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WhollyHeretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-02-06 11:42 PM
Response to Reply #121
123. There are religious groups as well as an atheists and agnostics group
this however is not a group for believers but a discussion forum
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  -Why I don't like being told I have a belief system Goblinmonger  Mar-28-06 04:12 PM   #0 
  - The fallacy in your argument is that the football non-fan...  SteppingRazor   Mar-28-06 04:16 PM   #1 
  - Good point  Goblinmonger   Mar-28-06 04:18 PM   #2 
  - If you have "an ABSENCE of belief in god..."  dchill   Mar-28-06 04:21 PM   #3 
  - To truly believe in God demands proof in our lives..  believerinchrist   Mar-28-06 04:27 PM   #5 
  - Your definition of atheist and agnostic confuse me  sybylla   Mar-28-06 05:10 PM   #10 
  - Here's the problem I have with the atheist def.  Goblinmonger   Mar-28-06 07:05 PM   #21 
  - I have have problems with how the words have been construed  sybylla   Mar-28-06 08:42 PM   #35 
     - I'm with you  Goblinmonger   Mar-29-06 06:34 AM   #60 
  - They are not my definitions.  dchill   Mar-28-06 10:41 PM   #47 
  - The founder of Websters was a raging fundy himself......  A HERETIC I AM   Mar-29-06 01:06 AM   #53 
     - Good analogy  Goblinmonger   Mar-29-06 06:35 AM   #61 
  - I don't consider myself an agnostic  Goblinmonger   Mar-28-06 07:03 PM   #20 
  - If belief is not a choice, what is?  dchill   Mar-28-06 09:46 PM   #39 
     - Anything is not possible  Goblinmonger   Mar-29-06 06:37 AM   #62 
     - You're blurring the difference between "believing" and "accepting"  Orrex   Mar-29-06 09:25 AM   #69 
     - This is an old problem that never seems to get addressed.  WakingLife   Apr-03-06 09:19 PM   #157 
  - I respectfully disagree  Orrex   Mar-28-06 09:16 PM   #38 
     - That is also the original and MY definition of atheism.  beam me up scottie   Mar-28-06 09:54 PM   #40 
     - I still think I'm right...  dchill   Mar-28-06 10:01 PM   #43 
     - Disbelief is not a positive claim  BuffyTheFundieSlayer   Mar-29-06 12:34 AM   #49 
        - A fine post, though "Weak" and "Strong" have always bothered me as labels!  Orrex   Mar-29-06 09:08 AM   #66 
           - "I have to waste time explaining..."  dchill   Mar-29-06 04:41 PM   #74 
           - ......  BuffyTheFundieSlayer   Mar-30-06 01:06 AM   #79 
              - Well, that IS a problem...  dchill   Mar-30-06 02:14 AM   #81 
           - I'm not thrilled with the labels either  BuffyTheFundieSlayer   Mar-30-06 01:10 AM   #80 
           - "Agnostic atheist" vs. "Gnostic atheist" would be more proper.  IMModerate   Apr-03-06 11:16 AM   #156 
     - Okay, I'm getting on the same page  TallahasseeGrannie   Mar-29-06 06:10 PM   #75 
        - I'll have a stab at it, Grannie...  opiate69   Mar-29-06 07:34 PM   #78 
  - But the Vikings are a real team,  believerinchrist   Mar-28-06 04:24 PM   #4 
  - Yeah  Goblinmonger   Mar-28-06 07:07 PM   #22 
     - I get it..  believerinchrist   Mar-28-06 07:14 PM   #28 
        - Not ignoring you  Goblinmonger   Mar-28-06 07:55 PM   #33 
  - Excellent Post!  arwalden   Mar-28-06 04:43 PM   #6 
  - I hope you don't consider me a bigot.  believerinchrist   Mar-28-06 04:56 PM   #7 
  - I Do Not Consider You To Be An Anti-Atheist Bigot...  arwalden   Mar-28-06 05:06 PM   #8 
  - I'm just curious,  believerinchrist   Mar-28-06 06:50 PM   #17 
     - Would YOU Ignore Someone Who Used Their Scriptures...  arwalden   Mar-28-06 08:51 PM   #37 
        - I apologize--I was just looking at the belief system...  believerinchrist   Mar-28-06 09:57 PM   #42 
  - Hey, welcome to DU!  Orrex   Mar-29-06 09:08 AM   #67 
  - Thanks for the support  Goblinmonger   Mar-28-06 07:08 PM   #23 
  - Good Idea... I'd Enjoy That.  arwalden   Mar-29-06 09:11 AM   #68 
     - I'll keep that in mind  Goblinmonger   Mar-29-06 09:27 AM   #70 
  - Well, I think atheists have belief systems  TallahasseeGrannie   Mar-29-06 06:17 PM   #76 
     - Not so --  Eileen   Mar-30-06 02:48 PM   #83 
     - Not so --  Eileen   Mar-30-06 02:49 PM   #84 
  - You may not have a "belief system," but...  TreasonousBastard   Mar-28-06 05:10 PM   #9 
  - Has he actually made such a claim?  arwalden   Mar-28-06 05:39 PM   #11 
  - Why does religion interest you, if you have no belief?  kwassa   Mar-28-06 06:26 PM   #15 
  - Actually...  arwalden   Mar-28-06 06:37 PM   #16 
     - So, would it be accurate to describe it as paranoia about religious  kwassa   Mar-28-06 06:58 PM   #19 
        - Dude, seriously  Goblinmonger   Mar-28-06 07:12 PM   #25 
        - Um, the question was addressed to arwalden, why do you answer?  kwassa   Mar-28-06 07:29 PM   #29 
           - OK  Goblinmonger   Mar-28-06 07:48 PM   #32 
        - Oh Good Grief... Grow Up!  arwalden   Mar-28-06 08:30 PM   #34 
  - The question was halfway rhetorical...  TreasonousBastard   Mar-28-06 09:56 PM   #41 
  - being a non-believer in a believer's world is like  sybylla   Mar-28-06 05:58 PM   #13 
  - Nice analogy  Goblinmonger   Mar-28-06 07:13 PM   #26 
  - As I mentioned elsewhere-- you do have...  TreasonousBastard   Mar-28-06 10:16 PM   #45 
  - I have a masters in communication  Goblinmonger   Mar-28-06 07:10 PM   #24 
  - As I said in #41...  TreasonousBastard   Mar-28-06 10:09 PM   #44 
     - Let me clarify  Goblinmonger   Mar-29-06 06:41 AM   #63 
  - Religion has a major impact on life in America  BuffyTheFundieSlayer   Mar-29-06 12:53 AM   #51 
  - I agree...  TreasonousBastard   Mar-29-06 02:06 AM   #56 
     - Very true  BuffyTheFundieSlayer   Mar-29-06 02:10 AM   #57 
  - I can understand the interest in defining one's beliefs  TallahasseeGrannie   Mar-29-06 06:34 PM   #77 
  - Though the analogy is a smidge flawed, I appreciate it  sybylla   Mar-28-06 05:51 PM   #12 
  - Thanks  Goblinmonger   Mar-28-06 07:14 PM   #27 
     - Truthfully, no criticism was intended  sybylla   Mar-28-06 08:48 PM   #36 
  - Non-theist - not atheist.  Eileen   Mar-28-06 06:21 PM   #14 
  - One giant flaw in your argument, among others  kwassa   Mar-28-06 06:56 PM   #18 
  - No flaw -  Eileen   Mar-28-06 10:37 PM   #46 
     - Incorrect  Frangible   Mar-29-06 01:12 AM   #54 
        - Faith in what?  beam me up scottie   Mar-29-06 01:26 AM   #55 
        - There is no such thing as absence of thought  salvorhardin   Mar-29-06 02:23 AM   #58 
        - I think what he means is absence of conscious thought.  WritingIsMyReligion   Apr-01-06 08:54 AM   #92 
        - A semantic quibble  Goblinmonger   Mar-29-06 08:58 AM   #64 
        - Gobblydegook.  Eileen   Mar-29-06 01:33 PM   #72 
           - ooh, I'm all excited  Goblinmonger   Mar-29-06 02:03 PM   #73 
  - "we invent answers and demand others accept them"  dchill   Mar-28-06 11:05 PM   #48 
  - Welcome to D.U.!  Strong Atheist   Mar-29-06 06:06 AM   #59 
  - Welcome to DU, Eileen  TallahasseeGrannie   Mar-30-06 07:31 AM   #82 
  - Unfortunate!  Eileen   Mar-30-06 03:13 PM   #85 
     - You obviously have a lot of anger regarding this  TallahasseeGrannie   Mar-31-06 08:13 AM   #86 
        - That old fallback of the theistic aoplogist -  Eileen   Mar-31-06 01:47 PM   #88 
  - Nice post, but this part has always amused me  Zebedeo   Mar-31-06 08:39 PM   #89 
     - A matter of paradigms  Eileen   Mar-31-06 09:34 PM   #90 
        - You put in in context all right  Zebedeo   Mar-31-06 10:56 PM   #91 
           - That old "primo genitor" garbage again.  Eileen   Apr-01-06 03:27 PM   #93 
              - "Before the singularity"  Zebedeo   Apr-01-06 05:18 PM   #94 
                 - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-01-06 06:01 PM   #95 
                    - Your own words are  Zebedeo   Apr-01-06 06:30 PM   #96 
                       - Those words appear as PART OF A SENTENCE!!!!!  Eileen   Apr-01-06 06:53 PM   #97 
  - To reply to your OP  kwassa   Mar-28-06 07:35 PM   #30 
  - So  Goblinmonger   Mar-28-06 07:47 PM   #31 
  - Thanks for the answer.  kwassa   Mar-29-06 12:21 PM   #71 
  - You wrote:  TallahasseeGrannie   Mar-31-06 12:52 PM   #87 
  - Why do you spend so much time telling us we don't know how to  beam me up scottie   Mar-29-06 12:38 AM   #50 
  - It appears to me  Goblinmonger   Mar-29-06 09:01 AM   #65 
  - Maybe because so many people keep contradicting us  BuffyTheFundieSlayer   Mar-29-06 12:57 AM   #52 
  - Define Fairy tale and religion.  The Straight Story   Apr-02-06 10:34 PM   #98 
     - So when an atheist speaks it's to "spread their belief of non-belief"?  beam me up scottie   Apr-02-06 10:39 PM   #99 
        - Which stage?  The Straight Story   Apr-02-06 10:48 PM   #100 
        - That's the only thing you got out of the op?  beam me up scottie   Apr-02-06 10:52 PM   #101 
           - Was not discussing other threads.  The Straight Story   Apr-02-06 11:01 PM   #103 
              - What a crock.  beam me up scottie   Apr-02-06 11:04 PM   #104 
              - So what is the point of such threads  The Straight Story   Apr-02-06 11:19 PM   #109 
                 - If you have to ask that  beam me up scottie   Apr-02-06 11:22 PM   #112 
                    - Well that was a nice non-answer  The Straight Story   Apr-02-06 11:24 PM   #114 
                       - You come here to discuss religion and theology but atheists don't.  beam me up scottie   Apr-02-06 11:33 PM   #119 
                          - No desire for an echo chamber  The Straight Story   Apr-02-06 11:51 PM   #128 
                             - YOU jumped into THIS thread and now you're whining it's offensive?  beam me up scottie   Apr-02-06 11:56 PM   #131 
                             - So now name calling?  The Straight Story   Apr-02-06 11:59 PM   #135 
                                - There's a lot of things you're not seeing.  beam me up scottie   Apr-03-06 12:03 AM   #137 
                             - Why Do You Hate Atheists?  arwalden   Apr-03-06 08:51 AM   #151 
              - Knock-knock-knock! -- Uh, hello! We're from the atheist, uh, church...  arwalden   Apr-02-06 11:08 PM   #106 
                 - Don't forget about atheist suicide bombers.  beam me up scottie   Apr-02-06 11:14 PM   #107 
                 - Talking in general  The Straight Story   Apr-02-06 11:21 PM   #110 
                    - Oh look. Another "atheists don't belong in here" post.  beam me up scottie   Apr-02-06 11:23 PM   #113 
                    - Oh look - there is an atheists and agnostics group  The Straight Story   Apr-02-06 11:26 PM   #115 
                       - Take it up with Skinner.  beam me up scottie   Apr-02-06 11:29 PM   #116 
                       - well, you do have your own forum...  The Straight Story   Apr-02-06 11:30 PM   #117 
                          - Do you really not know the difference between a group and a forum?  beam me up scottie   Apr-02-06 11:35 PM   #120 
                             - Why come here?  The Straight Story   Apr-02-06 11:45 PM   #124 
                                - There are groups and there are forums  GreenJ   Apr-02-06 11:49 PM   #126 
                                - So you want to discuss republican ideals and how they are better?  The Straight Story   Apr-02-06 11:56 PM   #132 
                                   - Why can't you understand the difference between groups and forums?  beam me up scottie   Apr-02-06 11:59 PM   #134 
                                      - Faith??? LOL that is a good one.  The Straight Story   Apr-03-06 12:00 AM   #136 
                                         - Ah, I found a word you understand.  beam me up scottie   Apr-03-06 12:04 AM   #138 
                                            - I am cool with that :)  The Straight Story   Apr-03-06 12:14 AM   #141 
                                            - The op did not "rip apart" anyone's faith.  beam me up scottie   Apr-03-06 12:24 AM   #143 
                                            - That's cool, and I apologize  The Straight Story   Apr-03-06 10:10 PM   #158 
                                            - I'm sorry too, for losing my temper.  beam me up scottie   Apr-04-06 07:44 PM   #159 
                                - Stop misrepresenting us.  beam me up scottie   Apr-02-06 11:54 PM   #130 
                                - Is Your Faith *THAT* Weak?  arwalden   Apr-03-06 08:54 AM   #152 
                       - You're joking right?  GreenJ   Apr-02-06 11:33 PM   #118 
                       - Dense?  The Straight Story   Apr-02-06 11:37 PM   #121 
                          - Yep, dense it is.  beam me up scottie   Apr-02-06 11:39 PM   #122 
                          - There are religious groups as well as an atheists and agnostics group  GreenJ   Apr-02-06 11:42 PM   #123 
                             - Well I can see that  The Straight Story   Apr-02-06 11:48 PM   #125 
                                - Why are you pretending atheists are trying to deconvert you?  beam me up scottie   Apr-02-06 11:50 PM   #127 
                                - I'll Choose "Paranoid DUers" For $500, Alex.  arwalden   Apr-03-06 08:32 AM   #148 
                                - So I should just ignore people trying to force religion into government?  GreenJ   Apr-02-06 11:52 PM   #129 
                                - Don't bother.  beam me up scottie   Apr-02-06 11:57 PM   #133 
                                - Gosh, did I say that, I missed it.  The Straight Story   Apr-03-06 12:07 AM   #139 
                                   - For the last time,  beam me up scottie   Apr-03-06 12:12 AM   #140 
                                   - This has definitely gotten pointless  GreenJ   Apr-03-06 12:18 AM   #142 
                                      - sigh...  beam me up scottie   Apr-03-06 12:26 AM   #144 
                                      - Yes, that... mixed with a good dose of irrational fear and paranoia.  arwalden   Apr-03-06 08:39 AM   #150 
                                   - Heh-heh-heh! -- Relax, Francis... It's NOT All About You.  arwalden   Apr-03-06 08:34 AM   #149 
                                   - Sorry I missed this last night  Goblinmonger   Apr-03-06 10:02 AM   #154 
                                - Not everyone thinks like you.  arwalden   Apr-03-06 08:27 AM   #147 
                       - Ah-HA! --- So You *ARE* Projecting!  arwalden   Apr-03-06 08:25 AM   #146 
                    - Project Much? This Happens To Be A Subject That Interests Me.  arwalden   Apr-03-06 08:12 AM   #145 
                       - I like to use the name from Will and Grace  Goblinmonger   Apr-03-06 10:04 AM   #155 
        - It's In Short Supply For SOME... But Not For Others.  arwalden   Apr-02-06 10:59 PM   #102 
           - But of course. The uppity atheists are forcing their agenda on believers.  beam me up scottie   Apr-02-06 11:06 PM   #105 
              - I Can Think Of Three Or Four Right Here At DU...  arwalden   Apr-02-06 11:19 PM   #108 
                 - Maybe we should start disrupting  beam me up scottie   Apr-02-06 11:21 PM   #111 
                    - That Would Be Dangerous... And You Know Why.  arwalden   Apr-03-06 09:12 AM   #153 
 

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