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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 02:40 PM
Response to Reply #139
158. It IS insane to think humans were literally created from clay.
It IS insane to think men have one less rib than women.

It IS insane to think the earth is thousands, and not millions, of years old.

Why? Because there is undeniable, uncontestable evidence that none of those things are true, and indeed are counterfactual.

Is it not NUTS to deny reality in favor of myth when reality stares you in the face - like a literalist counting a male skeleton's ribs and, despite the fact that there are the same number in both sexes, insisting that they must be miscounting, or that the skeleton must have somehow been 'rigged'?

If you're saying we should respect nonsense like that, sorry, never going to happen. IMHO it's INSANE to be a biblical literalist.

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  -Why do you participate in the Religion/Theology forum? Heaven and Earth  Apr-03-06 01:58 PM   #0 
  - There are always interesting people on the DU boards, and most of  Old Crusoe   Apr-03-06 02:06 PM   #1 
  - True, and I enjoy that as well.  Heaven and Earth   Apr-03-06 02:12 PM   #2 
     - Well, the interesting people are as likely to wander in to that board  Old Crusoe   Apr-03-06 02:13 PM   #3 
  - I'm Here To Convert Believers Into Atheists.  arwalden   Apr-03-06 02:17 PM   #4 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-03-06 02:27 PM   #7 
  - Ooph! Heh. Heh-heh! --- BWA-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha!  arwalden   Apr-03-06 02:40 PM   #11 
  - Perspective. N/T  varkam   Apr-03-06 10:42 PM   #80 
     - I'll Say! -- It's Quite A Skewed, Myopic And Chauvinistic One...  arwalden   Apr-04-06 09:59 AM   #95 
  - If you can't engage in a discussion of your beliefs  Goblinmonger   Apr-03-06 02:45 PM   #14 
  - Why does demanding respect mean I feel threaten? I agree with you  papau   Apr-03-06 02:48 PM   #17 
  - This is not the forum for "demanding" anything  TechBear_Seattle   Apr-03-06 02:55 PM   #22 
  - For Some Folks Of A More Sensitive And Delicate Nature......  arwalden   Apr-03-06 02:56 PM   #23 
  - Whatever  Goblinmonger   Apr-03-06 03:04 PM   #27 
     - "Double Your Standards, Double Your Fun"  arwalden   Apr-03-06 03:15 PM   #29 
     - Next time this comes up, try...  TechBear_Seattle   Apr-03-06 03:18 PM   #32 
  - I'm afraid I think you're demonstrably wrong.  Donald Ian Rankin   Apr-07-06 12:09 PM   #118 
  - You couldn't be more wrong. NONE of those threads mock religion.  beam me up scottie   Apr-07-06 06:36 PM   #120 
     - No, I'm afraid we couldn't.  Donald Ian Rankin   Apr-08-06 07:38 AM   #122 
        - ROFLMAO! Google "mocking" and click on the definition link on the right.  beam me up scottie   Apr-08-06 08:52 PM   #128 
           - Careful BMUS  salvorhardin   Apr-08-06 09:06 PM   #131 
           - BWAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA !!!  beam me up scottie   Apr-08-06 09:29 PM   #132 
           - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-08-06 09:41 PM   #133 
              - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-08-06 10:18 PM   #134 
  - Then what is the purpose of the Atheist/Agnostic forum?  arnheim   Jul-30-06 05:23 PM   #167 
     - That's a group, arnheim. This is a forum.  beam me up scottie   Jul-30-06 05:34 PM   #168 
        - I understand what you are saying (group vs. forum)  arnheim   Jul-30-06 05:52 PM   #169 
           - Sure, point out the insults, I'll alert on them and they'll be deleted.  beam me up scottie   Jul-30-06 05:57 PM   #170 
              - I am my beliefs  arnheim   Jul-30-06 06:13 PM   #171 
                 - I understand that.  beam me up scottie   Jul-30-06 06:24 PM   #172 
                    - I seem to be sticking my foot in my mouth tonight  arnheim   Jul-30-06 06:51 PM   #173 
                       - Don't worry about it. Ask T.Grannie how she stays so cool in here.  beam me up scottie   Jul-30-06 07:15 PM   #174 
  - OH THE IRONY  Evoman   Apr-03-06 03:14 PM   #28 
     - Is It "Disrespectful" To Point Out Irony?  arwalden   Apr-03-06 03:17 PM   #30 
     - I think  Goblinmonger   Apr-03-06 03:20 PM   #33 
        - Those are the Bush model, right?  TechBear_Seattle   Apr-03-06 03:29 PM   #36 
           - Those are the ones.  Goblinmonger   Apr-03-06 03:33 PM   #39 
  - I'm here to brawl.  hunter   Apr-03-06 07:11 PM   #67 
  - A bunch of things.  igil   Apr-03-06 02:22 PM   #5 
  - Very well put  Zebedeo   Apr-03-06 07:58 PM   #69 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-03-06 02:24 PM   #6 
  - A-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha!  arwalden   Apr-03-06 02:34 PM   #9 
  - Hell, I'd just be content if y'all would stop calling my atheism  NCevilDUer   Apr-03-06 02:36 PM   #10 
  - Atheism is a religion like bald is a hair color.  China_cat   Apr-03-06 02:47 PM   #15 
  - I like that!  NCevilDUer   Apr-03-06 02:50 PM   #18 
  - Don't mind it at all  China_cat   Apr-03-06 02:54 PM   #21 
  - There are many more such witty sayings on the many atheists sites on the  papau   Apr-03-06 02:54 PM   #20 
  - Ah-HA! --- Here's Another Example, My "Friend".  arwalden   Apr-03-06 04:15 PM   #52 
  - As the atheist always says - I am only telling the truth as I see it.  papau   Apr-03-06 04:20 PM   #56 
     - Really? That's Interesting. -- Which Atheist Always Says That?  arwalden   Apr-03-06 04:34 PM   #63 
     - Wow, that didn't take long...  SidDithers   Apr-04-06 11:43 AM   #97 
  - You know, it's not necessary to keep battling over the vocabulary.  Inland   Apr-03-06 11:02 PM   #88 
  - There are some atheists who take a theological stand...  TechBear_Seattle   Apr-03-06 03:27 PM   #35 
     - The fundi "stand" is not a theological stand - but it sure looks like the  papau   Apr-03-06 04:23 PM   #57 
        - ~  arwalden   Apr-03-06 04:38 PM   #64 
           - :-)  papau   Apr-03-06 09:27 PM   #74 
              - She said that? Amazing! Must be ESP. (If I believed such a thing existed)  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Apr-13-06 12:04 PM   #160 
  - Don't hold your breath  Goblinmonger   Apr-03-06 02:48 PM   #16 
     - Well, here I am a week late  TallahasseeGrannie   Apr-08-06 12:07 PM   #126 
  - I'm so sorry I am not pleasant enough  salvorhardin   Apr-03-06 02:42 PM   #12 
  - ~  arwalden   Apr-03-06 02:44 PM   #13 
  - Washing his feet, not kissing them would be the christian thing to do.  notadmblnd   Apr-03-06 03:17 PM   #31 
     - I know  salvorhardin   Apr-03-06 03:33 PM   #38 
  - And the theists "You're stupid / must convert or burn in Hell" posts?  TechBear_Seattle   Apr-03-06 03:00 PM   #26 
  - I think I sometimes offer bits of information  muriel_volestrangler   Apr-03-06 02:33 PM   #8 
  - cheer up some American atheists? - A good cause for sure - but R/T is  papau   Apr-03-06 02:50 PM   #19 
     - It's eminently well named  muriel_volestrangler   Apr-03-06 02:57 PM   #24 
        - "AND THEIR PLACE IN SOCIETY" - is all that ever discussed  papau   Apr-03-06 03:39 PM   #40 
           - Discussions topics are held threads  arwalden   Apr-03-06 03:54 PM   #44 
           - can't argue with that - you do mocking quite well - any other skills?  papau   Apr-03-06 04:09 PM   #50 
              - Many More Skills. But You'd Whine About Those Too.  arwalden   Apr-03-06 04:17 PM   #54 
           - You'd expect most threads to have some relation to society  muriel_volestrangler   Apr-03-06 04:32 PM   #62 
  - Specifically because moderation here is more... well, liberal  TechBear_Seattle   Apr-03-06 02:59 PM   #25 
  - Honestly?  Evoman   Apr-03-06 03:24 PM   #34 
  - I'm with you  Goblinmonger   Apr-03-06 03:32 PM   #37 
  - Could there be topics in Religion beyond the atheist "no way" assertion?  papau   Apr-03-06 03:44 PM   #41 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-03-06 03:48 PM   #42 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-03-06 03:53 PM   #43 
           - Too Much CODE TALK!! -- Why Not Just Say What You Really Feel?  arwalden   Apr-03-06 03:59 PM   #45 
           - Atheists are traitors and terrorists  TechBear_Seattle   Apr-03-06 04:00 PM   #46 
           - "I don't know that atheists should be considered as citizens..."  arwalden   Apr-03-06 04:02 PM   #47 
              - that's the other party - take up your complaint with them- and try to keep  papau   Apr-03-06 04:07 PM   #49 
                 - Friends Don't Let Friends Call Atheism A Religion.  arwalden   Apr-03-06 04:12 PM   #51 
                    - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-03-06 04:17 PM   #53 
                       - You Post Insulting Messages Like That...  arwalden   Apr-03-06 04:24 PM   #58 
           - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Apr-03-06 04:05 PM   #48 
           - State your arguement or go cry  Evoman   Apr-03-06 04:24 PM   #60 
           - Oh. would that you could argue well and not just regurgitate the last few  papau   Apr-03-06 09:34 PM   #75 
              - HAHAHAHAHAHAHA  Evoman   Apr-03-06 10:31 PM   #78 
                 - You really need to expand your reading list.if you think that  papau   Apr-03-06 10:36 PM   #79 
                    - Lol..like I'm some kind of unread moron, right?  Evoman   Apr-03-06 10:46 PM   #82 
                       - Retention of data is as important as the reading - the percentage of  papau   Apr-04-06 07:38 AM   #94 
                          - Oh?  Evoman   Apr-04-06 10:18 AM   #96 
                             - We had threads on Scientists and God and I posted 12 studies including  papau   Apr-04-06 12:11 PM   #99 
                                - THANK YOU for the good post.  Evoman   Apr-04-06 08:59 PM   #108 
                                   - I call BS  Zebedeo   Jul-18-06 02:09 PM   #165 
           - You Make It Sound So.... Dirty!  arwalden   Apr-05-06 07:44 AM   #112 
  - Mainly to confront the fundie/literalists right here on DU.  trotsky   Apr-03-06 04:20 PM   #55 
  - Nicely put - and a very honorable reason - wish it were more  papau   Apr-03-06 04:25 PM   #61 
     - Sounds like  Goblinmonger   Apr-03-06 04:50 PM   #66 
        - I agree the DU atheist goal is to get all other religions off the playing  papau   Apr-03-06 08:55 PM   #72 
           - OMG! What on EARTH are you talking about?  arwalden   Apr-03-06 10:00 PM   #76 
           - Drowning out other voices/. look at me look at me posting/ victory  papau   Apr-03-06 10:28 PM   #77 
              - Uh... Yeah. Whatever, Dude. You're Still Not Making Sense To Me.  arwalden   Apr-03-06 10:48 PM   #84 
              - Lol  Evoman   Apr-03-06 11:01 PM   #87 
              - You SHOULD laugh - it's hilarious for him to bitch about alleged c&p...  Zhade   Apr-06-06 02:43 PM   #117 
              - Okay, atheists/ agnostics/ nontraditional theists.  WritingIsMyReligion   Apr-08-06 10:10 AM   #124 
                 - Nah.  beam me up scottie   Apr-08-06 08:58 PM   #129 
           - Seriously, man  Goblinmonger   Apr-03-06 10:47 PM   #83 
  - To teach, and to learn.  catbert836   Apr-03-06 04:24 PM   #59 
  - I continue to find that  OhioBlues   Apr-03-06 04:50 PM   #65 
  - We are all human beings with different experiences and different beliefs.  believerinchrist   Apr-03-06 07:36 PM   #68 
  - It is what many have said here  Goblinmonger   Apr-03-06 08:08 PM   #70 
  - Hey, Goblinmonger--  believerinchrist   Apr-03-06 08:35 PM   #71 
  - "spouting nonsense and hatred toward theists" - LOL - the words we  papau   Apr-03-06 09:15 PM   #73 
  - Now that's a little bit of the old papau I can respect  Goblinmonger   Apr-03-06 10:58 PM   #86 
  - I'm not here to help you get over anything  salvorhardin   Apr-03-06 11:24 PM   #90 
  - This said it had 2 responses . . . oops . . . anyway, here's an invitation  mistertrickster   Jul-13-06 09:17 PM   #162 
  - I'm a masochist  kwassa   Apr-03-06 10:43 PM   #81 
  - Among other things.  arwalden   Apr-03-06 10:50 PM   #85 
  - No need to get snippy  Evoman   Apr-03-06 11:07 PM   #89 
  - Part of the charm of this place....  Desertrose   Apr-04-06 12:42 PM   #101 
     - Well... It's Either That...  arwalden   Apr-04-06 01:19 PM   #102 
  - I enjoy debate  BuffyTheFundieSlayer   Apr-04-06 12:34 AM   #91 
  - Monty Python Argument Clinic  FM Arouet666   Apr-04-06 02:48 AM   #92 
  - I don't come here often.  Behind the Aegis   Apr-04-06 04:53 AM   #93 
  - This is the best forum for "people watching"  thinkingwoman   Apr-04-06 11:56 AM   #98 
  - Bingo! Ya got that right.  Desertrose   Apr-04-06 12:40 PM   #100 
  - Well, groups are where you go to talk to the people who agree with you.  Strong Atheist   Apr-04-06 01:59 PM   #103 
  - I'm an R/T'er because I love to talk religion.  WritingIsMyReligion   Apr-04-06 03:08 PM   #104 
  - I'm with you  salvorhardin   Apr-04-06 08:57 PM   #106 
  - I come here to whine about atheists to atheists in atheist threads.  beam me up scottie   Apr-04-06 07:22 PM   #105 
  - Right  salvorhardin   Apr-04-06 08:59 PM   #107 
  - Those stupid athiests.  WritingIsMyReligion   Apr-04-06 10:09 PM   #109 
  - Yep.  beam me up scottie   Apr-04-06 10:17 PM   #110 
  - Yes  BuffyTheFundieSlayer   Apr-05-06 12:01 AM   #111 
  - It was a "MAJORITY" one time....  Proud_Democratt   Apr-12-06 05:06 PM   #159 
  - "I come here to annoy..." ROFLMAO!  Strong Atheist   Apr-05-06 08:32 AM   #113 
  - I think this is a great forum!  HopeLives   Apr-05-06 01:11 PM   #114 
  - I hope you have a good journey  Goblinmonger   Apr-05-06 01:29 PM   #115 
  - Why? Because knowledge is my 'religion'.  Zhade   Apr-05-06 09:52 PM   #116 
  - Because I know that all atheists have  TallahasseeGrannie   Apr-07-06 01:42 PM   #119 
  - Hi T.Grannie!  beam me up scottie   Apr-07-06 06:37 PM   #121 
     - Hi, BMUS  TallahasseeGrannie   Apr-08-06 11:56 AM   #125 
        - Since we don't have any more tornadoes in the forecast,  beam me up scottie   Apr-08-06 08:59 PM   #130 
           - I'm in denial about hurricanes this year  TallahasseeGrannie   Apr-09-06 04:40 PM   #135 
              - I don't blame you.  beam me up scottie   Apr-09-06 07:53 PM   #136 
  - I enjoy arguing  Donald Ian Rankin   Apr-08-06 08:59 AM   #123 
  - I laughed when I read this.  kwassa   Apr-08-06 02:03 PM   #127 
  - It's 2:20 a.m. and nothing is on TV except "paid programming."  Blue in Portland   Apr-10-06 04:25 AM   #137 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-10-06 09:44 AM   #138 
  - this tolerant and open-minded attitude  kwassa   Apr-10-06 10:22 AM   #139 
     - I will agree that  Goblinmonger   Apr-10-06 10:31 AM   #140 
     - I think that this point is incorrect  kwassa   Apr-10-06 11:00 AM   #142 
     - Let me see if I can explain  Goblinmonger   Apr-10-06 11:25 AM   #143 
     - I think the entire Bible is inspired by the contemplation of God  kwassa   Apr-10-06 11:38 AM   #144 
     - But don't you think  Goblinmonger   Apr-10-06 12:19 PM   #146 
     - I can give several examples  Brentos   Apr-10-06 12:20 PM   #147 
        - Round and round and round  Goblinmonger   Apr-10-06 12:29 PM   #148 
        - You are right  Brentos   Apr-10-06 09:48 PM   #155 
           - Brentos,  beam me up scottie   Apr-10-06 10:31 PM   #156 
           - What BMUS said.  Goblinmonger   Apr-11-06 10:43 AM   #157 
        - WHEW! That was painful!  rd_kent   Apr-10-06 01:23 PM   #151 
     - "for a variety of reasons"  trotsky   Apr-10-06 11:38 AM   #145 
     - But THAT is the hypocrisy!!!  rd_kent   Apr-10-06 01:19 PM   #150 
     - I agree  rd_kent   Apr-10-06 01:16 PM   #149 
        - I agree with you 100%  Goblinmonger   Apr-10-06 01:24 PM   #152 
     - Considering the "tolerant and open-minded attitude"  trotsky   Apr-10-06 10:46 AM   #141 
     - Yes, You're Right. -- Here's Another One For You...  arwalden   Apr-10-06 02:52 PM   #153 
     - It IS insane to think humans were literally created from clay.  Zhade   Apr-12-06 02:40 PM   #158 
  - Observation  Proud_Democratt   Apr-10-06 05:54 PM   #154 
  - Yes, I've learned something.  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Apr-13-06 12:09 PM   #161 
  - Occasionally I Read Something Interesting  Southpawkicker   Jul-13-06 09:36 PM   #163 
  - Because religion is interesting to everyone from the ardent atheist to  nealmhughes   Jul-18-06 07:56 AM   #164 
  - Because I've got nowhere else to go!  varkam   Jul-18-06 03:33 PM   #166 
  - Because I enjoy it  InaneAnanity   Jul-30-06 08:28 PM   #175 
  - Hi there H & E, sorry that your thread turned to flame. Why am I here?  Random_Australian   Jul-30-06 10:34 PM   #176 
  - I like reading the flame wars  MrWiggles   Aug-01-06 05:18 PM   #177 
 

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