28 PM   #76 
  - I'm also comparing them to people who believe in sasquatch.  Bornaginhooligan   May-17-06 08:30 PM   #84 
     - Yeah, right.  pnwmom   May-17-06 08:36 PM   #95 
     - Now who's mocking?  Bornaginhooligan   May-17-06 08:38 PM   #99 
        - No, I was merely reflecting back to you the tone of  pnwmom   May-17-06 08:41 PM   #104 
           - What tone?  Bornaginhooligan   May-17-06 08:42 PM   #106 
              - The Tone?  Southpawkicker   May-23-06 09:51 PM   #415 
     - Believers have a double standard.  ThomCat   May-18-06 07:37 AM   #263 
        - I Don't Ask For Admiration, Just Don't Mock My Beliefs  Southpawkicker   May-20-06 07:34 PM   #397 
  - I hope not...  Dorian Gray   May-21-06 12:21 AM   #399 
  - You love flame-type topics....otherwise you wouldn't be here.  Proud_Democratt   May-17-06 09:37 PM   #151 
  - How Can You Say I Don't Respect Your Beliefs?  Southpawkicker   May-17-06 09:17 PM   #133 
  - Except that the FACT that religious belief  ThomCat   May-18-06 07:38 AM   #264 
  - Now which side is using no facts to back up somthing?  Dragonbreathp9d   May-18-06 10:20 AM   #281 
  - No fact on my side?  ThomCat   May-18-06 10:26 AM   #282 
     - I already said there wasnt proof of, but there also is no proof against  Dragonbreathp9d   May-18-06 01:34 PM   #304 
        - Failure to find proof Of is proof Against.  ThomCat   May-18-06 01:38 PM   #305 
           - You were right when you said "proving a negative is impossible"  pnwmom   May-18-06 09:51 PM   #364 
           - By your logic  ThomCat   May-19-06 10:45 AM   #381 
              - It isn't "my" logic. It's standard, principle-based logic. The kind  pnwmom   May-19-06 03:07 PM   #385 
                 - No, your logic is not taught in any deductive logic course.  ThomCat   May-19-06 03:17 PM   #387 
           - That's not logic at all.  Donald Ian Rankin   May-23-06 07:53 AM   #412 
           - I disagree with that logic  cain_7777   Jun-22-06 10:31 AM   #427 
              - Why I'm Not a Christian is an excellent compilation  varkam   Jun-22-06 04:48 PM   #429 
  - It Isn't Like Fairy or Faery Tales  Southpawkicker   May-18-06 04:55 PM   #336 
  - Yes you did  Juniperx   May-18-06 08:10 AM   #269 
  - OKAY, all you ATHEISTS!!! Why are you wasting time here?  pnwmom   May-18-06 03:16 AM   #241 
  - All you atheists?  Juniperx   May-18-06 08:11 AM   #270 
  - Would you please, please, please take a look  pnwmom   May-18-06 09:30 PM   #359 
  - Wasting time?  WritingIsMyReligion   May-18-06 03:37 PM   #321 
  - Sorry about the subject line, everybody misunderstood.  pnwmom   May-18-06 09:31 PM   #360 
  - You were criticizing someone's tone yesterday. Have you  Proud_Democratt   May-18-06 05:34 PM   #346 
     - I meant this as a complete joke. If you look at the website  pnwmom   May-18-06 09:29 PM   #358 
        - okay...  Proud_Democratt   May-18-06 09:36 PM   #362 
           - Proud Democrat, thanks for responding.  pnwmom   May-18-06 09:48 PM   #363 
           - Use the yellow envelope next to the username in the comment  Proud_Democratt   May-18-06 10:01 PM   #365 
           - I figured out the answer to my question, finally. Never mind.  pnwmom   May-18-06 10:04 PM   #366 
  - I've been an agnostic here for years  wryter2000   May-18-06 10:41 AM   #285 
  - Oh, I have.  trotsky   May-19-06 07:37 AM   #378 
  - Perhaps "myth" might  TallahasseeGrannie   May-18-06 12:09 PM   #292 
  - TG, I agree heartily  nemo137   May-19-06 01:39 AM   #375 
  - Precisely how are God and Santa Claus equivalent?  rug   May-18-06 11:24 PM   #373 
  - I think some people just can't leave well enough alone.  missb   May-17-06 07:32 PM   #2 
  - Sometimes, it seems that just disagreeing with a religious person  zanne   May-17-06 07:35 PM   #9 
  - I don't think that was the OP's point at all.  missb   May-17-06 07:36 PM   #13 
  - There's one in every crowd  ayeshahaqqiqa   May-17-06 08:04 PM   #43 
  - They don't mind telling you how they feel  cushla_machree   May-17-06 08:07 PM   #50 
  - Neurological disorder?  TallahasseeGrannie   May-18-06 12:39 PM   #295 
     - More like 30 something percent.lol n/t  Finder   May-18-06 01:15 PM   #302 
     - Oh. I thought you meant all Christians  TallahasseeGrannie   May-18-06 02:27 PM   #313 
     - Not a neurological disorder but a lack of education  cain_7777   Jun-22-06 11:08 AM   #428 
        - So You Say  Southpawkicker   Jun-23-06 08:29 PM   #434 
  - No, it's the mockery that crosses the line, not simply  pnwmom   May-17-06 08:14 PM   #59 
  - You despise mockery?...I despise scriptural quotations blasted  Proud_Democratt   May-17-06 09:43 PM   # 
  - Where?  TallahasseeGrannie   May-18-06 12:42 PM   #296 
     - I can't remember what topic...but I can tell you two people.  Proud_Democratt   May-18-06 05:13 PM   #340 
     - Wheaton Illinois  riderinthestorm   May-18-06 10:51 PM   #370 
        - Get the heck out of there  TallahasseeGrannie   May-23-06 01:42 PM   #414 
  - But believers take simple disagreement as an insult.  ThomCat   May-18-06 01:46 PM   #306 
     - Yes, a lot of them do,  raccoon   Jun-20-06 01:35 PM   #421 
  - Maybe we all need to just be more specific  TallahasseeGrannie   May-18-06 12:28 PM   #293 
  - Well I Wouldn't Have Posted It If I Didn't Feel That There Is  Southpawkicker   May-17-06 09:22 PM   #137 
  - Ditto.  undeterred   May-17-06 07:33 PM   #3 
  - Whaever floats your boat. I was raised a Christian and became  karlrschneider   May-17-06 07:33 PM   #5 
  - Works for me, too.  pnwmom   May-17-06 08:15 PM   #60 
     - I also think that the Golden Rule  frogbison   May-17-06 08:51 PM   #115 
     - I confess I did slightly paraphrase the usual version to more accurately  karlrschneider   May-17-06 08:58 PM   #123 
        - In New Jersey where I grew up  TallahasseeGrannie   May-18-06 12:44 PM   #298 
  - You should be joyous, imho  Juniperx   May-17-06 07:34 PM   #7 
  - and she lives with a rock solid atheist  Howardx   May-17-06 08:58 PM   #122 
  - I'm Not Afraid Of Arguments  Southpawkicker   May-17-06 09:25 PM   #138 
     - I made a valid point and you say never mind?  Juniperx   May-18-06 08:19 AM   #271 
     - Blow It Out Your Peacepipe  Southpawkicker   Jun-23-06 08:33 PM   #435 
     - How can you insult someone for being rational?  Finder   May-18-06 01:21 PM   #303 
  - Honey, you should see what Bushco is doing to the country!  valerief   May-17-06 07:35 PM   #10 
  - I Know What Bushco Is Doing "Honey"  Southpawkicker   Jun-23-06 09:02 PM   #444 
  - If the label doesn't fit ..  votesomemore   May-17-06 07:35 PM   #11 
  - You're free to believe whatever you want.  bigjohn16   May-17-06 07:36 PM   #12 
  - Hear Hear Southpaw! I Think Some Take The Religion Bashing Wayyyy Too Far  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   May-17-06 07:38 PM   #15 
  - why? why do you care. someone doesnt believe,  seabeyond   May-17-06 07:39 PM   #18 
  - Great post!  Juniperx   May-17-06 07:48 PM   #29 
  - God gave us free will.  seabeyond   May-17-06 07:54 PM   #34 
     - Exactly! Thank you!  Juniperx   May-17-06 08:02 PM   #42 
        - He doesn't hate our sins.  votesomemore   May-17-06 08:37 PM   #97 
        - Is that okay? .... damn straight it is ok  seabeyond   May-17-06 08:51 PM   #116 
        - Makes sense to me  Juniperx   May-18-06 08:22 AM   #272 
        - who the heck are we  seabeyond   May-17-06 08:45 PM   #111 
  - So I Don't Have Any Problem With Someone Saying  Southpawkicker   May-17-06 09:27 PM   #139 
  - A most excellent post. Thankyou.  Random_Australian   May-18-06 05:07 AM   #247 
  - Wisdom in your words  TallahasseeGrannie   May-18-06 12:52 PM   #300 
  - It Is Demeaning, It Implies That Belief In God Is Childish  Southpawkicker   Jun-23-06 09:03 PM   #445 
  - Wow  LiberalVoice   Jun-26-06 12:42 AM   #448 
  - I live by the motto....  Rude Horner   May-17-06 07:40 PM   #19 
  - The Falwell's of the world hold themselves above God  Juniperx   May-18-06 08:28 AM   #273 
  - I agree, but maybe not for the reason you think  Zensea   May-17-06 07:40 PM   #21 
  - Wow.  NC_Nurse   May-17-06 07:55 PM   #36 
  - I'm intrigued as well..  votesomemore   May-17-06 08:48 PM   #113 
  - Whoa.  TallahasseeGrannie   May-18-06 12:56 PM   #301 
  - Peace to you, too  StellaBlue   May-17-06 07:41 PM   #22 
  - I don't get that "burden of proof" thing  JerseygirlCT   May-17-06 07:52 PM   #33 
  - I can see your point, yes  StellaBlue   May-17-06 08:21 PM   #67 
     - I heartily agree that there's an unfortunate tendency to try  JerseygirlCT   May-17-06 08:28 PM   #78 
        - I can go along with that  StellaBlue   May-17-06 08:31 PM   #86 
        - I can understand that, absolutely!  JerseygirlCT   May-17-06 08:34 PM   #93 
        - I'm sorry, aren't you the one who calls us Fundie atheists?  Evoman   May-18-06 04:41 PM   #332 
           - To be more accurate,  JerseygirlCT   May-18-06 08:48 PM   #355 
        - Me too..  votesomemore   May-17-06 08:51 PM   #117 
        - How true  TallahasseeGrannie   May-18-06 01:56 PM   #307 
  - This is the DU. Anti * statements have a place here.  pnwmom   May-17-06 08:19 PM   #66 
  - So? I don't come here to be preached to or scolded by whiners  beam me up scottie   May-17-06 08:22 PM   #70 
  - The point is we're all here as Democrats or progressives,  pnwmom   May-17-06 08:26 PM   #74 
  - Most of us do work together.  beam me up scottie   May-17-06 08:29 PM   #81 
     - Your ears aren't working. The message is: why can't  pnwmom   May-17-06 08:33 PM   #90 
        - Your eyes aren't working.  beam me up scottie   May-17-06 08:37 PM   #96 
        - But some of us are being ridiculed because we believe  Juniperx   May-18-06 08:34 AM   #274 
           - In A More "Christian Manner"?  Southpawkicker   Jun-23-06 09:05 PM   #446 
  - WOOOO HOOOOOO  TallahasseeGrannie   May-18-06 12:04 PM   #290 
  - My analogy stands. n/t  StellaBlue   May-17-06 08:27 PM   #75 
  - I Have No Burden Of Proof  Southpawkicker   May-17-06 09:29 PM   #143 
  - I'll field this one: there's no obligation to respect your beliefs.  Zhade   May-17-06 10:52 PM   #192 
  - I Have No Burden Of Proof  Southpawkicker   Jun-23-06 08:37 PM   #436 
  - If that's what makes you feel good, by all means, go to it.  MrSlayer   May-17-06 07:42 PM   #24 
  - Is your faith so weak  DearAbby   May-17-06 07:44 PM   #25 
  - Thanks, I agree. nt  JerseygirlCT   May-17-06 07:46 PM   #26 
  - I always tell my kids to ignore those who mock them.  MelliMel   May-17-06 07:46 PM   #27 
  - Good for you, MelliMel!  Juniperx   May-18-06 08:39 AM   #275 
  - Santa Brings Me Presents...  WillyT   May-17-06 07:49 PM   #31 
  - What does it matter, to Christians, my Gods are fairy tales as well...  Solon   May-17-06 07:50 PM   #32 
  - A big hello and a hug from Newton County Arkansas!  ayeshahaqqiqa   May-17-06 07:55 PM   #35 
  - What does Religion  votesomemore   May-17-06 08:57 PM   #121 
  - Thank You Newton County  Southpawkicker   May-17-06 09:30 PM   #144 
  - Fine. Easter Bunny it is.  beam me up scottie   May-17-06 07:56 PM   #38 
  - You know what I don't get...  Solon   May-17-06 08:05 PM   #47 
  - You've nailed it.  beam me up scottie   May-17-06 08:15 PM   #61 
  - That's the thing...  Solon   May-17-06 08:24 PM   #72 
     - "Who are you to question why your god made me an atheist?"  beam me up scottie   May-17-06 08:33 PM   #91 
        - LOL...  Solon   May-17-06 08:46 PM   #112 
        - You know  TallahasseeGrannie   May-18-06 02:04 PM   #309 
  - Fairy Tales Are Make Believe Stories  Southpawkicker   May-17-06 09:32 PM   #148 
  - And I happen to worship Ogmios and Brigit...  Solon   May-17-06 09:38 PM   #154 
     - I Don't Go Around Bashing Your Beliefs  Southpawkicker   May-17-06 09:48 PM   #165 
        - I didn't bash yours either...  Solon   May-17-06 09:53 PM   #170 
           - My Beliefs Are NOT Fairy Tales  Southpawkicker   May-17-06 09:57 PM   #172 
              - And again you tell another member to shut up. Who do you think you are?  beam me up scottie   May-17-06 10:01 PM   #174 
              - You know what?  Solon   May-17-06 10:04 PM   #177 
              - That's what always happens in these threads.  beam me up scottie   May-17-06 10:11 PM   #181 
              - You know what's really funny...  Solon   May-17-06 10:27 PM   #186 
                 - Some people are incapable of understanding what it's like to be  beam me up scottie   May-17-06 10:34 PM   #189 
                    - Hey, that reminds me...  Solon   May-17-06 10:44 PM   #191 
                    - I had no idea that was her message!  beam me up scottie   May-17-06 10:55 PM   #193 
                       - What, the fact that the bunny, eggs, and time of year...  Solon   May-17-06 10:58 PM   #194 
                    - You were BAD in school  TallahasseeGrannie   May-18-06 02:06 PM   #310 
              - Solon  Southpawkicker   May-18-06 04:57 PM   #337 
                 - Its cool...  Solon   May-18-06 07:09 PM   #348 
                    - I May Be Somewhat Of A Polytheist  Southpawkicker   May-18-06 08:54 PM   #356 
              - Since You Seem To Think You Speak For DU Atheists  Southpawkicker   May-18-06 04:52 PM   #334 
              - Again you prove so many points made here  Juniperx   May-18-06 08:44 AM   #276 
              - FTFU?  Southpawkicker   May-18-06 04:53 PM   #335 
                 - That's all you got, eh? Snappy comeback... a typo  Juniperx   May-19-06 01:42 PM   #384 
                    - Use Spell Check If You Can't Self Edit nt  Southpawkicker   Jun-23-06 08:38 PM   #437 
              - Maybe to you they aren't, but to others they are.  WritingIsMyReligion   May-22-06 03:29 PM   #405 
  - I think that perhaps it is the childlike  TallahasseeGrannie   May-18-06 02:04 PM   #308 
     - It would be a refreshing thing to admit...  Solon   May-18-06 03:43 PM   #322 
        - Solon, I think you and TG are wise souls  riderinthestorm   May-18-06 11:00 PM   #371 
  - You're misusing the words "fairy tale".  Donald Ian Rankin   May-23-06 07:30 AM   #411 
  - Looks like you need some defending Southpawkicker.  lonestarnot   May-17-06 07:58 PM   #39 
  - I haven't seen that here, but isn't this subject supposed to be discussed  radio4progressives   May-17-06 07:59 PM   #40 
  - Why do you do that, though?  JerseygirlCT   May-17-06 08:30 PM   #83 
  - ****Waaaah**** They insulted my beliefs!  Tom Yossarian Joad   May-17-06 08:04 PM   #44 
  - It's not a matter of insulting beliefs  ayeshahaqqiqa   May-17-06 08:15 PM   #62 
  - Good point. I've wondered about that, too.  pnwmom   May-17-06 08:21 PM   #68 
  - That May Be True  Southpawkicker   May-17-06 09:34 PM   #149 
     - I agree with this but out of curiosity do you think a Pagen Du'er  saracat   May-18-06 02:42 AM   #235 
  - "I know there will be someone who will say he didn't exist"  Zhade   May-17-06 08:05 PM   #46 
  - "you believe an unsupported myth"  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   May-17-06 08:12 PM   #56 
     - Not believing in the supernatural is an unsupported myth?  beam me up scottie   May-17-06 08:19 PM   #65 
     - Absolutely It Is. Every Bit As Much As The Alternative.  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   May-17-06 08:24 PM   #73 
        - Well put, OperationMindCrime.  pnwmom   May-17-06 08:34 PM   #94 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   May-17-06 08:40 PM   #102 
           - He didn't say he believes in creationism.  pnwmom   May-17-06 08:44 PM   #108 
              - He compared a scientific theory to "believing otherwise".  beam me up scottie   May-17-06 08:57 PM   #120 
              - We can't even say whether the big bang NEEDED cause.  trotsky   May-17-06 09:31 PM   #145 
                 - Hence Why It Is Theory.  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   May-17-06 09:36 PM   #150 
                    - Your point is invisible and possibly non-existent.  beam me up scottie   May-17-06 09:40 PM   #156 
                    - Yet Science Doesn't Say A Thing About Where The Matter For The Big Bang  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   May-17-06 09:54 PM   #171 
                       - Wow, you mean science doesn't make up stories???  beam me up scottie   May-17-06 10:04 PM   #178 
                       - Science can't disprove religion any more than  pnwmom   May-17-06 11:00 PM   #195 
                          - Oh brother.  beam me up scottie   May-17-06 11:15 PM   #197 
                          - You don't make the argument, Scottie, but plenty of others  pnwmom   May-18-06 02:18 AM   #220 
                             - Actually, just me. (pretty much)  Random_Australian   May-18-06 02:30 AM   #229 
                          - Yep...Science operates in the sphere of REALITY  Evoman   May-18-06 12:35 AM   #210 
                          - Everyday reality, conventional reality, socially-constructed  pnwmom   May-18-06 02:19 AM   #221 
                             - What is ultimate reality?  Evoman   May-18-06 02:26 AM   #224 
                             - Some people call it  pnwmom   May-18-06 02:27 AM   #227 
                                - Anything real in ultimate reality?  Random_Australian   May-18-06 02:35 AM   #232 
                                - Your right....science can't study realities that don't really seem  Evoman   May-18-06 02:36 AM   #233 
                                   - I've never said I KNOW. I just haven't ruled the possibility out.  pnwmom   May-18-06 03:05 AM   #237 
                                   - But you have ruled out the possibility Santa is real?  Evoman   May-18-06 03:14 AM   #240 
                                   - Because of lots of reasons that obviously don't apply to you.  pnwmom   May-18-06 03:30 AM   #242 
                                   - Perfect  Evoman   May-18-06 03:44 AM   #243 
                                   - I can totally imagine being in your world. I have spent years  pnwmom   May-18-06 03:57 AM   #244 
                             - Other way around. Socially constructed reality has been and gone.  Random_Australian   May-18-06 02:32 AM   #230 
                                - Nah. Not tonight. I'm saving it for my major best-seller.  pnwmom   May-18-06 03:07 AM   #238 
                          - "religion can disprove science" Lets hear this proof then!  Random_Australian   May-18-06 01:45 AM   #214 
                             - I just said that it CANNOT. Not that it can.  pnwmom   May-18-06 02:20 AM   #222 
                                - Damn, I misread! Damn! Damn! I was looking forward to that! Ok then,  Random_Australian   May-18-06 02:23 AM   #223 
                                   - Religion is beside the point when you're doing scientific  pnwmom   May-18-06 02:26 AM   #225 
                                   - Yeah? I put statistical in my definition for that very reason. In other  Random_Australian   May-18-06 02:35 AM   #231 
                                      - Huh? I'm too tired to have one of those "depends on what the  pnwmom   May-18-06 03:10 AM   #239 
                                      - Ok then, peace for now, talk to you later when less tired.  Random_Australian   May-18-06 04:57 AM   #245 
                                   - You always mis-read things man  Evoman   May-18-06 02:27 AM   #226 
                                      - yeah, really  pnwmom   May-18-06 02:29 AM   #228 
                                      - Because of the Flourine we use as mind control.  Random_Australian   May-18-06 02:37 AM   #234 
                                         - Yes, the fluorine  Evoman   May-18-06 02:43 AM   #236 
                       - On the nose...  Kierkegaard   May-18-06 07:06 AM   #258 
                    - Really?  trotsky   May-18-06 07:16 AM   #260 
                    - You have no idea  TallahasseeGrannie   May-18-06 02:12 PM   #311 
                    - gravity is theory  TransitJohn   May-18-06 10:29 AM   #283 
        - Sorry, there is no "faith" required to not believe in any fairy tale.  beam me up scottie   May-17-06 08:39 PM   #100 
        - Are You For Real?  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   May-17-06 08:44 PM   #109 
           - Nice misuse of the dictionary but I think I'll ignore the xian definition.  beam me up scottie   May-17-06 08:53 PM   #118 
           - LMFAO!!!!!!!!!! Yeah, How DARE I Post The FACTUAL Definition  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   May-17-06 09:00 PM   #125 
              - Dictionaries also list immorality as a definition  GreenJ   May-17-06 09:07 PM   #126 
              - Yes, but  Donald Ian Rankin   May-23-06 07:19 AM   #410 
              - Wow, you guys just love to cherry pick whatever info you want to believe.  beam me up scottie   May-17-06 09:10 PM   #128 
              - LMAO! This Is Killing Me! You Still Prove My Point Correct LOL  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   May-17-06 09:27 PM   #140 
                 - I don't think scratching your head will help-might I suggest an education?  beam me up scottie   May-17-06 09:32 PM   #147 
                 - LOL. Let It Go. The Semantics Are Tiring. Goodnight And God Bless.  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   May-17-06 09:37 PM   #153 
                    - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   May-17-06 09:43 PM   #160 
                    - The Problem:  beam me up scottie   May-17-06 09:49 PM   #167 
                    - Wow  LiberalVoice   Jun-26-06 02:32 AM   #451 
                 - More info from religioustolerance.org  beam me up scottie   May-17-06 09:37 PM   #152 
                 - They are not the same thing. Are you really not seeing that?  Zhade   May-17-06 11:15 PM   #196 
                 - The fact that multiple definitions exist totally escapes you, doesn't it?  beam me up scottie   May-17-06 11:21 PM   #199 
                    - While it's true that multiple definitions exist,  Donald Ian Rankin   May-23-06 07:15 AM   #409 
              - More  beam me up scottie   May-17-06 09:12 PM   #129 
              - And still more...  beam me up scottie   May-17-06 09:15 PM   #132 
              - more enlightenment:  beam me up scottie   May-17-06 09:22 PM   #136 
           - Gee look another definition, whodda thunk it  GreenJ   May-17-06 09:13 PM   #130 
              - Funny...he doesn't seem to be laughing anymore.  beam me up scottie   May-17-06 09:27 PM   #141 
        - Wrong, OMC. Theories are supported by evidence. In fact science  Random_Australian   May-18-06 01:39 AM   #212 
        - Ummmm  LiberalVoice   Jun-26-06 01:03 AM   #449 
     - Tell me what I believe.  Zhade   May-17-06 10:26 PM   #185 
  - I think many of us are tired and beat of Christianity  Sarah Ibarruri   May-17-06 08:06 PM   #48 
  - "Perhaps If The Non Republican Christians Had Spoken Up"  Southpawkicker   May-17-06 09:39 PM   #155 
     - Sojourner Magazine is very left-wing and it's strongly Christian  Sarah Ibarruri   May-18-06 08:31 PM   #354 
  - I don't see it as mocking at all  Canuckistanian   May-17-06 08:08 PM   #51 
  - To Me, Santa Claus Is Insulting (The Analogy)  Southpawkicker   May-17-06 09:40 PM   #157 
  - My point was that it's not aimed at you  Canuckistanian   May-18-06 01:47 AM   #216 
  - Exactly  Warren Stupidity   May-18-06 06:08 AM   #252 
  - Sure, it's just used by atheists to describe their own feelings.  Inland   May-18-06 06:33 AM   #255 
     - The Santa Claus story is a coherent world-view.  Random_Australian   May-18-06 06:58 AM   #256 
        - You could say it's made up.  Inland   May-18-06 07:27 AM   #261 
           - Look, downthread I explain why it does not call it simpleminded or  Random_Australian   May-18-06 07:39 AM   #265 
  - /  not_nameless   May-17-06 08:08 PM   #52 
  - God, Santa... both have the exact same objective evidence  TechBear_Seattle   May-17-06 08:11 PM   #55 
  - Ah, but they all do  ayeshahaqqiqa   May-17-06 08:19 PM   #64 
     - I always try to be respectful, although I occasionally miss the mark  TechBear_Seattle   May-17-06 09:09 PM   #127 
  - We're supposed to prioritize the fairy tales, I guess.  Oregonian   May-17-06 08:13 PM   #58 
  - I know for a fact that many here do  ayeshahaqqiqa   May-17-06 08:22 PM   #69 
  - Exactly. We all have the same major objective.  pnwmom   May-17-06 08:39 PM   #101 
  - well said  Howardx   May-17-06 08:30 PM   #85 
  - Ha Ha  Southpawkicker   May-17-06 09:41 PM   #158 
  - I don't believe others should be forced to put your faith on a pedestal  Liberal Veteran   May-17-06 08:19 PM   #63 
  - I took the OP another way  ayeshahaqqiqa   May-17-06 08:24 PM   #71 
     - To a true atheist, it is distinction without a difference.  Liberal Veteran   May-17-06 08:37 PM   #98 
        - which is fine  ayeshahaqqiqa   May-17-06 08:41 PM   #105 
        - I agree - perhaps it is just whistling past the graveyard -fear they might  papau   May-17-06 09:18 PM   #134 
           - I thought you said you weren't posting in here anymore, papau.  beam me up scottie   May-17-06 09:52 PM   #169 
              - Gee, do the mods know they're the puppet of atheists?  Zhade   May-17-06 11:40 PM   #203 
                 - What?  beam me up scottie   May-17-06 11:47 PM   #205 
                 - That which can not be changed - BMUS and Zhade's posting manners  papau   May-18-06 05:44 AM   #251 
        - Fine  Southpawkicker   Jun-23-06 09:07 PM   #447 
           - You'd be wrong...But go ahead.  LiberalVoice   Jun-26-06 02:53 AM   #452 
  - I usually compare it to the faith of the ancient Greeks in Zeus instead.  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   May-17-06 08:28 PM   #79 
  - That's a good point.  bloom   May-24-06 08:28 PM   #416 
  - im real tired of xtians whining  Howardx   May-17-06 08:29 PM   #80 
  - Don't wear your faith on your sleeve.  Ariana Celeste   May-17-06 08:30 PM   #82 
  - Yep.  Oregonian   May-17-06 08:31 PM   #87 
     - Exactly.  Ariana Celeste   May-17-06 08:58 PM   #124 
  - So... how bout that AL GORE?!?!?!?!  StellaBlue   May-17-06 08:32 PM   #88 
  - I love him.  TallahasseeGrannie   May-18-06 02:20 PM   #312 
  - your experiences don't actually sound different tho  pitohui   May-17-06 08:32 PM   #89 
  - Ahhhhhhhhh, siddown and shaddup  beam me up scottie   May-17-06 08:48 PM   #114 
  - Wow  Southpawkicker   May-17-06 10:08 PM   #180 
  - Back when I was in Sunday School  GoneOffShore   May-17-06 08:34 PM   #92 
  - Me too, I got thrown out of a lot of Sunday School classes, just asked  texanwitch   May-17-06 08:41 PM   #103 
  - Your story reminds me  Pastiche423   May-17-06 09:15 PM   #131 
  - I'm Really Tired Of People Comparing Faith In Zeus To Santa Claus...  Finder   May-17-06 08:43 PM   #107 
  - suck it up  Skittles   May-17-06 08:44 PM   #110 
  - I Don't Have To Suck It Up  Southpawkicker   May-17-06 09:42 PM   #159 
     - You were the one who demanded that other DUers stop opining about faith.  beam me up scottie   May-17-06 09:46 PM   #163 
        - I'm Not The One That Posted "Suck It Up" First Scottie  Southpawkicker   May-17-06 09:49 PM   #166 
           - No, you demanded we shut up.  beam me up scottie   May-17-06 09:57 PM   #173 
              - I Never Said Shut Up  Southpawkicker   May-17-06 10:02 PM   #175 
                 - "don't compare my faith to something like Santa Claus"  beam me up scottie   May-17-06 10:07 PM   #179 
                    - You Believe What You Believe  Southpawkicker   May-17-06 10:24 PM   #184 
                       - Nice. First you make up a straw man and use it to tell us to shut up.  beam me up scottie   May-17-06 10:38 PM   #190 
                          - If I Were To Say Shut Up  Southpawkicker   May-18-06 04:50 PM   #333 
                             - It's not an insult  riderinthestorm   May-18-06 11:09 PM   #372 
                                - Why Do You Have To Refer To It As Anything?  Southpawkicker   May-19-06 01:13 PM   #383 
                                   - Because I get asked  riderinthestorm   May-19-06 05:45 PM   #389 
                                      - I Am Asking To Not Have My Beliefs Mocked  Southpawkicker   May-19-06 11:03 PM   #391 
                                         - "don't make fun of that."  Zhade   May-20-06 01:33 PM   #393 
  - It's just an analagy as to what the atheist position is. Not an attack.  Random_Australian   May-17-06 08:55 PM   #119 
  - What pretty much destroys your plea for respect...  trotsky   May-17-06 09:29 PM   #142 
  - I Don't Attack Scientology  Southpawkicker   May-17-06 09:44 PM   #161 
     - "...although it seems pretty silly."  Zhade   May-17-06 11:43 PM   #204 
     - What's the best way to get people to go out of their way to piss you off?  beam me up scottie   May-17-06 11:51 PM   #206 
     - Oh Scottie  Southpawkicker   May-18-06 05:14 PM   #341 
     - I Don't See Scientology In The Same Vein As Christianity  Southpawkicker   May-18-06 04:59 PM   #338 
        - "Christianity has survived 2000 years of history" ?  greyl   May-22-06 03:07 PM   #404 
        - Ummm, This Was In Regard To Scientology  Southpawkicker   Jun-23-06 08:41 PM   #438 
           - Please don't put words in my mouth.  greyl   Jun-26-06 01:46 AM   #450 
        - Leagues?  LiberalVoice   Jun-26-06 03:06 AM   #453 
     - So...Scientology is silly?  ArbustoBuster   May-18-06 01:59 AM   #219 
  - I'm really tired of seeing the same old posters moan and groan  Proud_Democratt   May-17-06 09:31 PM   #146 
  - If You Are Talking To Me  Southpawkicker   May-17-06 09:45 PM   #162 
     - I wasn't thinking of you, nor any cryptics used. I won't name  Proud_Democratt   May-17-06 09:49 PM   #168 
  - I'm really tired of Christian posters...quoting scriptures at me  Proud_Democratt   May-17-06 09:47 PM   #164 
  - I Haven't Seen That, But I Agree With You  Southpawkicker   May-17-06 10:04 PM   #176 
     - I noticed that there are some that only attend "flamefests"..  Proud_Democratt   May-17-06 10:13 PM   #182 
        - We can post where and when we want......but please don't cry  Proud_Democratt   May-17-06 10:16 PM   #183 
  - Do you read?  votesomemore   May-17-06 10:31 PM   #187 
  - Haven't some countries attempted to force that?  MelliMel   May-17-06 11:16 PM   #198 
     - Force what?  beam me up scottie   May-17-06 11:24 PM   #200 
        - No.  MelliMel   May-17-06 11:27 PM   #201 
           - That's what you think the author is doing?  beam me up scottie   May-17-06 11:33 PM   #202 
              - I read the interview linked.  MelliMel   May-18-06 12:29 AM   #209 
                 - You mean like James Dobson  BuffyTheFundieSlayer   May-18-06 08:56 AM   #278 
                    - Yes and anti-religion despots too like Stalin  MelliMel   May-18-06 03:23 PM   #319 
                       - Forbidding religion in communist nations had nothing to do with  BuffyTheFundieSlayer   May-18-06 10:40 PM   #369 
                          - Or, It Could Have Been The Cause Of Those Regimes  Southpawkicker   Jun-23-06 08:46 PM   #439 
  - If you're secure in your belief in God,  catbert836   May-17-06 10:31 PM   #188 
  - Who then?  BuffyTheFundieSlayer   May-17-06 11:55 PM   #207 
  - Um...but thats how I feel  Evoman   May-18-06 12:28 AM   #208 
  - Poor Christian......your faith is so tenuous.  iconoclastNYC   May-18-06 01:22 AM   #211 
  - Your Sentiments Are So Kind  Southpawkicker   Jun-23-06 08:48 PM   #440 
  - I just don't understand why it matters to either side  eridani   May-18-06 01:47 AM   #215 
  - No offense meant, but this was my rant on the subject...  Mythsaje   May-18-06 01:52 AM   #217 
  - Nice rant! n/t  Random_Australian   May-18-06 05:09 AM   #248 
  - What a beautiful rant!  Ariana Celeste   May-18-06 04:26 PM   #328 
  - Ditto, ditto, and ditto!  LiberalVoice   Jun-26-06 03:16 AM   #454 
  - Recommended! n/t  Stand and Fight   May-18-06 01:55 AM   #218 
  - It is an odd comparison, because ther's a lot more evidence  electropop   May-18-06 05:20 AM   #249 
  - After all, one watches your life, judges you, and rewards you  muriel_volestrangler   May-18-06 05:31 AM   #250 
  - Indeed Santa Claus is clearly a Deity.  Warren Stupidity   May-18-06 06:17 AM   #253 
  - Sure. Now tell us what Santa Clauses's standards are.  Inland   May-18-06 03:07 PM   #317 
     - I don't think you understand the meaning of 'compare'  muriel_volestrangler   May-18-06 06:17 PM   #347 
        - I most certainly do. And "insult" too. It can be both.  Inland   May-18-06 07:18 PM   #349 
           - I'm glad to have helped you believe you're being insulted  muriel_volestrangler   May-18-06 07:33 PM   #350 
              - And finally, the dismissive capper...  Inland   May-18-06 07:52 PM   #352 
                 - Like I said, only two properties were carried, therefore religion is not  Random_Australian   May-18-06 07:56 PM   #353 
  - It's meant to dismiss you as childish or simpleminded.  Inland   May-18-06 06:25 AM   #254 
  - Wow! You sound really angry. Did you not understand that it  Random_Australian   May-18-06 07:03 AM   #257 
     - Of course, "oh, you're just angry" is another form of dismissal.  Inland   May-18-06 07:15 AM   #259 
     - Not dismiss. When do I ever dismiss? It was framed so that it allowed  Random_Australian   May-18-06 07:29 AM   #262 
        - The validity or veracity of the analogy is irrelevant? Since when?  Inland   May-18-06 07:42 AM   #266 
           - Points? Anway, the reason the validity was irrelevant is that  Random_Australian   May-18-06 07:46 AM   #267 
           - What was being discussed was what was proper for discussion.  Inland   May-18-06 12:43 PM   #297 
              - The difference between false and veracious analagy then.  Random_Australian   May-18-06 07:35 PM   #351 
           - The original santa post was an explanation  endarkenment   May-18-06 08:01 AM   #268 
              - Of course....if it wasn't true, nobody would be insulted!!! Perfect!!  Inland   May-18-06 12:51 PM   #299 
                 - Perhaps I wasn't clear.  endarkenment   May-18-06 03:15 PM   #318 
                    - "You seem to be outraged...." is another form of dismissal.  Inland   May-18-06 03:34 PM   #320 
                       - "Yes, a person who is insulted by the insulting "  endarkenment   May-18-06 03:50 PM   #324 
                          - It's my conclusion. Yes, it is. Thanks for noticing.  Inland   May-18-06 03:55 PM   #325 
                             - I have not dismissed you.  endarkenment   May-18-06 04:04 PM   #326 
                                - Nobody minds you "noting" content. Any time you want to start is fine.  Inland   May-18-06 05:02 PM   #339 
                                   - I've asked others, and I'll ask you, what analogy would you prefer?  riderinthestorm   May-18-06 11:33 PM   #374 
                                      - Speaking of myths, tell me about this confrontation.  Inland   May-19-06 07:14 AM   #376 
                                         - Nope. I'm not really good at insults, bieng so mild-mannered myself,  Random_Australian   May-19-06 07:26 AM   #377 
                                         - I would say the obvious answer is obviously contrary to reality.  Inland   May-19-06 07:40 AM   #379 
                                            - You pretty much restated my point, it seems we agree after all.  Random_Australian   May-19-06 09:33 AM   #380 
                                         - One on one, a typical question will revolve around whether I feel a "void"  riderinthestorm   May-19-06 05:32 PM   #388 
                                            - Oh, believing in Santa fills a void?  Inland   May-20-06 10:12 AM   #392 
                                               - Y'know, I hate to be a stick-in-the-mud, but I will have to point out that  Random_Australian   May-23-06 06:27 AM   #407 
     - Yo, R_A!  catbert836   May-19-06 05:53 PM   #390 
  - I feel sorry for the Baby Jesus  suegeo   May-18-06 08:52 AM   #277 
  - The story of Santa and the story of Jesus...  mikelgb   May-18-06 10:01 AM   #279 
  - There is no proof,  Dragonbreathp9d   May-18-06 10:16 AM   #280 
  - How is one imaginary being different from another?  ThomCat   May-18-06 05:18 PM   #342 
  - I'm an agnostic  wryter2000   May-18-06 10:39 AM   #284 
  - I think it is pretty clear that theists/atheists each think the other  Strong Atheist   May-18-06 10:49 AM   #286 
  - I agree - indeed when one meets one that's obviously wrong, you  papau   May-18-06 12:08 PM   #291 
     - MOST of the time I try to avoid using the language the OP  Strong Atheist   May-18-06 12:36 PM   #294 
        - That is my recollection also - Cheers! :-)  papau   May-18-06 02:40 PM   #316 
  - Cast us out in the name of Jesus.  CarbonDate   May-18-06 11:03 AM   #287 
  - Do you find it odd that so many found God after drugs or alcohol issues?  progressivebydesign   May-18-06 11:13 AM   #288 
  - I've heard it said  Juniperx   May-18-06 02:31 PM   #314 
  - I know 3 who found God this way.  Ariana Celeste   May-18-06 04:30 PM   #329 
  - Trade offs like booze for Jesus are quite common.  Proud_Democratt   May-18-06 05:26 PM   #344 
  - Alcoholics, Drug Addicts, Addicts Of All Stripes  Southpawkicker   Jun-23-06 08:55 PM   #441 
  - Definition of Irony?  Goblinmonger   May-18-06 11:45 AM   #289 
  - Agreed  Juniperx   May-18-06 02:33 PM   #315 
  - Maybe Just Learning Manners Would Help n/t  Southpawkicker   Jun-23-06 08:56 PM   #442 
  - No shit, man.  Ariana Celeste   May-18-06 04:38 PM   #331 
  - Why do people become offended by having their beliefs called "myths"?  WritingIsMyReligion   May-18-06 03:45 PM   #323 
  - Paul...who wrote the book of Titus, described Jewish practices  Proud_Democratt   May-18-06 10:05 PM   #367 
  - The power of words  CarbonDate   May-20-06 01:48 PM   #394 
  - Think of the God = Santa posts as a test of your faith which faith demands  Czolgosz   May-18-06 04:14 PM   #327 
  - That's a fine approach when what you are worried about is  pnwmom   May-19-06 03:16 PM   #386 
  - Thank you!  godhatesrepublicans   May-18-06 04:33 PM   #330 
  - When I found out my parents lied to me about Santa,  Blue in Portland   May-18-06 05:32 PM   #345 
  - this shouldn't be so difficult.  ulysses   May-18-06 09:02 PM   #357 
  - Wow  TallahasseeGrannie   May-18-06 09:32 PM   #361 
  - Ever heard of "The Gospel as Comedy, Tragedy & Fairy Tale"?  checks-n-balances   May-18-06 10:27 PM   #368 
  - Buechner is a great read -but DU doesn't have serious religious discussion  papau   May-19-06 12:24 PM   #382 
  - 375 posts I don't have time to read, but I bet...  TreasonousBastard   May-20-06 03:00 PM   #395 
  - Just for you:  Strong Atheist   May-20-06 10:18 PM   #398 
  - Touche! Now...  TreasonousBastard   May-21-06 08:44 PM   #402 
     - Dang! Just when I thought I had another enemy (from another thread  Strong Atheist   May-22-06 02:17 PM   #403 
  - Ya Pretty Much Got It! n/t  Southpawkicker   May-21-06 06:33 PM   #401 
  - Sasquatch?  Southpawkicker   May-20-06 07:33 PM   #396 
  - K & R  Southpawkicker   May-21-06 11:33 AM   #400 
  - Does God know when you're sleeping?  IMModerate   May-22-06 05:05 PM   #406 
  - On further thought:  Strong Atheist   May-23-06 08:46 AM   #413 
  - Having Spent Time As A Religious Minority  Southpawkicker   Jun-12-06 08:01 PM   #417 
     - God and Santa are still debating  neebob   Jun-19-06 11:41 PM   #419 
  - I can see where you're coming from.  raccoon   Jun-20-06 09:11 AM   #420 
  - How about the Easter Bunny, or Tooth Fairy?  cain_7777   Jun-20-06 05:03 PM   #422 
  - I'm Laughing At You  Southpawkicker   Jun-20-06 08:52 PM   #423 
     - We can all laugh together  cain_7777   Jun-21-06 05:54 PM   #424 
        - Naw, Your Jokes Are More Childish  Southpawkicker   Jun-21-06 09:42 PM   #425 
           - Well I'm rubber and you're glue....  varkam   Jun-22-06 04:51 PM   #430 
              - Whatever I Say Bounces Off Me And  Southpawkicker   Jun-22-06 06:43 PM   #431 
                 - Whatever you say...  varkam   Jun-22-06 08:12 PM   #432 
                    - Yes, I'm Dried Up Rubber Cement (glue)  Southpawkicker   Jun-22-06 09:10 PM   #433 
  - Just tell 'em ...  Pigwidgeon   Jun-22-06 07:12 AM   #426 
     - No, Not Britney's Ass  Southpawkicker   Jun-23-06 08:59 PM   #443 
 

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