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bluerum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 01:45 PM
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13. Since we are being literal here and quoting the bible, I would
suggest a book by the biblical scholar Bart Ehrman called Misquoting Jesus.

I don't think that the use of the term flat earther is meant to directly point up discrepancies in a literal translation of the bible. The fact that the biblical documents are historically inconsistent and contradictory is easily demonstrated.

Rather, I think that the term "flat earther" is a reference to the practice of promoting a belief system that cannot be supported by logic, documentary evidence, physical evidence, or any other kind of evidence beyond a ritualized set of beliefs.
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  - Atheists call Christians "flat-earthers" - but flat earth not Biblical? papau  Mar-08-06 01:20 PM   #0 
  - All I know is that the church use to kill people for saying that the earth  IsItJustMe   Mar-08-06 01:25 PM   #1 
  - When and where and who died? - I believe fiction has become "fact"  papau   Mar-08-06 01:27 PM   #3 
  - They did kill Gallileo for saying the Earth went around the Sun  AllegroRondo   Mar-08-06 01:31 PM   #5 
     - No they didn't  China_cat   Mar-08-06 01:41 PM   #11 
     - Ha ha, pardoned in 1992. Hmmm, no one was killed? Inquisition?  bluerum   Mar-08-06 01:48 PM   #15 
     - I didn't say no one, I said Gallileo wasn't executed.  China_cat   Mar-08-06 03:05 PM   #37 
     - He didnt live long after the questioning  AllegroRondo   Mar-08-06 01:48 PM   #16 
     - But they did kill Giordano Bruno  Goblinmonger   Mar-08-06 02:02 PM   #22 
  - "Who invented the concept of a flat Earth"?  China_cat   Mar-08-06 01:27 PM   #2 
  - LOL - I've enjoyed these clowns for years - but my post above gives  papau   Mar-08-06 01:34 PM   #6 
     - The real flat earth website  China_cat   Mar-08-06 01:36 PM   #8 
  - There is nothing that you have posted that indicates  bowens43   Mar-08-06 01:29 PM   #4 
  - You are wrong - Isaiah is translated as "circle" but the word also means  papau   Mar-08-06 01:37 PM   #9 
     - Um, look again  sybylla   Mar-08-06 02:25 PM   #28 
        - Um - perhaps you looked again a bit too fast. The German word Gestalt  papau   Mar-08-06 02:44 PM   #32 
           - Yeah... that makes it much more clear.  sybylla   Mar-08-06 03:26 PM   #38 
              - I agree - context is my context/interpretation - and you must judge for  papau   Mar-08-06 04:01 PM   #41 
  - holey shite papau  sui generis   Mar-08-06 01:34 PM   #7 
  - True - I was doing atheist outreach at a UU thing and no one said that  papau   Mar-08-06 01:45 PM   #12 
  - You're right...  Brilligator   Mar-08-06 01:40 PM   #10 
  - I agree - Galileo's mistreatment may be the point - but "flat-earthers"  papau   Mar-08-06 01:47 PM   #14 
  - Since we are being literal here and quoting the bible, I would  bluerum   Mar-08-06 01:45 PM   #13 
  - That’s exactly what the term is used for  moobu2   Mar-08-06 01:53 PM   #18 
  - It really isn't that easy to PROVE "inconsistent/contradictory " of any  papau   Mar-08-06 01:54 PM   #19 
     - Well, I beg to differ. There are many biblical documents and texts  bluerum   Mar-08-06 02:00 PM   #21 
     - The article in Scientific American explains it better than I can.  papau   Mar-08-06 02:07 PM   #23 
        - And I have no time for sophistry. eom  bluerum   Mar-08-06 02:10 PM   #24 
     - Don't confuse "some truths can't be proven"  Brilligator   Mar-09-06 09:13 AM   #51 
  - You can only see so far  hobbit709   Mar-08-06 01:48 PM   #17 
  - So where on DU  Goblinmonger   Mar-08-06 01:58 PM   #20 
  - it is my pharaphrase of two posts this morning that implied that idea.  papau   Mar-08-06 02:13 PM   #26 
     - I have no problems with it here  Goblinmonger   Mar-08-06 02:25 PM   #29 
        - Message is binding - as a science text it isn't -although it is spot on  papau   Mar-08-06 02:49 PM   #33 
           - Now I don't know where you are going  Goblinmonger   Mar-08-06 03:02 PM   #36 
              - Why are there only either/or binding/not-binding fiction/non-fiction  papau   Mar-08-06 03:42 PM   #39 
                 - Here's the problem I have with it:  Goblinmonger   Mar-08-06 06:00 PM   #46 
  - The Association for Biblical Astronomy  Xeric   Mar-08-06 02:11 PM   #25 
  - Nuts are found on all sides of all topics - biblical errancy is tough to  papau   Mar-08-06 02:29 PM   #31 
  - The Bible Doesn’t say the Earth is flat,  moobu2   Mar-08-06 02:23 PM   #27 
  - Wipe that stuff off your chin please. eom  bluerum   Mar-08-06 02:27 PM   #30 
  - Why have a science class?  papau   Mar-08-06 02:51 PM   #34 
     - To teach science.  bluerum   Mar-08-06 05:02 PM   #43 
        - :-) -you must mean bible studies :-)  papau   Mar-08-06 05:17 PM   #45 
           - Who says it means the same thing.  bluerum   Mar-08-06 06:18 PM   #47 
              - it is hard to joke around in this media format - for the record I agree  papau   Mar-08-06 07:15 PM   #49 
  - I can't recall it being used in a literal sense on DU  muriel_volestrangler   Mar-08-06 02:55 PM   #35 
     - I agree-a state of mind -as in do not talk of Bible or Religion as I know  papau   Mar-08-06 03:57 PM   #40 
        - I wouldn't call it 'nuance'  muriel_volestrangler   Mar-08-06 04:49 PM   #42 
           - A "dream" that is using symbolism is not a science theory and not exactly  papau   Mar-08-06 05:14 PM   #44 
              - Sure - it just shows the belief of the writer of that verse  muriel_volestrangler   Mar-08-06 06:26 PM   #48 
                 - I agree-bad enough they use Greek Letters in the weather report-but Hebrew  papau   Mar-08-06 07:30 PM   #50 
 

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