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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 04:40 AM
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52. People used to torture and kill others for these concepts.
I guess some progress has been made here.

I cannot force myself to believe in the story of Jesus as told in the Bible. It is not logical and my mind just works that way. The Sermon on the Mount is something that does make sense to me and an ideal to strive for. The teachings of Jesus are grand ideals and to strive to live in their accordance is a positive thing to do. All the rest is conjecture.
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     - exactamente!  Gato Moteado   Oct-30-05 07:17 PM   #19 
     - Maybe more so only worse, you can't spray for them. lol nt  OhioBlues   Oct-30-05 07:22 PM   #20 
     - Too bad the religious insane  DoYouEverWonder   Aug-01-06 06:23 PM   #70 
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        - Don't worry  InaneAnanity   Jul-23-06 09:44 PM   #66 
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  - I can get down with that.  Zhade   Oct-31-05 05:20 AM   #24 
  - This will sound smartass but...  Kagemusha   Oct-30-05 03:23 PM   #4 
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  - Christianity is a religion  LARED   Oct-30-05 03:31 PM   #6 
  - Mark me down for the Jesus Admiration Society!  boloboffin   Jul-18-06 03:37 PM   #56 
  - You deal with a literalist  GrpCaptMandrake   Oct-30-05 03:40 PM   #7 
  - So what about "Jews for Jesus?"  Rufus T. Firefly   Oct-30-05 03:43 PM   #8 
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  - Wow, great last line.  Zhade   Oct-31-05 05:26 AM   #25 
     - Thanks so much, Zhade.  catbert836   Oct-31-05 03:10 PM   #31 
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  - For gnostic thought  GrpCaptMandrake   Oct-31-05 11:33 AM   #30 
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     - I base my statement on my reading of Elaine Pagels  BurtWorm   Nov-01-05 11:10 AM   #41 
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  - "Christian" is a broad word  Dorian Gray   Oct-31-05 08:07 PM   #35 
  - Reading your post, I realize that you will not try to define my atheism.  Zhade   Nov-01-05 12:31 PM   #42 
     - Of course I wouldn't...  Dorian Gray   Nov-02-05 11:33 AM   #51 
  - I think you've basically got it right  JerseygirlCT   Oct-31-05 08:37 PM   #36 
  - "I've often been puzzled by the friction..."  Zhade   Nov-01-05 12:35 PM   #43 
     - I always thought so nt  JerseygirlCT   Nov-01-05 12:38 PM   #45 
  - In the Unity Church ..  Maat   Oct-31-05 11:14 PM   #37 
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  - "Jesus is a man is a statement of FACT"  Zhade   Nov-01-05 12:39 PM   #46 
  - I don't know how to reply, other than I like your stance  FM Arouet666   Nov-01-05 01:29 AM   #39 
  - Per Kwassa, there is no contact.  Zhade   Nov-01-05 12:43 PM   #47 
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  - a Christian is a follower of Christ.  garybeck   Nov-01-05 01:35 AM   #40 
  - Strong statement!  Zhade   Nov-01-05 12:44 PM   #48 
     - and I stand by it  garybeck   Nov-01-05 12:56 PM   #49 
        - People used to torture and kill others for these concepts.  Disturbed   Nov-03-05 04:40 AM   #52 
  - It would be healthy for the nation to call a convention of consideration  Old Crusoe   Jul-18-06 02:10 AM   #53 
  - That's what I like about my church  JerseygirlCT   Jul-18-06 09:24 AM   #54 
  - When I was a Christian,  ayeshahaqqiqa   Jul-18-06 01:53 PM   #55 
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  - Do you consider a person who  TallahasseeGrannie   Jul-21-06 03:49 PM   #60 
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  - Most Christians who go to church  TallahasseeGrannie   Jul-21-06 03:48 PM   #59 
  - I tend to categorize religious vs philosophical christians...  Finder   Jul-21-06 04:10 PM   #61 
  - There are a multitude of definitions of what a "Christian" is  kwassa   Jul-21-06 05:29 PM   #62 
     - Yes and no  Donald Ian Rankin   Jul-21-06 07:36 PM   #63 
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