TallahasseeGrannie
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Thu May-18-06 09:24 AM
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| 71. I agree with you 100% |
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And if I thought that we actually COULD eliminate organized religion I'd climb on board. I can have my faith without the fellowship. But that would entail things like outlawing assemblies, religious li terature, etc., and I can't go there. But if you gave me a magic wand, I'd have some real thinking to do.
I wonder...if we went back in a time machine and waved the magic wand and eliminated all organized religion, where would we be? Better or worse? What institutions would no longer exist? What gene pools would have survived? One of those things we'll never know, I guess.
I will say that for me, my faith AND my religion have been very positive. But I belong to a very liberal denomination that encourages me to ask questions and answer them myself.
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| -ALTERNET - Sam Harris: Why Religion Must End |
Synnical |
May-16-06 10:31 PM |
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I think that "faith" (or spiritualism) may be wired into our brains |
Harvey Korman |
May-16-06 10:36 PM |
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Not in MY brain.... |
PassingFair |
May-16-06 11:13 PM |
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Neither |
TallahasseeGrannie |
May-17-06 10:41 AM |
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This is your brain on God |
BuffyTheFundieSlayer |
May-16-06 11:54 PM |
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Nothing wrong with a bit of chemical intervention now and then! |
TallahasseeGrannie |
May-17-06 10:42 AM |
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LOL - I really enjoy your posts TG |
papau |
May-17-06 04:27 PM |
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Well |
TallahasseeGrannie |
May-17-06 04:36 PM |
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I am coming around to your view - but I doubt I will ever have the wit |
papau |
May-17-06 08:15 PM |
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Indeed |
BuffyTheFundieSlayer |
May-17-06 10:46 PM |
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If we really "relied on standards of reasonable and evidence" |
Inland |
May-16-06 10:39 PM |
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Cure for everything? Didn't see that in his words |
Synnical |
May-16-06 10:45 PM |
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Well, we rely on standards of reason and evidence in all other areas. |
Inland |
May-16-06 10:48 PM |
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Name removed |
May-16-06 10:53 PM |
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He does come across as having all the answers. |
TallahasseeGrannie |
May-17-06 10:43 AM |
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Atheists have done some bad things, too, maybe THEY need some |
CAG |
May-16-06 10:39 PM |
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Stop that now |
Synnical |
May-16-06 10:41 PM |
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So? Harris's thesis is that eliminating religion |
Inland |
May-16-06 10:44 PM |
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They simply replaced religion |
Mythsaje |
May-16-06 10:47 PM |
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That's not Harris's thesis. |
Inland |
May-16-06 10:57 PM |
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Close, but no cigar |
Goblinmonger |
May-17-06 09:34 AM |
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I'm not sure he is correct |
TallahasseeGrannie |
May-17-06 10:48 AM |
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And that is what would happen |
TallahasseeGrannie |
May-17-06 10:46 AM |
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Can you say Straw Man? |
Synnical |
May-16-06 10:48 PM |
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Yeah, stop that thinking now |
manic expression |
May-16-06 10:47 PM |
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Science creates atomic bombs |
InaneAnanity |
May-16-06 10:57 PM |
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I can't see the difference between the two |
TallahasseeGrannie |
May-17-06 10:50 AM |
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Flawed reasoning |
InaneAnanity |
May-17-06 03:30 PM |
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Yes |
TallahasseeGrannie |
May-17-06 04:34 PM |
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By not speaking out against misuse it is condoned |
goddess40 |
May-17-06 08:01 AM |
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I disagree |
TallahasseeGrannie |
May-17-06 10:55 AM |
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The invasion of Tibet, |
bigmonkey |
May-16-06 10:49 PM |
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What is the metaphysical assertion about reality made by atheists? |
trotsky |
May-17-06 08:17 AM |
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Is it Jesus Christs fault that people have "used" religion for evil? |
CAG |
May-16-06 10:58 PM |
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Because |
InaneAnanity |
May-16-06 11:09 PM |
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it's not like Harris didn't think of this |
Bill McBlueState |
May-17-06 08:38 AM |
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"communism was little more than a political religion" |
bloom |
May-17-06 09:25 PM |
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I don't see how you get from a critique of communism |
Bill McBlueState |
May-18-06 08:41 AM |
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I don't think that Sam Harris makes any sense. |
bloom |
May-18-06 01:12 PM |
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Let's not go there. It is a giant circle of mess. |
TallahasseeGrannie |
May-17-06 10:45 AM |
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We can no more eliminate religion than we can eliminate government or |
Ron_Green |
May-16-06 11:59 PM |
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It's the AGENTS of religion that are the problem both the wingnuts and the |
noahmijo |
May-17-06 01:13 AM |
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I have never heard hate spread |
TallahasseeGrannie |
May-17-06 11:04 AM |
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Good for your place of worship can't say the same for many others |
noahmijo |
May-17-06 02:37 PM |
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How many have you been to? What's the experience you |
JerseygirlCT |
May-17-06 05:16 PM |
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Yup, me too. And not quietly! nt |
JerseygirlCT |
May-17-06 05:14 PM |
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It's the AGENTS of religion that are the problem both the wingnuts and the |
noahmijo |
May-17-06 01:13 AM |
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Excellent interview. |
ozone_man |
May-17-06 09:10 AM |
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Then all that would be left is actually practicing |
Inland |
May-17-06 10:24 AM |
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How does he not fit the bill? |
Goblinmonger |
May-17-06 11:14 AM |
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He misses the very simple point that I've made here time and time |
Ron_Green |
May-17-06 02:55 PM |
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But Harris seems to be saying |
Goblinmonger |
May-17-06 03:08 PM |
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Exactly. And I agree that questioning is the essence of what we should do |
Ron_Green |
May-17-06 07:08 PM |
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"Should" do WHAT? |
trotsky |
May-17-06 09:19 PM |
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No, they're not all scary. |
Ron_Green |
May-18-06 01:09 AM |
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You may claim to see shades of gray, |
trotsky |
May-18-06 07:19 AM |
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If you read my previous post to you, you'll see that I said mentioned the |
Ron_Green |
May-18-06 09:02 AM |
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I don't think your critical parent / nurturing parent analogy is valid. |
trotsky |
May-18-06 09:11 AM |
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You're acting as if you're dense. |
Ron_Green |
May-18-06 11:02 AM |
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Dense as a brick of lead, apparently. |
trotsky |
May-18-06 11:13 AM |
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You're using the word "religion" in a more narrow way than I am. |
Ron_Green |
May-18-06 12:01 PM |
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It would be better said that you have redefined religion. |
trotsky |
May-18-06 12:27 PM |
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Your second point first: |
Ron_Green |
May-18-06 12:56 PM |
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SOME churches. |
trotsky |
May-18-06 01:00 PM |
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Waah! I want my 3-part theory! |
Ron_Green |
May-18-06 01:11 PM |
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Stand and practice at the same time. |
ozone_man |
May-17-06 02:39 PM |
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Life is a bowl of cherries |
TallahasseeGrannie |
May-17-06 11:06 AM |
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My cherries grow on the tree of reason. |
ozone_man |
May-17-06 02:50 PM |
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My tree is a hybrid |
TallahasseeGrannie |
May-17-06 04:31 PM |
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LOL, mine, too. |
kwassa |
May-18-06 09:29 AM |
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The graft of reason branches |
ozone_man |
May-18-06 10:08 AM |
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There were a lot of sour cherries |
TallahasseeGrannie |
May-18-06 11:26 AM |
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That's a real big windmill he is tilting at there |
TallahasseeGrannie |
May-17-06 10:40 AM |
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Thanks, T-G. Well said. nt |
JerseygirlCT |
May-17-06 05:12 PM |
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As an advocate of anti-religion, I find myself agreeing with you, |
Proud_Democratt |
May-17-06 08:07 PM |
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Well, as to that, truly |
JerseygirlCT |
May-18-06 09:17 AM |
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I agree with you 100% |
TallahasseeGrannie |
May-18-06 09:24 AM |
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Oh, right, Sam Harris, people are rational... is that a joke? |
hunter |
May-17-06 12:02 PM |
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More than one evil in the world. |
ozone_man |
May-17-06 03:02 PM |
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Uh oh, are you advocating "deep ecology" as (gasp!) religion??? |
hunter |
May-17-06 08:35 PM |
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No, deep ecology as science. |
ozone_man |
May-18-06 10:01 AM |
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I'm scientific now. For a time I was religious. |
hunter |
May-18-06 12:42 PM |
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Here we go again. |
JerseygirlCT |
May-17-06 05:11 PM |
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Theres no such things as evangelical atheists |
Evoman |
May-18-06 01:14 AM |
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My point is that I often see atheists here trying to tear |
JerseygirlCT |
May-18-06 09:14 AM |
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All of the atheists here are live and let live! |
Evoman |
May-18-06 03:10 PM |
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Maybe not in those exact words |
JerseygirlCT |
May-18-06 04:34 PM |
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It fits one of the "evangelical" definitions |
kwassa |
May-18-06 09:33 AM |
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And I'll happily cop to being an evangelical liberal! nt |
JerseygirlCT |
May-18-06 09:40 AM |
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What is wrong with people having their... |
MrWiggles |
May-18-06 04:22 PM |
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I agree with you. nt |
JerseygirlCT |
May-18-06 08:19 PM |
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