Reply #9: Miracles by definition are not proved "right" or "wrong" -and to say they

[papau]

did not happen is to say those that were there and said it happened were liars - and of course that is your option.

Afraid there is no other way to read your "But no, thankfully, SCIENCE came through and proved them wrong." comment since it was in the middle of a dump on the Bible and how the Bible was used to justify (and inferred help perpetuate) slavery - But I am glad to see we agreed to was an absurd claim.

As to the other thoughts you now express - "But your own messiah had the chance to denounce it for all time, and did not. Instead, his compassion was reflected in making sure people knew not to beat their slaves TOO hard. At least harder than was justified." sounds like you have not read the economic slavery thought of the last 200 years. But you are correct that Jesus said little about economic systems.

AS to "And I know you are coming from a place that makes putting down atheists and freethinkers important to you. At least that's pretty clear from your posts. Unfortunately I do not share your admiration of religion." - very true.

AS to your list of miracles that were just stories told by liars - again you are allowed to be in denial - and indeed the rule on this board is that we should tolerate each others difference of opinion.

But I am interested in how you found out the Israelites did not wander in the desert for 40 years.

And so on.

:toast:

:-)